So they could save a trip?


"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
news:#SdfHWb#JHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My big question for those NOT upgrading: why would anyone wanting to buy a
> FULL install want to DOWNLOAD it - then burn it?? - for the same price ?
> [url]http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7-Professional/product/B985134B[/url]
>
>[/color]

And don't want to wait and don't want to spend another $14.99.



"xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> So they could save a trip?
>
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
> news:#SdfHWb#JHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> My big question for those NOT upgrading: why would anyone wanting to buy
>> a FULL install want to DOWNLOAD it - then burn it?? - for the same price
>> ?
>> [url]http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7-Professional/product/B985134B[/url]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Windows 7 is more ready, IMHO.

When the beta came out, most were impressed at how well it ran and the low
bug level. The RC was even more impressive. In many ways Windows 7 is
Vista's long awaited second edition and will probably be good for prime time
at launch, no need to wait for a service pack.

Saucy


"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:pmed459188mbkjq0q6is7st1n5mukg7vse@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:21:02 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>but that some[/color]
> experts advise waiting for the first service pack with any new OS.
>[/color]

[color=blue]
> Linux has been tried retail...only Dell has the cojones to keep at it.
> Though, they don't offer any support...only a link to an ubuntard forum.[/color]


Ubuntard ...HA what a great word. Added to spell checker :-)

How come that Alias idiot got out? Isnt Ubuntard secure????

"Ads" <honour198@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:ueYsPuw9JHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I work in retail and am already getting asked all the usual questions about
>Windows 7 ... Should i be telling people to upgrade when it comes out, or
>should we wait a few months for all the 'teething problems' to be ironed
>out?[/color]

Your job is to sell. It is irrelivant in today's dog eat dog environment if
it benefits the customer.

That being said, most cutomers are best off running what comes with the PC
unless they are advanced enough to worry about drivers and OS installs. And
Win 7 is in essence Vista repackaged.

If Win 7 is 100% compatible, it will be the same item with a different
monicer. If it is different it will take 6 months to a year for drivers to
be certified with it. Either way, prematurely jumping has it's hazards
either to the pocket book or user experience or both.

"Bill" <forgotit@work.net> wrote in message
news:zbo1m.16301$Xl4.2910@bignews5.bellsouth.net...[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Linux has been tried retail...only Dell has the cojones to keep at it.
>> Though, they don't offer any support...only a link to an ubuntard forum.[/color]
>
>
> Ubuntard ...HA what a great word. Added to spell checker :-)
>
> How come that Alias idiot got out? Isnt Ubuntard secure????[/color]

More secure than MS-Windows, in a Vacouver hacking challenge MS-Vista went
down to the hackers before Ubuntu. In fact in one challenge Ubuntu never
got hacked.

"Canuck57" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:oxo1m.3775$oQ6.703@newsfe12.iad...[color=blue]
>
> "Bill" <forgotit@work.net> wrote in message
> news:zbo1m.16301$Xl4.2910@bignews5.bellsouth.net...[color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Linux has been tried retail...only Dell has the cojones to keep at it.
>>> Though, they don't offer any support...only a link to an ubuntard forum.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Ubuntard ...HA what a great word. Added to spell checker :-)
>>
>> How come that Alias idiot got out? Isnt Ubuntard secure????[/color]
>
> More secure than MS-Windows, in a Vacouver hacking challenge MS-Vista went
> down to the hackers before Ubuntu. In fact in one challenge Ubuntu never
> got hacked.[/color]

eh!

[color=blue]
>
> Most people who have the pig called Vista (or XP) have never heard of
> Ubuntu. Hence, my noble and sacred mission to get out the good word and
> make the Internet a safer place. The pathetic things is that the win fans
> only have childish insults when they try to refute the facts about Windows
> and Linux.
>
> Alias[/color]

Noble? Don't think so. More like a pest.

Go stand on a box in your town square and preach ubuntuism. What a great
word that ubuntard is kinda rhymes with retard

"Canuck57" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:oxo1m.3775$oQ6.703@newsfe12.iad...[color=blue]
>
> "Bill" <forgotit@work.net> wrote in message
> news:zbo1m.16301$Xl4.2910@bignews5.bellsouth.net...[color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Linux has been tried retail...only Dell has the cojones to keep at it.
>>> Though, they don't offer any support...only a link to an ubuntard forum.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Ubuntard ...HA what a great word. Added to spell checker :-)
>>
>> How come that Alias idiot got out? Isnt Ubuntard secure????[/color]
>
> More secure than MS-Windows, in a Vacouver hacking challenge MS-Vista went
> down to the hackers before Ubuntu. In fact in one challenge Ubuntu never
> got hacked.
>[/color]


Yeah, an intentionally unpatched Flash Player flaw...that if the hackers had
wanted to, could have worked on the linux box.
What protects most linsux systems is most users never even get flash player
installed....they give up and go back to Vista or XP.

"Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
news:4a462ea5@news.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> "Canuck57" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:oxo1m.3775$oQ6.703@newsfe12.iad...[color=green]
>>
>> "Bill" <forgotit@work.net> wrote in message
>> news:zbo1m.16301$Xl4.2910@bignews5.bellsouth.net...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Linux has been tried retail...only Dell has the cojones to keep at it.
>>>> Though, they don't offer any support...only a link to an ubuntard
>>>> forum.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ubuntard ...HA what a great word. Added to spell checker :-)
>>>
>>> How come that Alias idiot got out? Isnt Ubuntard secure????[/color]
>>
>> More secure than MS-Windows, in a Vacouver hacking challenge MS-Vista
>> went down to the hackers before Ubuntu. In fact in one challenge Ubuntu
>> never got hacked.
>>[/color]
>
>
> Yeah, an intentionally unpatched Flash Player flaw...that if the hackers
> had wanted to, could have worked on the linux box.
> What protects most linsux systems is most users never even get flash
> player installed....they give up and go back to Vista or XP.[/color]

And once into the flash player it should have been jailed inside of IE, but
they bypassed the UAC. UAC is effective for users but not for coders. LOL.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:uoNF1j49JHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Ads wrote:[color=green]
>> I work in retail and am already getting asked all the usual questions
>> about Windows 7 ... Should i be telling people to upgrade when it comes
>> out, or should we wait a few months for all the 'teething problems' to be
>> ironed out?[/color]
>
>
> Actually, you should be telling them that, as you "work in retail," you're
> not qualified to offer advice on a technical subject, and that they should
> seek such advice from someone more qualified. I don't say this to sound
> mean or insulting, but if you were one of those rare retail workers with
> the requisite technical knowledge, you'd not have felt the need to ask the
> question.
>
>[/color]

Of course you meant to be mean and insulting.
Else, you would have kept your big typing mouth shut.

What point was there to that post but to be condescending?

"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:pmed459188mbkjq0q6is7st1n5mukg7vse@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:21:02 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Any customer who asks a technical question of a retail clerk is making
>>a very serious mistake. It's a rare computer sales clerk who knows
>>much of anything technical. Most computer sales people get their jobs
>>because they are willing to accept something very close to minimum
>>wage. If they had any real technical skill, they could very likely get
>>a much better paid job.[/color]
>
> But you're still not living in that "real world" he mentioned. People
> are still going to ask the OP the question, well advised or not.
>
> To the OP: Tell them that initial review of Win7 show that it cures
> many flaws in Vista and that it's generally faster - but that some
> experts advise waiting for the first service pack with any new OS.
>[/color]


To the OP: tell Bob plus to get bent.
That fudging moron works at Taco Bell.
Or at Toys R'nt Us.
Something in that line.

That's right helium Bob....you're a fukcing moron.

Ads wrote:[color=blue]
> I work in retail and am already getting asked all the usual questions
> about Windows 7 ... Should i be telling people to upgrade when it comes
> out, or should we wait a few months for all the 'teething problems' to
> be ironed out?[/color]

Naturally you flushed out the usual A-holes with such a question.
Disregard
snotty A**ed remarks, (To be expected from a few), and take in the
objective responses. I have to agree that unless YOU are the "boss," you
need to go along with what the boss(s) want you to say/recommend. Unless
you yourself have actually USED Win7, you have NO basis to recommend
anything. Reading this or that to formulate an opinion is only relying
on someone else's experience and THEIR opinion. Therefore, unless YOU
have actually used Win7, you cannot recommend anything at all, other
than what "the boss" wants you to recommend/say. BUT, even if you HAVE
used Win7, you are sill limited in response to customer's requests for
advisement, by what has been set fourth and allowed by your superiors.

As stated, a lot depends on what a customer likes, wants, and NEEDS. You
have someone that craves the cutting edge? ..Then go-for-it, sell
him/her the latest-greatest OS. Gotta do some questioning/inquiring to
determine if a customer really needs to upgrade to the latest or is just
fine where they are. ..But by all means, YOU must get educated and know
for YOURSELF what the differences are in the OS's. (If you really want
to be the expert.)Otherwise you cannot recommend anything, for you know
nothing about the subject. You are limited to what the "boss" wants of
course, but if you have first hand experience, you could, (carefully),
upstage even the boss.(Impress hopefully!)

As with other releases, it has been beneficial to just wait and see how
things go, and usually better off waiting for at least the first
"service pack." I have done the Beta testing, and now the "RC," and have
been impressed with some things, and disappointed with others. That's
just me and what I may like or dislike though. In general, I am liking
Win7 MUCH better than Vista.

G'day

"Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
news:4a461472@news.x-privat.org...[color=blue][color=green]
>> Ubuntu is selling quite well here at ALL the reputable computer stores.
>> Vista, OTOH, is being shunned like the plague.
>>[/color]
>
> Then I won't go to Spain.
>
> Ububutu should be included in boxes of Fruit-Loops.
> At least you get to eat Fruit-Loops
>
>[/color]

I heard that if you take an Ubuntard CD and $4.95 to any Starbucks you can
get Coffee.


If you just took the Ubuntard CD to Starbucks they will throw your ass out
the door.

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
> news:4a461472@news.x-privat.org...[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Ubuntu is selling quite well here at ALL the reputable computer stores.
>>> Vista, OTOH, is being shunned like the plague.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Then I won't go to Spain.
>>
>> Ububutu should be included in boxes of Fruit-Loops.
>> At least you get to eat Fruit-Loops
>>
>>[/color]
>
> I heard that if you take an Ubuntard CD and $4.95 to any Starbucks you can
> get Coffee.
>
>
> If you just took the Ubuntard CD to Starbucks they will throw your ass out
> the door.
>
>
>[/color]


And, Alias would still need to borrow the $4.95.