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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:vk9t55920ipl9aoei69b86u3emc7ldnqkh@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Manny, > > The email sender sent several photos that can be viewed as an image > slide show. That facility works under my wife's XP notebook but not > under Vista. That is the real problem I need to solve. Essentially > when I click on View image slide show I get the following error > message "Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo > Gallery\Photoviewer.dll." The specified module could not be found. The > file Photoviewer.dll is in that folder. The only thing I can surmise > is that the file is corrupted. I have a new copy of that file but > Vista will not allow me to replace the old file with the new one as > Security will not let me make a deletion or renaming and then a > replacement. >[/color] The path in the error message you quoted : "Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo Gallery\Photoviewer.dll." There is no folder called 'ProgramFiles', it's 'Program Files' with a space. (If it's just a typing error then ignore it.) Actually you don't even know for sure if this file is corrupted so replacing it may have no effect on your problem. Anyway, to take ownership of a file copy this reg file into a blank text document, save the file as ' Ownership.reg ', right-click and select ' Merge'. This will add a right-click context menu ' Take Ownership '. Once you have ownership you can rename the file. (If you want to reverse the registry changes use the second reg file.) Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas] @="Take Ownership" "NoWorkingDirectory"="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command] @="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F" "IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas] @="Take Ownership" "NoWorkingDirectory"="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command] @="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t" "IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t" *************************************************************** To remove the context menu: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas] [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas] **************************************************************** |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Have you tried replacing in safemode ? On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:10:44 -0700, [email]oldman@old.net[/email] wrote: [color=blue] >Manny, > >The email sender sent several photos that can be viewed as an image >slide show. That facility works under my wife's XP notebook but not >under Vista. That is the real problem I need to solve. Essentially >when I click on View image slide show I get the following error >message "Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo >Gallery\Photoviewer.dll." The specified module could not be found. The >file Photoviewer.dll is in that folder. The only thing I can surmise >is that the file is corrupted. I have a new copy of that file but >Vista will not allow me to replace the old file with the new one as >Security will not let me make a deletion or renaming and then a >replacement. > > >On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:37:46 -0500, Manny Weisbord ><mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote: >[color=green] >> >>oldman@old.net wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>>Does this program allow you to view a slide show in an email? If so, >>>where do you get the program.[/color] >> >>Google it! It's great. >> >>As for viewing "in an email", it's highly recommended to save the file >>to your hard drive and THEN view it. >> >>[color=darkred] >>> >>>TIA >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:42:12 +0100, Jim <bojimbo261@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:57:26 -0700, [email]oldman@old.net[/email] wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am trying to view a slide show in an email under Vista. When I >>>>>click on view image slide show I get a message the photoviewer.dll can >>>>>not be found. The file is in the folder Windows Photo Gallery. Can >>>>>some one tell me what is wrong? Could the file be corrupted? How do >>>>>I get a clean copy if the file is damages? >>>>> >>>>>TIA >>>> >>>>D/l and use Faststone Image Viewer ( free ) .[/color][/color][/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Dave, Thanks for the response and info. Regarding you comment about Program Files being two works that is true. However, when the error message appeared on the screen the note indicated ProgramFiles as one word no spaces. When I look at the version number of the photoviewer.dll in my Windows Photo Gallery folder it is 6.0.002.18005and 2,323968 bytes when looked at via properties. However, the file I got recently via Microsoft site is 6.0.6000.16386 and 2,313,216 bytes. Is this what is on your computer? oldman On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:03:21 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: [color=blue] > ><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:vk9t55920ipl9aoei69b86u3emc7ldnqkh@4ax.com...