The other night I was in a rush and I held down the power button until
it shut off. the next day I tryed turning it on and after the MB
homepage came up for 3 secs on the top left hand corner of the screen it
said "Disk boot failure, please insert boot disk and press enter" so i
fooled around with the priority settings a little bit and nothing
worked. I then inserted the windows vista CD and it would say "Loading
windows files" then the loading bar came up and it would always freeze
at the same point and after about a minute a blue screen came up saying
a problem occured and is shutting off the computer to prevent further
damage. Iv tryed everything. could my hard drive be damaged or
something? Please someone help me. I cant work with much because i cant
even get into windows! :-( All i can work with is the Setup menu


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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
[color=blue]
> The other night I was in a rush and I held down the power button until
> it shut off. the next day I tryed turning it on and after the MB
> homepage came up for 3 secs on the top left hand corner of the screen it
> said "Disk boot failure, please insert boot disk and press enter" so i
> fooled around with the priority settings a little bit and nothing
> worked. I then inserted the windows vista CD and it would say "Loading
> windows files" then the loading bar came up and it would always freeze
> at the same point and after about a minute a blue screen came up saying
> a problem occured and is shutting off the computer to prevent further
> damage. Iv tryed everything. could my hard drive be damaged or
> something? Please someone help me. I cant work with much because i cant
> even get into windows! :-( All i can work with is the Setup menu[/color]

Turning it off like that only damages the hard disk occasionally, not every
time.

I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so, try
to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.

You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I suggest.

You might be able to download a disk-test program that you could burn to a
bootable CD, then boot from that CD and run the diagnostics.

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Chris9014 wrote:[color=blue]
> The other night I was in a rush and I held down the power button until
> it shut off. the next day I tryed turning it on and after the MB
> homepage came up for 3 secs on the top left hand corner of the screen it
> said "Disk boot failure, please insert boot disk and press enter" so i
> fooled around with the priority settings a little bit and nothing
> worked. I then inserted the windows vista CD and it would say "Loading
> windows files" then the loading bar came up and it would always freeze
> at the same point and after about a minute a blue screen came up saying
> a problem occured and is shutting off the computer to prevent further
> damage. Iv tryed everything. could my hard drive be damaged or
> something? Please someone help me. I cant work with much because i cant
> even get into windows! :-( All i can work with is the Setup menu
>
>[/color]
I've one box that used to occasionally do that. Here is what I used to do.
Unplug the box, open it and unplug the power from the HDD that is not
booting.
Re-plug the HDD, close the case, plug it back in and push the power button.
HTH!

All that seems to be wrong is that you may have messed up the file system.
Run chkdsk /f on the drive and all should be well.

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"Chris9014" <Chris9014.3vg7nc@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:Chris9014.3vg7nc@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> The other night I was in a rush and I held down the power button until
> it shut off. the next day I tryed turning it on and after the MB
> homepage came up for 3 secs on the top left hand corner of the screen it
> said "Disk boot failure, please insert boot disk and press enter" so i
> fooled around with the priority settings a little bit and nothing
> worked. I then inserted the windows vista CD and it would say "Loading
> windows files" then the loading bar came up and it would always freeze
> at the same point and after about a minute a blue screen came up saying
> a problem occured and is shutting off the computer to prevent further
> damage. Iv tryed everything. could my hard drive be damaged or
> something? Please someone help me. I cant work with much because i cant
> even get into windows! :-( All i can work with is the Setup menu
>
>
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"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>
> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so, try
> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>
> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
> suggest.
>[/color]

Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots from
the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
A very useful tool to have around!

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:28:52 +0100, Gordon wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>
>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so, try
>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>
>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>> suggest.
>>[/color]
>
> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots from
> the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
> A very useful tool to have around![/color]

I take it you mean a boot CD with a program that can copy your internal
hard drive to, say, a USB drive.

Yes, I should have though of that - I have used one related product, EAESUS
Disk Copy (which is free), myself. In the last two weeks, in fact :-)

However, EASEUS won't copy individual files or folders, AFAIK, whereas I'm
guessing that you are implying a setup that will do that.

