"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
news:MXNrh.97118$873.21018@fe06.news.easynews.com...[color=blue]
> Me, I'm going for the Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate UPGRADE Limited
> Numbered Signature Edition. The box isn't available for download. ;-)
>
> [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M2WPIQ[/url][/color]

I keep thinking that offering from Amazon is a joke.

Are you really willing to pay $10 for Bill Gates' signature? :-}

Scott wrote:.[color=blue]
>
> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
> hardware.[/color]

I have yet to see one copy of a full retail XP in Spain. All the
computer shops sell generic OEMs with NO hardware. In fact, I just
bought myself a copy of XP Pro SPB from NewEgg in the USA with NO
hardware. A friend of mine bought it and sent it to me by mail.

The hardware nonsense was dropped a long time ago in ALL countries.

Sooooo, it appears YOU need to get a clue regarding generic (DPS) OEM
licences.

Alias

[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Many others will opt for OEM copies since they are unlikely to want to
>> move the OS from machine to machine, so this deal is even more expensive.[/color]
>
> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
> hardware.
>
>[/color]


It maybe against the contract that the seller has with MS but I doubt
very seriously that there is a law on the books that makes it a crime.
Contract dispute is all.

The hardware requirement has been removed (some time ago).

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.ca> wrote in message
news:eooerk$ve7$1@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Scott wrote:.[color=green]
>>
>> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
>> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
>> hardware.[/color]
>
> I have yet to see one copy of a full retail XP in Spain. All the computer
> shops sell generic OEMs with NO hardware. In fact, I just bought myself a
> copy of XP Pro SPB from NewEgg in the USA with NO hardware. A friend of
> mine bought it and sent it to me by mail.
>
> The hardware nonsense was dropped a long time ago in ALL countries.
>
> Sooooo, it appears YOU need to get a clue regarding generic (DPS) OEM
> licences.
>
> Alias[/color]

Colin Barnhorst wrote:[color=blue]
> The hardware requirement has been removed (some time ago).[/color]

In the USA and maybe Canada. Not here. There never was a hardware
requirement.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.ca> wrote in message
> news:eooerk$ve7$1@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Scott wrote:.[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
>>> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
>>> hardware.[/color]
>>
>> I have yet to see one copy of a full retail XP in Spain. All the
>> computer shops sell generic OEMs with NO hardware. In fact, I just
>> bought myself a copy of XP Pro SPB from NewEgg in the USA with NO
>> hardware. A friend of mine bought it and sent it to me by mail.
>>
>> The hardware nonsense was dropped a long time ago in ALL countries.
>>
>> Sooooo, it appears YOU need to get a clue regarding generic (DPS) OEM
>> licences.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>[/color]

In message <MXNrh.97118$873.21018@fe06.news.easynews.com> Scott
<geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Me, I'm going for the Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate UPGRADE Limited
>Numbered Signature Edition. The box isn't available for download. ;-)
>
>[url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M2WPIQ[/url][/color]

I'll pay extra to NOT have the limited numbered signature edition.

--
He who laughs last thinks slowest!

In message <03C8E079-DDE5-450D-89FE-DEBC54535AEB@microsoft.com> "Colin
Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>The hardware requirement has been removed (some time ago).[/color]

At least one of my wholesalers still has the "* Only for purchase with
qualifying hardware, or by authorized Microsoft partners" or something
to that effect.

They never enforced it though, they'd just give you $10 off and throw in
a known-defective mouse for $10, or something equally stupid.

That being said, I don't buy OEM software through them anymore, could be
they just never updated the pricelist.

--
He who laughs last thinks slowest!

NewEgg is slow to update their OEM info also. It seems the prices get
updated PDQ but erroneous fine print lives on forever.

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:gmmvq2dtv88976t3hk7h4j8vf7lgdqf07d@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> In message <03C8E079-DDE5-450D-89FE-DEBC54535AEB@microsoft.com> "Colin
> Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>The hardware requirement has been removed (some time ago).[/color]
>
> At least one of my wholesalers still has the "* Only for purchase with
> qualifying hardware, or by authorized Microsoft partners" or something
> to that effect.
>
> They never enforced it though, they'd just give you $10 off and throw in
> a known-defective mouse for $10, or something equally stupid.
>
> That being said, I don't buy OEM software through them anymore, could be
> they just never updated the pricelist.
>
> --
> He who laughs last thinks slowest![/color]

Robert Blacher spake thusly on 1/18/2007 10:56 AM:[color=blue]
> "Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
> news:MXNrh.97118$873.21018@fe06.news.easynews.com...[color=green]
>> Me, I'm going for the Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate UPGRADE Limited
>> Numbered Signature Edition. The box isn't available for download. ;-)
>>
>> [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M2WPIQ[/url][/color]
>
> I keep thinking that offering from Amazon is a joke.[/color]

Oh it's no joke.

