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Old 05-02-2009, 05:50 PM
BarbNJ
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Vista Machine won't boot at all

My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will not
start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have a
recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I would
like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back up. I have
Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at all, I would
be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that I desperately
need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is capable of running from
the CD drive, but no joy there either.

I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view the
info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig hard
drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an upgrade from
XP.

Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many
photos of the grandkids).
Thanks

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Old 05-02-2009, 06:10 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all



BarbNJ wrote:[color=blue]
> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will
> not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have
> a recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I
> would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back
> up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at
> all, I would be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that
> I desperately need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is
> capable of running from the CD drive, but no joy there either.
>
> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view
> the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180
> gig hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an
> upgrade from XP.
>
> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many
> photos of the grandkids).
> Thanks[/color]


From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem,
but a hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the
CD drive and the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points
to a hardware failure. Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to
start up?
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:40 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all


"Hobo" <hobo@nospam.egn> wrote in message
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>
>
> BarbNJ wrote:[color=green]
>> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will
>> not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have
>> a recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I
>> would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back
>> up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at
>> all, I would be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that I
>> desperately need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is capable
>> of running from the CD drive, but no joy there either.
>>
>> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view
>> the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig
>> hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an
>> upgrade from XP.
>>
>> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many
>> photos of the grandkids).
>> Thanks[/color]
>
>
> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem,
> but a hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the CD
> drive and the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points to a
> hardware failure. Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to start
> up?[/color]
No, I don't get anything.
Barb

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Old 05-02-2009, 06:50 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all


"Hobo" <hobo@nospam.egn> wrote in message
news:daKdnW6_8NKccGHUnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> BarbNJ wrote:[color=green]
>> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will
>> not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have
>> a recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I
>> would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back
>> up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at
>> all, I would be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that I
>> desperately need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is capable
>> of running from the CD drive, but no joy there either.
>>
>> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view
>> the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig
>> hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an
>> upgrade from XP.
>>
>> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many
>> photos of the grandkids).
>> Thanks[/color]
>
>
> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem,
> but a hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the CD
> drive and the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points to a
> hardware failure. Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to start
> up?[/color]

I get a loud extra long beep.
That's it.

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Old 05-02-2009, 07:10 PM
Steve McGarrett
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all

On Sat, 2 May 2009 21:39:42 -0400, "BarbNJ" <beej231@comcast.net>
wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem,
>> but a hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the CD
>> drive and the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points to a
>> hardware failure. Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to start
>> up?[/color]
>
>I get a loud extra long beep.
>That's it.[/color]

Take it to a repair shop (NOT Geek Squad!). You have a major hardware
failure.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all

Barb
[color=blue]
>I get a loud extra long beep.
>That's it.[/color]

That means you have a major hardware failure as Steve posted above. What you can
possibly (no guarantee) try is to take out the Hard Drive and install it in another
computer as a Slave and see if you can take off your data or files that are
needed.( Might work )
Also you can try and Download from somebody else's computer the Linux Knoppix or
Ubuntu and try and boot with the those live Distros

But most probably you will need to take it to a professional shop and not to a big
store computer store
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"BarbNJ" <beej231@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Hobo" <hobo@nospam.egn> wrote in message
> news:daKdnW6_8NKccGHUnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> BarbNJ wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will not
>>> start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have a recovery
>>> disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I would like to get
>>> it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back up. I have Wubi Ubuntu
>>> installed and if I could get the thing started at all, I would be able to use it
>>> to make sure I can recover anything that I desperately need. I tried to start it
>>> with PC Linux OS which is capable of running from the CD drive, but no joy there
>>> either.
>>>
>>> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view the
>>> info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig hard
>>> drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an upgrade from XP.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many photos
>>> of the grandkids).
>>> Thanks[/color]
>>
>>
>> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem, but a
>> hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the CD drive and
>> the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points to a hardware failure.
>> Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to start up?[/color]
>
> I get a loud extra long beep.
> That's it.[/color]

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Old 05-02-2009, 08:50 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all



BarbNJ wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Hobo" <hobo@nospam.egn> wrote in message
> news:daKdnW6_8NKccGHUnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> BarbNJ wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it
>>> will not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives
>>> up. I have a recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start
>>> from there. I would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no
>>> new photos to back up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could
>>> get the thing started at all, I would be able to use it to make sure
>>> I can recover anything that I desperately need. I tried to start it
>>> with PC Linux OS which is capable of running from the CD drive, but
>>> no joy there either.
>>>
>>> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't
>>> view the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series
>>> with 180 gig hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista
>>> but it was an upgrade from XP.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too
>>> many photos of the grandkids).
>>> Thanks[/color]
>>
>>
>> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista
>> problem, but a hardware problem. The fact that you can't start
>> anything from the CD drive and the hard drive stops spinning when you
>> try to boot points to a hardware failure. Do you get a boot (BIOS)
>> screen when you try to start up?[/color]
>
> I get a loud extra long beep.
> That's it.[/color]

Ok, as others have indicated it is a hardware problem. From your
description of events you described I'm inclined to think that it is
probably a power supply failure. If your comfortable with tinkering
inside the computer you can try replacing it, or if you're not, then
take it to a computer repair shop and let them trouble shoot and repair
it. If it is in fact the power supply, then you will probably not lose
the data on your hard drive. If you take it to a shop, make it very
clear to them that you have data (photos) on there that you do not want
to lose if at all possible.

Good luck.




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Old 05-02-2009, 09:10 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all


Ok, look, one long beep is pretty serious. It's either bad
ram or a bad motherboard - can also sometimes be the power supply.

