Hope they have their servers ready. Recall the massive hits to bandwidth
when RC1 hit the public.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message
news:BD8AF782-DFD9-448A-AED3-79038372A9E5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Quotes from the article:
> "The program is being offered only in the U.S. and Canada and only from
> Vista's January 30 mainstream launch through June 30."
>
> Bad news for the rest of the world then :(
>
> "Another option for getting Vista is to download it directly from
> Microsoft's online software site, Windows Marketplace. In a first,
> Microsoft is making the new releases of both Office and Windows available
> for download at their standard list prices. (CNET Networks, the publisher
> of News.com, is a partner in Windows Marketplace.)"
>
> This could be interesting.
>
>
> --
> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
> "Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message
> news:F9A899B6-343F-4F2D-A95D-596197B79F7D@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> That's good news indeed for families with multiple pcs :)
>>
>> --
>> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:edOA5%23rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> It looks like it has been finalized.
>>>
>>> See here from CNET News:
>>> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>>>
>>> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
>>> for $50.00 per copy.
>>>
>>> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Michael Cecil wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:34:40 -0500, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Somehow I doubt if you would get away with that. Hell, they are throwing you
>> a **** nice bone and you still want to cheat the company.
>>
>> I really feel sorry for people with low moral turpitude such as you possess.[/color]
>
> Thanks for insulting me.[/color]

Dick can't help himself. If someone disagrees with him or rubs him the
wrong way, his knee-jerk reaction is to be insulting.

Alias

I don't think it is cheating to take advantage of a scenario that might be permitted by Microsoft.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message news:%231YkVJsOHHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Somehow I doubt if you would get away with that. Hell, they are throwing you
a **** nice bone and you still want to cheat the company.

I really feel sorry for people with low moral turpitude such as you possess.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Michael Cecil" <macecil******.com> wrote in message
news:Y5WdnTKdjMAXmTLYnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:15:56 -0500, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>It looks like it has been finalized.
>>
>>See here from CNET News:
>>[url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>>
>>Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
>>for
>>$50.00 per copy.
>>
>>I think that is something that most everyone can accept![/color]
>
> So just buy that, then return all but one of the Homes for a total of $50.
> Hmmm...
> --
> Michael Cecil
> [url]http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/[/url]
> [url]http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/[/url]
> [url]http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/hackingvista/[/url] [/color]

It also increases the profits for Microsoft. Since they are selling it for the same price, the middle man is cut out, and there is not packaging, storage and shipping expense.
"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message news:uzwNyVsOHHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I agree. But, I'm sure that can't make retailers very happy-
which is why I thought they wouldn't be doing that. I had been
under the impression there was an "understanding" between
Microsoft and the major retailers about direct downloads.

Oh well, it is another option for the customer. That's a good thing.

-Michael


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:uNOHhOsOHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yes. A great convenience for Microsoft's customers.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:u$JyHKsOHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> <quote>
>> Another option for getting Vista is to download it directly from Microsoft's online software
>> site, Windows Marketplace. In a first, Microsoft is making the new releases of both Office
>> and Windows available for download at their standard list prices.
>> </quote.
>>
>> I wasn't aware this would be an option.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:edOA5%23rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> It looks like it has been finalized.
>>>
>>> See here from CNET News:
>>> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>>>
>>> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium for $50.00 per
>>> copy.
>>>
>>> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
> [/color]

It also smells since it is only retail. And since very few people buy the retail version, I don't see this as being a world beater of an offer.
"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy********.com> wrote in message news:B1A81481-4C2A-4AAB-8854-085933FE31A7@microsoft.com...
Richard,

I have mixed feelings about this offer. Why not offer it as "buy Home
Premium at full price and get two additional copies for $50 each."? Why
force someone to buy Ultimate to get the offer? Maybe an extra $170 in the
MS coffer? Why not offer Ultimate at full price and two additional licenses
for $75 each? Bundling two different versions just seems a little odd to me.
But that's just my POV. I'm not saying it's a rip-off or a bad deal... just
smells a little funny to me...

Thanks for posting the link.

Lang

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:edOA5%23rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It looks like it has been finalized.
>
> See here from CNET News:
> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>
> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
> for $50.00 per copy.
>
> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> [/color]

Of course not, they are paying the EU's fine against Microsoft.
"Brian W" <brian.NOSPAMwescombe@PLEASEntlworld.com> wrote in message news:7ZHrh.40106$RL5.34625@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:u$JyHKsOHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> <quote>
> Another option for getting Vista is to download it directly from
> Microsoft's online software site, Windows Marketplace. In a first,
> Microsoft is making the new releases of both Office and Windows available
> for download at their standard list prices.
> </quote.
>
> I wasn't aware this would be an option.
>[/color]
And thatsure won't be available outside the US either. Wouldn't want Euro
customers to get Vista at the US price would they!