And it's being sold all over. Amazon isn't the only place to get it.

[url]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203931995&loc=105&sp=1[/url]

[url]http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=344270[/url]

[url]http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=vista%20signature%20edition[/url]

[color=blue]
>
> Are you really willing to pay $10 for Bill Gates' signature? :-}[/color]

That depends on what it costs. In this case it's only $10.00. And
actually, I'm more interested in the
numbered part than the signature part (since obviously he didn't sign
20,000 boxes).



--
Scott [url]http://angrykeyboartder.com[/url]

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

DevilsPGD spake thusly on 1/18/2007 1:52 PM:[color=blue]
> In message <MXNrh.97118$873.21018@fe06.news.easynews.com> Scott
> <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Me, I'm going for the Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate UPGRADE Limited
>> Numbered Signature Edition. The box isn't available for download. ;-)
>>
>> [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M2WPIQ[/url][/color]
>
> I'll pay extra to NOT have the limited numbered signature edition.[/color]

So buy the version of your choice and tear up a $10.00 bill. :-)

--
Scott [url]http://angrykeyboartder.com[/url]

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

caver1 spake thusly on 1/18/2007 11:47 AM:[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Many others will opt for OEM copies since they are unlikely to want
>>> to move the OS from machine to machine, so this deal is even more
>>> expensive.[/color]
>>
>> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
>> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
>> hardware.
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
> It maybe against the contract that the seller has with MS but I doubt
> very seriously that there is a law on the books that makes it a crime.
> Contract dispute is all.[/color]

Correct. My use of "legally" wasn't the right word, but you get the
idea. :-)

--
Scott [url]http://angrykeyboartder.com[/url]

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Alias spake thusly on 1/18/2007 11:39 AM:[color=blue]
> Scott wrote:.[color=green]
>>
>> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
>> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
>> hardware.[/color]
>
> I have yet to see one copy of a full retail XP in Spain. All the
> computer shops sell generic OEMs with NO hardware.[/color]

Most places here (BestBuy, CompUSA etc) only sell retail. Smaller shops
do sell OEM and then of course there are the online retailers.
[color=blue]
> In fact, I just
> bought myself a copy of XP Pro SPB from NewEgg in the USA with NO
> hardware. A friend of mine bought it and sent it to me by mail.[/color]

I've actually never bought any OEM software, because most of what I've
bought doesn't come in an OEM version, or I wasn't aware of an OEM version.[color=blue]
>
> The hardware nonsense was dropped a long time ago in ALL countries.[/color]

I stand corrected.
[color=blue]
> Sooooo, it appears YOU need to get a clue regarding generic (DPS) OEM
> licences.[/color]

And thanks to you, I have. :-)
--
Scott [url]http://angrykeyboartder.com[/url]

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Scott wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias spake thusly on 1/18/2007 11:39 AM:[color=green]
>> Scott wrote:.[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Most people have no clue what an "OEM" c0py is and if the retailer is
>>> selling it legally the person would also have to be buying qualifying
>>> hardware.[/color]
>>
>> I have yet to see one copy of a full retail XP in Spain. All the
>> computer shops sell generic OEMs with NO hardware.[/color]
>
> Most places here (BestBuy, CompUSA etc) only sell retail. Smaller shops
> do sell OEM and then of course there are the online retailers.
>[color=green]
> > In fact, I just
>> bought myself a copy of XP Pro SPB from NewEgg in the USA with NO
>> hardware. A friend of mine bought it and sent it to me by mail.[/color]
>
> I've actually never bought any OEM software, because most of what I've
> bought doesn't come in an OEM version, or I wasn't aware of an OEM version.[color=green]
>>
>> The hardware nonsense was dropped a long time ago in ALL countries.[/color]
>
> I stand corrected.
>[color=green]
>> Sooooo, it appears YOU need to get a clue regarding generic (DPS) OEM
>> licences.[/color]
>
> And thanks to you, I have. :-)[/color]

You're welcome ;-)

Alias

Alias spake thusly on 1/18/2007 5:24 PM:[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Sooooo, it appears YOU need to get a clue regarding generic (DPS) OEM
>>> licences.[/color]
>>
>> And thanks to you, I have. :-)[/color]
>
> You're welcome ;-)[/color]

On the other hand.....

[url]http://www.zipzoomfly.com/Microsoft_MS_OS.html[/url]

I guess they didn't get the memo. ;-)


--
Scott [url]http://angrykeyboartder.com[/url]

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Taking advantage of a possible loophole in Microsoft's policies is no more stealing than it is to take advantage of tax loopholes to save money on taxes.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message news:u5%23%23LAwOHHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
WOW!

I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm sure
he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal because
they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any difference.

Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.

Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
operating system if you could.

What has happened to right and wrong?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:edOA5%23rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It looks like it has been finalized.
>
> See here from CNET News:
> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>
> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
> for $50.00 per copy.
>
> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> [/color]