If you're comfortable playing with the insides you can replace
the ram and see if the problem goes away. Or remove it and see if the
code changes from "error" to "no ram" which will be well more than
one beep :-)


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Old 05-02-2009, 11:10 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all

As an example a Dell E-Machine with a continuous single long beep signifies a bad
MOBO. Since the OP did not say which make he has it is hard to say which hardware is
at fault since different makers of OEM E-machines have different codes

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"Hobo" <hobo@nospam.egn> wrote in message
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>
>
> BarbNJ wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "Hobo" <hobo@nospam.egn> wrote in message
>> news:daKdnW6_8NKccGHUnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> BarbNJ wrote:
>>>> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will not
>>>> start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have a recovery
>>>> disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I would like to get
>>>> it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back up. I have Wubi Ubuntu
>>>> installed and if I could get the thing started at all, I would be able to use
>>>> it to make sure I can recover anything that I desperately need. I tried to
>>>> start it with PC Linux OS which is capable of running from the CD drive, but no
>>>> joy there either.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view the
>>>> info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig hard
>>>> drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an upgrade from XP.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many photos
>>>> of the grandkids).
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem, but a
>>> hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the CD drive and
>>> the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points to a hardware failure.
>>> Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to start up?[/color]
>>
>> I get a loud extra long beep.
>> That's it.[/color]
>
> Ok, as others have indicated it is a hardware problem. From your description of
> events you described I'm inclined to think that it is probably a power supply
> failure. If your comfortable with tinkering inside the computer you can try
> replacing it, or if you're not, then take it to a computer repair shop and let
> them trouble shoot and repair it. If it is in fact the power supply, then you will
> probably not lose the data on your hard drive. If you take it to a shop, make it
> very clear to them that you have data (photos) on there that you do not want to
> lose if at all possible.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>[/color]

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Old 05-03-2009, 07:20 AM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all


"Steve McGarrett" <smcgarret@bookem.com> wrote in message
news:i9upv49cce97mregb4ojrg68jr1s9mjap2@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 2 May 2009 21:39:42 -0400, "BarbNJ" <beej231@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> From what you've described, it sounds like this is not a Vista problem,
>>> but a hardware problem. The fact that you can't start anything from the
>>> CD
>>> drive and the hard drive stops spinning when you try to boot points to a
>>> hardware failure. Do you get a boot (BIOS) screen when you try to start
>>> up?[/color]
>>
>>I get a loud extra long beep.
>>That's it.[/color]
>
> Take it to a repair shop (NOT Geek Squad!). You have a major hardware
> failure.[/color]

Before you take it to a repair shop. Open the case and reseat your memory
and your video card if it is not onboard. Check all connections power cables
and sata/ide. Then try and restart. Make sure you ground yourself before
touching anything in the case. Especially important if cold and dry where
you happen to be.

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Old 05-03-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all

BarbNJ wrote:[color=blue]
> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will
> not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have
> a recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I
> would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back
> up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at
> all, I would be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that
> I desperately need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is
> capable of running from the CD drive, but no joy there either.
>
> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view
> the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180
> gig hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an
> upgrade from XP.
>
> Any suggestions? ([/color]


Locate and repair your hardware failure. This has nothing to do with
any OS. (If you have data you must retrieve, slave the hard drive into
a different, working, computer to do so.)


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Old 05-04-2009, 02:50 PM
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all

So why don't you have a backup of your data? Sounds like your computer is
dying but your hard drive may be good.

So if your hard drive died you would be OK with losing all your data?

It's not IF your drive will die, it's WHEN.

Make backups people.


"BarbNJ" <beej231@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%236JYwf4yJHA.436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will
> not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have a
> recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I
> would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back
> up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at
> all, I would be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that I
> desperately need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is capable of
> running from the CD drive, but no joy there either.
>
> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view
> the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig
> hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an
> upgrade from XP.
>
> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many
> photos of the grandkids).
> Thanks[/color]


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Old 05-05-2009, 06:10 AM
Barb
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Re: Vista Machine won't boot at all

My hard drive didn't die. It was the video card which I replaced all by my
lonesome. I had backups but since I'm a casual user, I don't back up
frequently. The only things I would care about are pictures(important) and
documents(not really).
I'm a little spoiled by the fact that computers I bought in 1996 and 1999
still run just fine without a single component ever being replaced. This
certainly took me by surprise. I will back up a little more frequently.
Barb

"measekite Da Monkey" <mease3@daMonkey.org> wrote in message
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> So why don't you have a backup of your data? Sounds like your computer is
> dying but your hard drive may be good.
>
> So if your hard drive died you would be OK with losing all your data?
>
> It's not IF your drive will die, it's WHEN.
>
> Make backups people.
>
>
> "BarbNJ" <beej231@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%236JYwf4yJHA.436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> My Vista desktop took forever to shut down last night and today it will
>> not start at all. The hard drive spins briefly and then gives up. I have
>> a recovery disk the CD drive lights but it will not start from there. I
>> would like to get it up briefly to be sure I have no new photos to back
>> up. I have Wubi Ubuntu installed and if I could get the thing started at
>> all, I would be able to use it to make sure I can recover anything that I
>> desperately need. I tried to start it with PC Linux OS which is capable
>> of running from the CD drive, but no joy there either.
>>
>> I would love to give you more specifics but I can't since I can't view
>> the info, I can't. It is an E-machine, one of their T series with 180 gig
>> hard drive. It's got lots of RAM. I was running Vista but it was an
>> upgrade from XP.
>>
>> Any suggestions? (Sensible ones please. No rants about Linux or too many
>> photos of the grandkids).
>> Thanks[/color]
>
>[/color]

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