Thanks.

--
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"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:pyek9l5ydj59$.br2h8wa2fg00.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:28:52 +0100, Gordon wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>>
>>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so,
>>> try
>>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
>>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>>
>>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>>> suggest.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots
>> from
>> the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
>> A very useful tool to have around![/color]
>
> I take it you mean a boot CD with a program that can copy your internal
> hard drive to, say, a USB drive.
>
> Yes, I should have though of that - I have used one related product,
> EAESUS
> Disk Copy (which is free), myself. In the last two weeks, in fact :-)
>
> However, EASEUS won't copy individual files or folders, AFAIK, whereas I'm
> guessing that you are implying a setup that will do that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]

I haven't tried it myself but some versions of Linux reportedly run on CD
without having to get to the hard drive at all, so they might be able to see
your drive and another drive and let you save files before you reformat and
reinstall.

Of course you wouldn't have anything to reinstall if you could just copy in
your last backup instead of copying much if anything out. Regular backups
can be time consuming but also a life saver if you get screwed like that.
If you don't have one, get a drive you can backup your entire PC to.
Ideally see if you can find a free program (or one you're willing to pay
for) that can make a full backup of your drive as well as incremental
backups.

If you don't have a drive to backup to, try this:
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4622464&sku=I21-6238[/url]
1 TB for under $100! I want one of these myself.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:45:20 -0400, Eric wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pyek9l5ydj59$.br2h8wa2fg00.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:28:52 +0100, Gordon wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so,
>>>> try
>>>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
>>>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>>>
>>>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>>>> suggest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots
>>> from
>>> the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
>>> A very useful tool to have around![/color]
>>
>> I take it you mean a boot CD with a program that can copy your internal
>> hard drive to, say, a USB drive.
>>
>> Yes, I should have though of that - I have used one related product,
>> EAESUS
>> Disk Copy (which is free), myself. In the last two weeks, in fact :-)
>>
>> However, EASEUS won't copy individual files or folders, AFAIK, whereas I'm
>> guessing that you are implying a setup that will do that.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]
>
> I haven't tried it myself but some versions of Linux reportedly run on CD
> without having to get to the hard drive at all, so they might be able to see
> your drive and another drive and let you save files before you reformat and
> reinstall.
>
> Of course you wouldn't have anything to reinstall if you could just copy in
> your last backup instead of copying much if anything out. Regular backups
> can be time consuming but also a life saver if you get screwed like that.
> If you don't have one, get a drive you can backup your entire PC to.
> Ideally see if you can find a free program (or one you're willing to pay
> for) that can make a full backup of your drive as well as incremental
> backups.
>
> If you don't have a drive to backup to, try this:
> [url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4622464&sku=I21-6238[/url]
> 1 TB for under $100! I want one of these myself.[/color]

Perhaps you should be addressing the OP instead of me :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:1fro4uxrg2on6.i31ybjr0o61n$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:45:20 -0400, Eric wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:pyek9l5ydj59$.br2h8wa2fg00.dlg@40tude.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:28:52 +0100, Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so,
>>>>> try
>>>>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data
>>>>> as
>>>>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>>>>
>>>>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>>>>> suggest.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots
>>>> from
>>>> the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
>>>> A very useful tool to have around!
>>>
>>> I take it you mean a boot CD with a program that can copy your internal
>>> hard drive to, say, a USB drive.
>>>
>>> Yes, I should have though of that - I have used one related product,
>>> EAESUS
>>> Disk Copy (which is free), myself. In the last two weeks, in fact :-)
>>>
>>> However, EASEUS won't copy individual files or folders, AFAIK, whereas
>>> I'm
>>> guessing that you are implying a setup that will do that.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]
>>
>> I haven't tried it myself but some versions of Linux reportedly run on CD
>> without having to get to the hard drive at all, so they might be able to
>> see
>> your drive and another drive and let you save files before you reformat
>> and
>> reinstall.
>>
>> Of course you wouldn't have anything to reinstall if you could just copy
>> in
>> your last backup instead of copying much if anything out. Regular
>> backups
>> can be time consuming but also a life saver if you get screwed like that.
>> If you don't have one, get a drive you can backup your entire PC to.
>> Ideally see if you can find a free program (or one you're willing to pay
>> for) that can make a full backup of your drive as well as incremental
>> backups.
>>
>> If you don't have a drive to backup to, try this:
>> [url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4622464&sku=I21-6238[/url]
>> 1 TB for under $100! I want one of these myself.[/color]
>
> Perhaps you should be addressing the OP instead of me :-)
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]