William wrote:[color=blue]
> Of course not, they are paying the EU's fine against Microsoft.[/color]

False. Apple does the same thing and they have no fine. All the software
companies want to charge like that: $100 for USA, 100 pounds for the UK
and 100 euros for the eurozone. This is why I have friends in the USA
who buy my software for me and send it by Global Priority.

With your "logic", UK citizens are paying more of the fine than eurozone
denizens.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "Brian W" <brian.NOSPAMwescombe@PLEASEntlworld.com
> <mailto:brian.NOSPAMwescombe@PLEASEntlworld.com>> wrote in message
> news:7ZHrh.40106$RL5.34625@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net <mailto:u158627_emr@dslr.net>> wrote
> in message
> news:u$JyHKsOHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > <quote>
> > Another option for getting Vista is to download it directly from
> > Microsoft's online software site, Windows Marketplace. In a first,
> > Microsoft is making the new releases of both Office and Windows[/color]
> available[color=green]
> > for download at their standard list prices.
> > </quote.
> >
> > I wasn't aware this would be an option.
> >[/color]
> And thatsure won't be available outside the US either. Wouldn't want
> Euro
> customers to get Vista at the US price would they![/color]

"Michael Cecil" <macecil******.com> wrote in message
news:sKqdnQcIb5SQuTLYnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:36:06 -0500, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Why were you so quick to post what you did? The thought you posted never
>>even crossed my mind.[/color]
>
> Well, perhaps some of us think faster than others.
> --
> Michael Cecil
> [url]http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/[/url]
> [url]http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/[/url]
> [url]http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/hackingvista/[/url][/color]

LOL.

WOW!

I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm sure
he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal because
they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any difference.

Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.

Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
operating system if you could.

What has happened to right and wrong?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:edOA5%23rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It looks like it has been finalized.
>
> See here from CNET News:
> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>
> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
> for $50.00 per copy.
>
> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>[/color]

Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
> WOW!
>
> I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm
> sure he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal
> because they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any
> difference.
>
> Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.
>
> Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal
> the operating system if you could.
>
> What has happened to right and wrong?
>[/color]

And charging double in the UK and 50% more in the Eurozone is what? How
come you don't get on Microsoft's case for that, stealing from the
Europeans?

What has happened to right and wrong?

Alias

Microsoft issued a press release related to this subject late yesterday.
You can find it at:

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/jan07/01-17ConsumerOptionsPR.mspx[/url]

With regard to the "Family Discount Reward" MS says:

"To make it easier for households with multiple PCs to make the move to
Windows Vista, Microsoft is launching a limited-time offer for customers who
buy retail copies of Windows Vista Ultimate. From Jan. 30 through June 30,
the Windows Vista Family Discount will allow North American customers to
license two additional copies of Windows Vista Home Premium for use on other
PCs in the home at the reduced price of $49.99 each. Before completing the
order online, customers will need to enter one valid full or upgrade Windows
Vista Ultimate key from their retail boxed product. After eligibility is
verified online, the customer can purchase licenses to install Windows Vista
Home Premium on one or two additional Windows-based computers. The Windows
Vista Family Discount is available only in the U.S. and Canada. More
information is available at [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/FamilyOffer[/url] ."

Unfortunately, the link to [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/FamilyOffer[/url] doesn't
work. But, the language:

"Before completing the order online, customers will need to enter one valid
full or upgrade Windows Vista Ultimate key from their retail boxed product."

mentions qualifying for the Family Discount with an "UPGRADE" key. So, buy
Ultimate Upgrade for $259 or whatever and you end up with 3 licenses (2 for
Home Premium) for $359. That's better than the initial report which
suggested you had to buy a full retail version to qualify.

At least one other nugget in the press release: In the new program to buy
Windows Vista as a download from Windows Marketplace, it specifically
mentions only buying UPGRADE versions through this program but then,
thankfully, makes it clear that the 64-bit version is available. See the
section entitled "Windows Marketplace Adds Windows Vista to Its Virtual
Shelves." Given the confusion over what's in the upgrade boxes, at least
now those wanting to UPGRADE to the 64-bit version have a place to look.

I'm going to bite my tongue on any opinions for now and just stop here as a
public service. :-}







"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:edOA5#rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It looks like it has been finalized.
>
> See here from CNET News:
> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>
> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
> for $50.00 per copy.
>
> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>[/color]

Agreed. I know some will complain about this offer, and
it is kind of silly that Microsoft requires a user to buy the
Ultimate version in order to get two Home Premium versions
at the discount. It would make more sense and probably be
less confusing if the offer was 1 Ultimate and 2 discounted
Ultimates, or 1 Home Premium and 2 discounted Premiums.

