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Old 06-29-2009, 09:50 AM
aitch
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Registry cleaning.

A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
The software I would use would be C Cleaner.

All views would be welcomed
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:20 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.



"aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>
> All views would be welcomed[/color]

I see he has already admitted to being "no expert" so why recommend this
pointless and dangerous course of action ?

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Old 06-29-2009, 10:20 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Registry cleaning.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:49:02 -0700, aitch
<aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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> A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>
> All views would be welcomed[/color]


I disagree with your friend, very strongly, and recommend against
using *any* registry cleaner.

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read [url]http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html[/url]

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Old 06-29-2009, 10:20 AM
Richard Urban
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Re: Registry cleaning.

Personally, CCleaner is the only program that I apply to any computer I
repair. I have never had any undesired results from using this program. It
is on the shy side of what it attempts to do and is not very aggressive at
all in it's changes. It also allows you to backup the changes and reapply
them if you have any dire consequences by allowing the changes.

That being said - I can't say as how I have ever realized any improvement
after cleaning the registry!

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>
> All views would be welcomed[/color]

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:00 AM
Jon
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Re: Registry cleaning.

"aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>
> All views would be welcomed[/color]


It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's essential.

Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
since the changes are generally incremental.

A regular and targetted cleanout will keep the system speeding along.

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Jon

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:10 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.

HOGWASH AND BULL***t!

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"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:%23%23sdAKO%23JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
>> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
>> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>>
>> All views would be welcomed[/color]
>
>
> It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's
> essential.
>
> Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
> months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
> overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
> since the changes are generally incremental.
>
> A regular and targetted cleanout will keep the system speeding along.
>
> --
> Jon
>[/color]

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:20 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.

Absolute nonsense!

Chris


"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:%23%23sdAKO%23JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
>> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
>> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>>
>> All views would be welcomed[/color]
>
>
> It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's
> essential.
>
> Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
> months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
> overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
> since the changes are generally incremental.
>
> A regular and targetted cleanout will keep the system speeding along.
>
> --
> Jon
>[/color]

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
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> HOGWASH AND BULL***t!
>[/color]


You're entitled to your opinion / expletives but you're wrong.

I could cite specific examples of in-built Vista programs that progressively
build up superfluous entries in the registry over time, and cause a slowdown
, but I'll refrain. I'll leave it as a homework exercise for you to
discover, should your humility ever get the better of you.

Also since it wouldn't allow to learn the more general and important lesson,
which is that Registry Cleaners are NOT inherently evil. The name of a
program doesn't make it good or evil. A program can be written well or
badly. It can address and solve particular bugs or issues, or not

Which should really be a self-evident platitude. Anyone who has ever strung
together a simple script, program or batch file, will be well aware of this.


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Jon



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Old 06-29-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.



"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:##sdAKO#JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
>> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
>> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>>
>> All views would be welcomed[/color]
>
>
> It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's
> essential.
>
> Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
> months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
> overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
> since the changes are generally incremental.
>
> A regular and targetted cleanout will keep the system speeding along.
>
> --
> Jon[/color]
Idiot[color=blue]
>[/color]
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:30 AM
Jon
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Re: Registry cleaning.


"Chris S." <Chris.Sidener@nocrapverizon.net> wrote in message
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> Absolute nonsense!
>
> Chris[/color]


Isn't that an oxymoron?

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.


"El.Plates" <pints@onthebar.com> wrote in message
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>
> Idiot[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]


This isn't really the place for confessions. There *is* hope and help
available though.

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:53:18 +0100, "Jon"
<Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
> > expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
> > The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
> >
> > All views would be welcomed[/color]
>
>
> It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's essential.
>
> Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
> months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
> overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
> since the changes are generally incremental.[/color]


I have run Vista on two machines, and on others for friends and
relatives. I have never experienced or seen anything like what you
describe. I completely disagree with what you say.

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.

HOGWASH AND BULL***t!

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:O%23dXlZO%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:Oh50cOO%23JHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> HOGWASH AND BULL***t!
>>[/color]
>
>
> You're entitled to your opinion / expletives but you're wrong.
>
> I could cite specific examples of in-built Vista programs that
> progressively build up superfluous entries in the registry over time, and
> cause a slowdown , but I'll refrain. I'll leave it as a homework exercise
> for you to discover, should your humility ever get the better of you.
>
> Also since it wouldn't allow to learn the more general and important
> lesson, which is that Registry Cleaners are NOT inherently evil. The name
> of a program doesn't make it good or evil. A program can be written well
> or badly. It can address and solve particular bugs or issues, or not
>
> Which should really be a self-evident platitude. Anyone who has ever
> strung together a simple script, program or batch file, will be well aware
> of this.
>
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
>[/color]

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.

Well, it's quite apparent I won't be following any of your advice, Jon.

C.B.


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and less fortunate among us.

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> "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
>> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
>> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
>>
>> All views would be welcomed[/color]
>
>
> It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's
> essential.
>
> Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
> months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
> overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
> since the changes are generally incremental.
>
> A regular and targetted cleanout will keep the system speeding along.
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Registry cleaning.

On 6/29/2009 2:01 PM, Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
> HOGWASH AND BULL***t!
>[/color]

Well, there is a simple way to prove it,
just download and install say 20 apps, of various sorts,
use all of them for a couple of days,
then use windows to un-install them... and continue using your computer
as you normal would...

Windows, does not watch the applications, of what software gets
installed, into which folders... and Windows, does not watch the
applications of what they take out, AND/OR leave behind.

Hmm, there was a application on Macintosh, that would encode a new
application, with a tag header of every part of the software that got
installed, so, you would launch the app first, the launch the the new
application that you wanted to install... and your done..

un-install was easy... too
just launch the first application, it pick from the list, and click
un-install ( all ) would be un-install, not even ONE trace left behind.

I wish I could say the same for Windows, But I can't..
Even, Microsoft offered One-Care on line, for fix registry problems...

As you know the registry does have a size limit.


Rick




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