[color=green] >> Manny, >> >> The email sender sent several photos that can be viewed as an image >> slide show. That facility works under my wife's XP notebook but not >> under Vista. That is the real problem I need to solve. Essentially >> when I click on View image slide show I get the following error >> message "Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo >> Gallery\Photoviewer.dll." The specified module could not be found. The >> file Photoviewer.dll is in that folder. The only thing I can surmise >> is that the file is corrupted. I have a new copy of that file but >> Vista will not allow me to replace the old file with the new one as >> Security will not let me make a deletion or renaming and then a >> replacement. >>[/color] > >The path in the error message you quoted : > >"Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo Gallery\Photoviewer.dll." > >There is no folder called 'ProgramFiles', it's 'Program Files' with a space. >(If it's just a typing error then ignore it.) >Actually you don't even know for sure if this file is corrupted so replacing it >may have no effect on your problem. > >Anyway, to take ownership of a file copy this reg file into a blank text document, >save the file as ' Ownership.reg ', right-click and select ' Merge'. >This will add a right-click context menu ' Take Ownership '. >Once you have ownership you can rename the file. >(If you want to reverse the registry changes use the second reg file.) > > > Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 > >[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas] >@="Take Ownership" >"NoWorkingDirectory"="" > >[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command] >@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F" >"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F" > >[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas] >@="Take Ownership" >"NoWorkingDirectory"="" > >[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command] >@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t" >"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t" > > > >*************************************************************** >To remove the context menu: > > >Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 > > >[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas] > >[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas] > >**************************************************************** > >[/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:af6165lk6tap6ecbcob5h7d00s8dfdtqi4@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Dave, > > Thanks for the response and info. > > Regarding you comment about Program Files being two works that is > true. However, when the error message appeared on the screen the note > indicated ProgramFiles as one word no spaces. > > When I look at the version number of the photoviewer.dll in my Windows > Photo Gallery folder it is 6.0.002.18005and 2,323968 bytes when looked > at via properties. However, the file I got recently via Microsoft > site is 6.0.6000.16386 and 2,313,216 bytes. Is this what is on your > computer? > > oldman >[/color] Well, if the program is looking for ProgramFiles that may be why it can't find the dll. Don't know what to say about that. I have 3 versions of Photoviewer.dll on my machine. c:\program files\windows photo gallery: 6.0.6002.18005 2,323,968 bytes. c:\windows\winsxs: 6.0.6002.18005 6.0.6001.18000 6.0.6000.16386 It looks like the file you downloaded is the original first version. Does the slide show work normally, with pictures from another folder ? |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Dave, When you look at individual pictures they are viewable. The problem come when you want to view as a slide show by clicking on "View Image Slide Show. I just did a search on my system and the only one I have in a working folder and that is the one I wrote about in the last note. Also, just checked all of my drives and the only "Program Files" that show are the two word version. Could be a problem with the Microsoft error message indicating program files as one word when it is truly two words. The banner error message is as follows: In blue area it says: RunDll In white area it says: Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo Gallery\Photoviewer.dll The specified module could not be found. So your version the same size as mine 2,323,968 bytes. I wonder if I try to replace all of the files in the Windows Photo Gallery folder if that might work? On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:43:51 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: [color=blue] > > ><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:af6165lk6tap6ecbcob5h7d00s8dfdtqi4@4ax.com...