However, I am glad Microsoft has finally shaken up its retail
pricing... it's about time. Also, if you really think about, Microsoft
probably upsets companies like Dell and HP. The easier and cheaper
Microsoft makes it to upgrade, it could have an impact on those
who had been thinking about just buying a new computer instead of
just the new OS. Some consumers may put that decision for a new
computer(s) off for awhile- that can't make Dell and HP very happy.

I can only wonder what additional "excitement" this will cause the
newsgroup. Dad or mom goes out and buys three copies of Vista,
and decides to upgrade all the computers the same day. Lawd have
mercy on these Vista newsgroups. :-)


-Michael

"William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message news:%23wPoTbvOHHA.780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
It also increases the profits for Microsoft. Since they are selling it for the same price, the
middle man is cut out, and there is not packaging, storage and shipping expense.
"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:uzwNyVsOHHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I agree. But, I'm sure that can't make retailers very happy-
which is why I thought they wouldn't be doing that. I had been
under the impression there was an "understanding" between
Microsoft and the major retailers about direct downloads.

Oh well, it is another option for the customer. That's a good thing.

-Michael


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:uNOHhOsOHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yes. A great convenience for Microsoft's customers.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:u$JyHKsOHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> <quote>
>> Another option for getting Vista is to download it directly from Microsoft's online[/color][/color]
software[color=blue][color=green]
>> site, Windows Marketplace. In a first, Microsoft is making the new releases of both Office
>> and Windows available for download at their standard list prices.
>> </quote.
>>
>> I wasn't aware this would be an option.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:edOA5%23rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> It looks like it has been finalized.
>>>
>>> See here from CNET News:
>>>[/color][/color][/color]
[url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium for $50.00 per
>>> copy.
>>>
>>> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Good catch, Robert.

I think it's great Microsoft is doing the download thing...
I don't think it's going to be great for this newsgroup.
Even though it will probably be a small percentage who
do that- a small percentage out of millions of users will
be a lot. Imagine, there were users during the beta stage
of Vista who called themselves "beta testers" and had no
idea what to do with the download once it was done or how
to properly burn it. Then, there were also users who just
couldn't get it to burn properly and had to reduce their burning
speed.

Something wicked this way comes....


-Michael

"Robert Blacher" <rblacher@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:2C410147-6875-4748-97F3-8398C991781E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Microsoft issued a press release related to this subject late yesterday. You can find it at:
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/jan07/01-17ConsumerOptionsPR.mspx[/url]
>
> With regard to the "Family Discount Reward" MS says:
>
> "To make it easier for households with multiple PCs to make the move to Windows Vista,
> Microsoft is launching a limited-time offer for customers who buy retail copies of Windows
> Vista Ultimate. From Jan. 30 through June 30, the Windows Vista Family Discount will allow
> North American customers to license two additional copies of Windows Vista Home Premium for
> use on other PCs in the home at the reduced price of $49.99 each. Before completing the order
> online, customers will need to enter one valid full or upgrade Windows Vista Ultimate key
> from their retail boxed product. After eligibility is verified online, the customer can
> purchase licenses to install Windows Vista Home Premium on one or two additional
> Windows-based computers. The Windows Vista Family Discount is available only in the U.S. and
> Canada. More information is available at [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/FamilyOffer[/url] ."
>
> Unfortunately, the link to [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/FamilyOffer[/url] doesn't work. But, the
> language:
>
> "Before completing the order online, customers will need to enter one valid full or upgrade
> Windows Vista Ultimate key from their retail boxed product."
>
> mentions qualifying for the Family Discount with an "UPGRADE" key. So, buy Ultimate Upgrade
> for $259 or whatever and you end up with 3 licenses (2 for Home Premium) for $359. That's
> better than the initial report which suggested you had to buy a full retail version to
> qualify.
>
> At least one other nugget in the press release: In the new program to buy Windows Vista as a
> download from Windows Marketplace, it specifically mentions only buying UPGRADE versions
> through this program but then, thankfully, makes it clear that the 64-bit version is
> available. See the section entitled "Windows Marketplace Adds Windows Vista to Its Virtual
> Shelves." Given the confusion over what's in the upgrade boxes, at least now those wanting
> to UPGRADE to the 64-bit version have a place to look.
>
> I'm going to bite my tongue on any opinions for now and just stop here as a public service.
> :-}
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:edOA5#rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> It looks like it has been finalized.
>>
>> See here from CNET News:
>> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>>
>> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium for $50.00 per copy.
>>
>> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

The Microsoft Press release that I linked to and quoted from below sounded
like it was written by lawyers. As I prove all the time in this group,
lawyers don't speak English. ;-}

Nick White of the Vista Team Blog has also posted the info in plain speak.
The link is:

[url]http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/17/multiple-announcments-today.aspx[/url]

"Windows Family Discount

Also, today we're announcing news that makes it easier and more economical
for those of you with multiple systems at home -- like many of you who read
this blog -- to upgrade to Windows Vista. If you have need for fewer than 5
licenses for home use, you can upgrade all of your home systems by taking
advantage of the Windows Vista Family Discount. (Volume licensing is the
way to go if you have need for more than 5 licenses.) This program will
also begin at our retail availability launch on 30 January.