You mean the OP doesn't read responses to your posts, or that it sounds like
I'm providing instructions for you on what the OP should be doing?

I wanted to address your response which sounds like you expect Linux to run
a setup from a CD to install on a hard drive rather than running from the
CD, as well as to mention what the CD should be doing, where another drive
would be required unless you do just want to wipe the drive (in which case
you could use the Windows install CD instead) or you intend to save files
from the hard drive to the CD.

You could also take the advice on regular backups and check out an external
hard drive if you don't have one already, but of course only the one with
the problem here really has to do anything.

Gordon wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>
>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so,
>> try
>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>
>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>> suggest.
>>[/color]
>
> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots
> from the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
> A very useful tool to have around![/color]

****. You must be sick today. Why didn't you say, "It works just fine
on my end"?

"Bill Yanaire, ESQ" <bill@yanaire.gov> wrote in message
news:h3qj0i$ffd$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Gordon wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>>
>>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so,
>>> try
>>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data as
>>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>>
>>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>>> suggest.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots
>> from the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
>> A very useful tool to have around![/color]
>
> ****. You must be sick today. Why didn't you say, "It works just fine on
> my end"?
>[/color]


Because being a fool, you didn't comprehend what he was saying.

Do you know what a LiveCD is, momma's boy?

Duck,Duck,Goose wrote:[color=blue]
> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" <bill@yanaire.gov> wrote in message
> news:h3qj0i$ffd$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Gordon wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if
>>>> so, try
>>>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your
>>>> data as
>>>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>>>
>>>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>>>> suggest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that
>>> boots from the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
>>> A very useful tool to have around![/color]
>>
>> ****. You must be sick today. Why didn't you say, "It works just
>> fine on my end"?
>>[/color]
>
>
> Because being a fool, you didn't comprehend what he was saying.
>
> Do you know what a LiveCD is, momma's boy?[/color]

You completely missed the mark as usual. It isn't about LiveCD, it's
about Gordon. Pay attention.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:07:19 -0400, Eric wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:1fro4uxrg2on6.i31ybjr0o61n$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:45:20 -0400, Eric wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:pyek9l5ydj59$.br2h8wa2fg00.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:28:52 +0100, Gordon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1k9j1aat208dq.1u1sxz0but8nd$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:03 +0530, Chris9014 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think your drive is cooked (I might be wrong, & I hope I am); if so,
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> to connect the drive to another computer to save as much of your data
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> you can, then reinstall your system from scratch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You would have to remove it from the current computer to do what I
>>>>>> suggest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't have to do that anymore - you can run a Live Linux CD that boots
>>>>> from
>>>>> the CD and runs in RAM without touching the HDD...
>>>>> A very useful tool to have around!
>>>>
>>>> I take it you mean a boot CD with a program that can copy your internal
>>>> hard drive to, say, a USB drive.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I should have though of that - I have used one related product,
>>>> EAESUS
>>>> Disk Copy (which is free), myself. In the last two weeks, in fact :-)
>>>>
>>>> However, EASEUS won't copy individual files or folders, AFAIK, whereas
>>>> I'm
>>>> guessing that you are implying a setup that will do that.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
>>>
>>> I haven't tried it myself but some versions of Linux reportedly run on CD
>>> without having to get to the hard drive at all, so they might be able to
>>> see
>>> your drive and another drive and let you save files before you reformat
>>> and
>>> reinstall.
>>>
>>> Of course you wouldn't have anything to reinstall if you could just copy
>>> in
>>> your last backup instead of copying much if anything out. Regular
>>> backups
>>> can be time consuming but also a life saver if you get screwed like that.
>>> If you don't have one, get a drive you can backup your entire PC to.
>>> Ideally see if you can find a free program (or one you're willing to pay
>>> for) that can make a full backup of your drive as well as incremental
>>> backups.
>>>
>>> If you don't have a drive to backup to, try this:
>>> [url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4622464&sku=I21-6238[/url]
>>> 1 TB for under $100! I want one of these myself.[/color]
>>
>> Perhaps you should be addressing the OP instead of me :-)
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]
>
> You mean the OP doesn't read responses to your posts, or that it sounds like
> I'm providing instructions for you on what the OP should be doing?
>
> I wanted to address your response which sounds like you expect Linux to run
> a setup from a CD to install on a hard drive rather than running from the
> CD, as well as to mention what the CD should be doing, where another drive
> would be required unless you do just want to wipe the drive (in which case
> you could use the Windows install CD instead) or you intend to save files
> from the hard drive to the CD.
>
> You could also take the advice on regular backups and check out an external
> hard drive if you don't have one already, but of course only the one with
> the problem here really has to do anything.[/color]