[color=green] >> Dave, >> >> Thanks for the response and info. >> >> Regarding you comment about Program Files being two works that is >> true. However, when the error message appeared on the screen the note >> indicated ProgramFiles as one word no spaces. >> >> When I look at the version number of the photoviewer.dll in my Windows >> Photo Gallery folder it is 6.0.002.18005and 2,323968 bytes when looked >> at via properties. However, the file I got recently via Microsoft >> site is 6.0.6000.16386 and 2,313,216 bytes. Is this what is on your >> computer? >> >> oldman >>[/color] > > >Well, if the program is looking for ProgramFiles that may be why it can't find the dll. >Don't know what to say about that. > >I have 3 versions of Photoviewer.dll on my machine. > >c:\program files\windows photo gallery: >6.0.6002.18005 2,323,968 bytes. > >c:\windows\winsxs: >6.0.6002.18005 >6.0.6001.18000 >6.0.6000.16386 > >It looks like the file you downloaded is the original first version. > >Does the slide show work normally, with pictures from another folder ? > >[/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Did you read where Dave said "Well, if the program is looking for ProgramFiles that may be why it can't find the dll"? That is a very significant clue... On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:05:02 -0700, [email]oldman@old.net[/email] wrote: [color=blue] > Dave, > > When you look at individual pictures they are viewable. The problem > come when you want to view as a slide show by clicking on "View Image > Slide Show. I just did a search on my system and the only one I have > in a working folder and that is the one I wrote about in the last > note. > > Also, just checked all of my drives and the only "Program Files" that > show are the two word version. Could be a problem with the Microsoft > error message indicating program files as one word when it is truly > two words. > > The banner error message is as follows: > In blue area it says: RunDll > In white area it says: Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo > Gallery\Photoviewer.dll > > The specified module could not be found. > > So your version the same size as mine 2,323,968 bytes. > > I wonder if I try to replace all of the files in the Windows Photo > Gallery folder if that might work? > > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:43:51 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: >[color=green] >> >> >><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:af6165lk6tap6ecbcob5h7d00s8dfdtqi4@4ax.com...[color=darkred] >>> Dave, >>> >>> Thanks for the response and info. >>> >>> Regarding you comment about Program Files being two works that is >>> true. However, when the error message appeared on the screen the note >>> indicated ProgramFiles as one word no spaces. >>> >>> When I look at the version number of the photoviewer.dll in my Windows >>> Photo Gallery folder it is 6.0.002.18005and 2,323968 bytes when looked >>> at via properties. However, the file I got recently via Microsoft >>> site is 6.0.6000.16386 and 2,313,216 bytes. Is this what is on your >>> computer? >>> >>> oldman >>>[/color] >> >> >>Well, if the program is looking for ProgramFiles that may be why it can't find the dll. >>Don't know what to say about that. >> >>I have 3 versions of Photoviewer.dll on my machine. >> >>c:\program files\windows photo gallery: >>6.0.6002.18005 2,323,968 bytes. >> >>c:\windows\winsxs: >>6.0.6002.18005 >>6.0.6001.18000 >>6.0.6000.16386 >> >>It looks like the file you downloaded is the original first version. >> >>Does the slide show work normally, with pictures from another folder ? >> >>[/color][/color] -- Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:nae165tk1439fgoltcpjv35gcakna50l66@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Dave, > > When you look at individual pictures they are viewable. The problem > come when you want to view as a slide show by clicking on "View Image > Slide Show. I just did a search on my system and the only one I have > in a working folder and that is the one I wrote about in the last > note. > > Also, just checked all of my drives and the only "Program Files" that > show are the two word version. Could be a problem with the Microsoft > error message indicating program files as one word when it is truly > two words. > > The banner error message is as follows: > In blue area it says: RunDll > In white area it says: Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo > Gallery\Photoviewer.dll > > The specified module could not be found. > > So your version the same size as mine 2,323,968 bytes. > > I wonder if I try to replace all of the files in the Windows Photo > Gallery folder if that might work? > >[/color] I see you are posting with Forte Agent but when you click on ' View Image Slide Show ' I'm guessing you are talking about the link embedded in the Windows Mail program. I think the problem is probably with Windows Mail and not Windows Photo Gallery. Microsoft have stopped support for Windows Mail, and expect everyone to upgrade to Windows Live Mail. That may be one way of fixing your problem, i.e. upgrade to Live Mail. |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Dave & Gene, Thanks for the response. I just checked Help about and I am using Windows Live Mail v12.0.1606. When I click on the Mail Icon Live Mail is what comes up. If I can resolve by mid next week a friend is going to come over and help rebuild starting with a format of the c drive. oldman On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:47:03 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: [color=blue] > ><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:nae165tk1439fgoltcpjv35gcakna50l66@4ax.com...