The Windows Vista Family Discount was in part inspired by feedback from tech
enthusiasts like you who told us that previously it was less than convenient
to upgrade every node on their home networks.

We heard you loud and clear in planning the Windows Vista Family Discount.
Here's how it works:

Buy a retail copy of Windows Vista Ultimate (full or upgrade version)
Between 30 January - 30 June, order up to two copies of Windows Vista Home
Premium online
Pay only $49.99 for each copy of Windows Vista Home Premium
Valid in North America (US and Canada)
On 30 January, go here for details; we've also a special site for our
French-speaking customers."

Microsoft Watch, for example, got it completely wrong. They thought you
needed to buy the full $399 Ultimate version to qualify for the family
discount. And, that was how Mary originally leaked it in her blog. Well,
now we have it from the horse's mouth, so to speak (sorry, Nick, not calling
you a horse -- you've been a shining beacon of good info and
consumer-oriented response throughout this whole ordeal. Enjoy your bus
trip! lol)



"Robert Blacher" <rblacher@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:2C410147-6875-4748-97F3-8398C991781E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Microsoft issued a press release related to this subject late yesterday.
> You can find it at:
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/jan07/01-17ConsumerOptionsPR.mspx[/url]
>
> With regard to the "Family Discount Reward" MS says:
>
> "To make it easier for households with multiple PCs to make the move to
> Windows Vista, Microsoft is launching a limited-time offer for customers
> who buy retail copies of Windows Vista Ultimate. From Jan. 30 through June
> 30, the Windows Vista Family Discount will allow North American customers
> to license two additional copies of Windows Vista Home Premium for use on
> other PCs in the home at the reduced price of $49.99 each. Before
> completing the order online, customers will need to enter one valid full
> or upgrade Windows Vista Ultimate key from their retail boxed product.
> After eligibility is verified online, the customer can purchase licenses
> to install Windows Vista Home Premium on one or two additional
> Windows-based computers. The Windows Vista Family Discount is available
> only in the U.S. and Canada. More information is available at
> [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/FamilyOffer[/url] ."
>
> Unfortunately, the link to [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/FamilyOffer[/url] doesn't
> work. But, the language:
>
> "Before completing the order online, customers will need to enter one
> valid full or upgrade Windows Vista Ultimate key from their retail boxed
> product."
>
> mentions qualifying for the Family Discount with an "UPGRADE" key. So,
> buy Ultimate Upgrade for $259 or whatever and you end up with 3 licenses
> (2 for Home Premium) for $359. That's better than the initial report
> which suggested you had to buy a full retail version to qualify.
>
> At least one other nugget in the press release: In the new program to buy
> Windows Vista as a download from Windows Marketplace, it specifically
> mentions only buying UPGRADE versions through this program but then,
> thankfully, makes it clear that the 64-bit version is available. See the
> section entitled "Windows Marketplace Adds Windows Vista to Its Virtual
> Shelves." Given the confusion over what's in the upgrade boxes, at least
> now those wanting to UPGRADE to the 64-bit version have a place to look.
>
> I'm going to bite my tongue on any opinions for now and just stop here as
> a public service. :-}
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:edOA5#rOHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> It looks like it has been finalized.
>>
>> See here from CNET News:
>> [url]http://news.com.com/Microsoft+tries+to+spread+Vista+far+and+wide/2100-1016_3-6150933.html?tag=nefd.top[/url]
>>
>> Buy boxed Vista Ultimate edition and get 2 copies of Vista HOME Premium
>> for $50.00 per copy.
>>
>> I think that is something that most everyone can accept!
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:u5%23%23LAwOHHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> WOW!
>
> I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm
> sure he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal
> because they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any
> difference.
>[/color]

Oh, you're a psychologist?
[color=blue]
> Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.
>[/color]

Which comments in this thread are you referring to? The only one mentioning
stealing is you.

Something on your mind?
[color=blue]
> Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
> operating system if you could.
>[/color]

Why would we steal something if we aren't happy?

I don't like US Foreign Policy but haven't stole George Bush. Yet.

I don't like sprouts but I haven't stolen any.

In fact I can't think of any occasion where the fact I wasn't happy about
something reduced me to kleptomania. Perhaps you can point to sources who
can explain about this interesting social phenomenon.
[color=blue]
> What has happened to right and wrong?
>[/color]

You could regard being an apologist for an exploitative monoply as being
morally, if not legally, wrong.