No, I mean you are responding to my post as though I am the one with the
OP's problem, instead of directing the OP's attention to your ideas.

I have no idea where you got the interpretation in your second paragraph. I
did use the word "setup", but the context *should* have made it clear that
I meant an arrangement present on the CD for the OP to use to save his
files. As I said!

From my older American Heritage Dictionary:
Setup n. 1. The way in which something is constituted, arranged, or
planned. (plus 6 other definitions).

Note that my meaning is the first definition of the bunch...

As for your third paragraph, where did you get the random assumption that I
don't back up regularly? I never addressed my own behavior in that regard
in this thread...and it is not true. Well, not quite true...

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

I've done hard shut-down many times w/o consequences, and remember this is
how we turned ALL things off before the advent of firmware-based (soft)
power controls.

Even though it's not recommended, usually there's no damage beyond a few
complaining Windows messages (or Log files w/complaining lines!).
Perhaps it was your bad luck that in your case it did damage system
files....

P.S. Don't get upset but as a suggestion:
"tryed" is properly spelled as "tried".
It's odd that a foreign born like myself has to mention it to an American
born, but I've seen worse in college - American kids are infected with
anti-education bug? :)

The posters here are correct.
Sorry Microsoft but even I have to confirm this:
a Linux CD e.g. my favorite flavor - SUSE by Novell Networks, can do wonders
in terms of handling a damaged harddisk.
Its bootmanager pulled off incredible situations in my past exceeding WinXP
recovery abilities - bootmanager in SUSE was called "GRUB" and I made a
dual-boot system.
But as you get older you lose interest in hobbying around, as Linux did
nothing for my business or profession, I went back to single-Windows
configuration.
So I haven't played w/Linux in several years, and Windows improved its
boot-management functions anyway.

Also I am not in the mood to bash yet another premier American co.
(Microsoft) - w/o such America would slide really into economic hell, and
drag Europe along with it.
You have to understand that free ware amounts to Socialism and frankly I
know how bad it is better than someone who knows it from BOOKS and FAIRY
TALES - I've lived thru it for 20 years. When people aren't motivated by
money (capitalism), they run on Enthusiasm or Fear for X-number of years and
then start producing inferior rubbish.
Come visit Russia and see how that Saudi Arabia w/Trees still can't get upto
Western technology standards DESPITE BILLIONS in revenues from oil.
Now imagine it had no oil or any resources like Japan? It'd be worse than
Zimbabwe.

Free software makes as much sense as taxrate of 100% - it removes motivation
to work & produce quality product, it becomes a HOBBY.
You can take a nap. Who cares, can you complain on Linux distributors like
you can request customer support form Microsoft? No, because it's free,
overall it's rubbish.
It has strong points, but these are points - not a complete product.

Frankly Linux smells like communism - a systrem where nobody cares for their
products. Check out Cuban or Russian cars - only suicidals would drive
them.