[color=green] >> Dave, >> >> When you look at individual pictures they are viewable. The problem >> come when you want to view as a slide show by clicking on "View Image >> Slide Show. I just did a search on my system and the only one I have >> in a working folder and that is the one I wrote about in the last >> note. >> >> Also, just checked all of my drives and the only "Program Files" that >> show are the two word version. Could be a problem with the Microsoft >> error message indicating program files as one word when it is truly >> two words. >> >> The banner error message is as follows: >> In blue area it says: RunDll >> In white area it says: Error loading ProgramFiles\Windows Photo >> Gallery\Photoviewer.dll >> >> The specified module could not be found. >> >> So your version the same size as mine 2,323,968 bytes. >> >> I wonder if I try to replace all of the files in the Windows Photo >> Gallery folder if that might work? >> >>[/color] > >I see you are posting with Forte Agent but when you click >on ' View Image Slide Show ' I'm guessing you are talking about the >link embedded in the Windows Mail program. >I think the problem is probably with Windows Mail and not Windows Photo Gallery. >Microsoft have stopped support for Windows Mail, and expect everyone to upgrade >to Windows Live Mail. >That may be one way of fixing your problem, i.e. upgrade to Live Mail. > > > > > > > > > > > >[/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:ecs365978o2b927vlm7qhri6ea677qdk14@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Dave & Gene, > > Thanks for the response. > > I just checked Help about and I am using Windows Live Mail v12.0.1606. > When I click on the Mail Icon Live Mail is what comes up. > > If I can resolve by mid next week a friend is going to come over and > help rebuild starting with a format of the c drive. > > oldman[/color] You can have Live Mail write a troubleshooting log file, but I don't know how useful it might be. In Live Mail go to Tools > Options > Advanced > Maintenance In the Troubleshooting section check General and Email. The log file is located at C:\LiveMail and it's called WindowsLiveMail.log. It's a large text file and it may already have some clues about your problem. If you try the slide show a few times see if anything is reported. I have lots of errors in mine, things like: Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.0206********************************************************************************* [18:28:30.48] 0f94 Mail: Zone_MailChk ERROR: (storutil.cpp:5609), failed with 0x80070057 [18:28:30.48] 0f94 Mail: Zone_MailChk ERROR: (storutil.cpp:5731), failed with 0x80070057 [18:28:45.31] 0e04 Mail: Zone_MailChk ERROR: (menuutil.cpp:1456), failed with 0x80040100 I don't know what they mean but if I didn't look in the log file I wouldn't know I had any errors! (I suppose you could try upgrading to Live Mail ver.14.) |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Gene, I just went to LiveMail and checked the boxes General and POP3 which I think is the Email box that you mean in this note. I do not see a LiveMail folder in the Windows folder. I also tried a search for the file WindowsLiveMail.log but nothing was found. Any other ideas. oldman On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:44:56 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: [color=blue] > > ><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:ecs365978o2b927vlm7qhri6ea677qdk14@4ax.com...[color=green] >> Dave & Gene, >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> I just checked Help about and I am using Windows Live Mail v12.0.1606. >> When I click on the Mail Icon Live Mail is what comes up. >> >> If I can resolve by mid next week a friend is going to come over and >> help rebuild starting with a format of the c drive. >> >> oldman[/color] > > >You can have Live Mail write a troubleshooting log file, but I don't know how useful >it might be. > >In Live Mail go to Tools > Options > Advanced > Maintenance >In the Troubleshooting section check General and Email. > >The log file is located at C:\LiveMail and it's called WindowsLiveMail.log. >It's a large text file and it may already have some clues about your problem. >If you try the slide show a few times see if anything is reported. > >I have lots of errors in mine, things like: > >Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.0206********************************************************************************* >[18:28:30.48] 0f94 Mail: Zone_MailChk ERROR: (storutil.cpp:5609), failed with 0x80070057 >[18:28:30.48] 0f94 Mail: Zone_MailChk ERROR: (storutil.cpp:5731), failed with 0x80070057 >[18:28:45.31] 0e04 Mail: Zone_MailChk ERROR: (menuutil.cpp:1456), failed with 0x80040100 > >I don't know what they mean but if I didn't look in the log file I wouldn't know I had any errors! > >(I suppose you could try upgrading to Live Mail ver.14.) > >[/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:2nd465d6h653e7agohsnu863dj7io0gtts@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Gene, > > I just went to LiveMail and checked the boxes General and POP3 which I > think is the Email box that you mean in this note. I do not see a > LiveMail folder in the Windows folder. I also tried a search for the > file WindowsLiveMail.log but nothing was found. > > Any other ideas. > > oldman >[/color] It was me that suggested the log file, not Gene. I made no mention of POP3. Open Live Mail. On the top right hand side click on the Menus button ( Alt+M). Select ' Show menu bar '. Now from the menu bar find ' Tools ' and click on it. Select ' Options'. A selection of tabbed boxes opens up. Select the ' Advanced ' tab. At the bottom click on ' Maintenance '. Where it says ' Troubleshooting ' select the box marked ' General'. And then select the box marked ' E-mail '. Click on the ' Close button' Then click on the 'Apply' and ' OK' button. The log file is in : C:\LiveMail , NOT in Windows. |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Dave, I followed all of your steps. When I get to trouble shooting the choices that can be checked are: General, POP3, News, IMAP, HTTP. There is no option for email. Also looked in Explorer and i do not see any folder named LiveMail on the C drive. I have checked General and POP3. I just went to the email that has the slide show option for the jpg's. Clicked on view image slide show and got failure message but no folder called LiveMail on C drive. I even created the LiveMail folder but after the test there was nothing in it. oldman On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:35:50 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: [color=blue] > ><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:2nd465d6h653e7agohsnu863dj7io0gtts@4ax.com...[color=green] >> Gene, >> >> I just went to LiveMail and checked the boxes General and POP3 which I >> think is the Email box that you mean in this note. I do not see a >> LiveMail folder in the Windows folder. I also tried a search for the >> file WindowsLiveMail.log but nothing was found. >> >> Any other ideas. >> >> oldman >>[/color] > > >It was me that suggested the log file, not Gene. >I made no mention of POP3. > >Open Live Mail. >On the top right hand side click on the Menus button ( Alt+M). >Select ' Show menu bar '. >Now from the menu bar find ' Tools ' and click on it. >Select ' Options'. >A selection of tabbed boxes opens up. >Select the ' Advanced ' tab. >At the bottom click on ' Maintenance '. >Where it says ' Troubleshooting ' select the box marked ' General'. >And then select the box marked ' E-mail '. >Click on the ' Close button' >Then click on the 'Apply' and ' OK' button. > >The log file is in : >C:\LiveMail , NOT in Windows. > > > > > > > > > >[/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:sue665he7j526oq8fg6lu5ahebfha9v0g7@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Dave, > > I followed all of your steps. When I get to trouble shooting the > choices that can be checked are: General, POP3, News, IMAP, HTTP. > There is no option for email. Also looked in Explorer and i do not > see any folder named LiveMail on the C drive. > > I have checked General and POP3. > > I just went to the email that has the slide show option for the jpg's. > Clicked on view image slide show and got failure message but no folder > called LiveMail on C drive. I even created the LiveMail folder but > after the test there was nothing in it. > > oldman >[/color] Sorry, my fault, mea maxima culpa, etc. I am using Windows 7 and I assumed the folder tree was the same as Vista. Have a look for the log file here: c:\users\your name\appdata\local\microsoft\windows live mail As to the differences regarding POP3, e-mail etc. I can only guess it's because you are running Live Mail version 12 and I am on version 14. |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem Dave, I did not realize that there was an update to LiveMail. Installed the update and now the Photo Galley problem is gone due to the update. Thanks for the help. Now down to one problem related to office but have not figured it out. Will post a note in the office Group to see if someone can help on that one. Filed a problem report with Microsoft but not sure when I will hear from them. Again Thanks, oldman On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:12:20 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@home.com> wrote: [color=blue] > ><oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:sue665he7j526oq8fg6lu5ahebfha9v0g7@4ax.com...[color=green] >> Dave, >> >> I followed all of your steps. When I get to trouble shooting the >> choices that can be checked are: General, POP3, News, IMAP, HTTP. >> There is no option for email. Also looked in Explorer and i do not >> see any folder named LiveMail on the C drive. >> >> I have checked General and POP3. >> >> I just went to the email that has the slide show option for the jpg's. >> Clicked on view image slide show and got failure message but no folder >> called LiveMail on C drive. I even created the LiveMail folder but >> after the test there was nothing in it. >> >> oldman >>[/color] > > >Sorry, my fault, mea maxima culpa, etc. >I am using Windows 7 and I assumed the folder tree was the same as Vista. > >Have a look for the log file here: > >c:\users\your name\appdata\local\microsoft\windows live mail > >As to the differences regarding POP3, e-mail etc. I can only guess it's >because you are running Live Mail version 12 and I am on version 14. > > > >[/color] |
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| Re: Windows Photo Gallery problem <oldman@old.net> wrote in message news:c10765p6lgvslb9kdi8b3r1rdukf9q2kj2@4ax.com...[color=blue] > Dave, > > I did not realize that there was an update to LiveMail. Installed the > update and now the Photo Galley problem is gone due to the update. > Thanks for the help. > > Now down to one problem related to office but have not figured it out. > Will post a note in the office Group to see if someone can help on > that one. Filed a problem report with Microsoft but not sure when I > will hear from them. > > Again Thanks, > > oldman >[/color] Glad it's fixed - don't hold your breath waiting for Microsoft! |
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