Suppose I am infected and don't know it?
"measekite Da Monkey" <mease@monkey.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:uUKJl.15683$pr6.408@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com...[color=green]
>> Explain how it hasn't happened yet.[/color]
>
> So if you don't have antivirus on your system, you won't know. Maybe you
> are already infected but you don't know it.
>
>[color=green]
>> "measekite Da Monkey" <mease@monkey.net> wrote in message
>> news:ZHKJl.9146$im1.1279@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:sLKJl.15678$pr6.15431@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>>> All those virus programs do is screw up XP or any OS. Keep your
>>>> computer clean, use safe hex, don't click on
>>>> unknown things and you won't get a virus. They may be in e-mails but if
>>>> you don't click on unknown items in e-mail you don't get a virus.
>>>
>>> So what happens when someone you know, sends you a document and that
>>> document is infected? It happens.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:7c%Jl.31225$ZP4.5753@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=blue]
> Suppose I am infected and don't know it?[/color]

Here is an idea. Why not install an antivirus software and see? HA HA HA HA

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
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>I have no intentions of starting or continuing any argument. I merely state
>facts.
> I have an external backup harddrive.
> I do NOT click on anything unknown.
> I do NOT use any virus programs or registry cleaners.
> I have NEVER had a virus.
> My system runs fast and error free. No surprises.
> No problems updating, no slowdowns. I use Windows firewall.
>[/color]

You think that logic is good? Wait until the real damage happens and you
won't be laughing then. If you open a KNOWN e-mail attachment from someone
you know, it could be infected. End of story.

measekite Da Monkey wrote:[color=blue]
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:tD_Jl.31220$ZP4.4621@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=green]
>> I have no intentions of starting or continuing any argument. I merely state
>> facts.
>> I have an external backup harddrive.
>> I do NOT click on anything unknown.
>> I do NOT use any virus programs or registry cleaners.
>> I have NEVER had a virus.
>> My system runs fast and error free. No surprises.
>> No problems updating, no slowdowns. I use Windows firewall.
>>[/color]
>
> You think that logic is good? Wait until the real damage happens and you
> won't be laughing then. If you open a KNOWN e-mail attachment from someone
> you know, it could be infected. End of story.
>
>
>[/color]

Unless, of course, you open it with Ubuntu.

Alias

"Alias" <iamalias@NUKEGmailTHIS.com> wrote in message
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> measekite Da Monkey wrote:[color=green]
>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>> news:tD_Jl.31220$ZP4.4621@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=darkred]
>>> I have no intentions of starting or continuing any argument. I merely
>>> state facts.
>>> I have an external backup harddrive.
>>> I do NOT click on anything unknown.
>>> I do NOT use any virus programs or registry cleaners.
>>> I have NEVER had a virus.
>>> My system runs fast and error free. No surprises.
>>> No problems updating, no slowdowns. I use Windows firewall.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You think that logic is good? Wait until the real damage happens and you
>> won't be laughing then. If you open a KNOWN e-mail attachment from
>> someone you know, it could be infected. End of story.
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Unless, of course, you open it with Ubuntu.
>
> Alias[/color]

But then your other programs won't work so Ubuntu is completely WORTHLESS.

What good would that do? I don't have any problems, all my e-mail friends
don't complain, none of my business
dealings have any problems. Net result------screw up my computer??? No way..
"measekite Da Monkey" <mease@monkey.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:7c%Jl.31225$ZP4.5753@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=green]
>> Suppose I am infected and don't know it?[/color]
>
> Here is an idea. Why not install an antivirus software and see? HA HA HA
> HA
>
>[/color]

My ISP uses virus detection. If like you say 'real damage' occurs I merely
restore from my backup.
Even that has never been needed.
"It could be infected"?????? Should I succumb to fear? I could have a
lightning strike which
completely destroys my computer.

"measekite Da Monkey" <mease@monkey.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:tD_Jl.31220$ZP4.4621@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=green]
>>I have no intentions of starting or continuing any argument. I merely
>>state facts.
>> I have an external backup harddrive.
>> I do NOT click on anything unknown.
>> I do NOT use any virus programs or registry cleaners.
>> I have NEVER had a virus.
>> My system runs fast and error free. No surprises.
>> No problems updating, no slowdowns. I use Windows firewall.
>>[/color]
>
> You think that logic is good? Wait until the real damage happens and you
> won't be laughing then. If you open a KNOWN e-mail attachment from
> someone you know, it could be infected. End of story.
>
>
>[/color]

Monkey,
How does that happen then? Clicking on "a KNOWN e-mail
attachment...etc" can end up being infected?
Viruses are sent by people who have malicious intent. If I sent someone a
'clean' attachment, it could not then arrive 'infected', could it?


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


"measekite Da Monkey" <mease@monkey.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:tD_Jl.31220$ZP4.4621@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=green]
>>I have no intentions of starting or continuing any argument. I merely
>>state facts.
>> I have an external backup harddrive.
>> I do NOT click on anything unknown.
>> I do NOT use any virus programs or registry cleaners.
>> I have NEVER had a virus.
>> My system runs fast and error free. No surprises.
>> No problems updating, no slowdowns. I use Windows firewall.
>>[/color]
>
> You think that logic is good? Wait until the real damage happens and you
> won't be laughing then. If you open a KNOWN e-mail attachment from
> someone you know, it could be infected. End of story.
>
>
>[/color]

"Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@gawab.com> wrote in message
news:eST$6gSyJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Monkey,
> How does that happen then? Clicking on "a KNOWN e-mail
> attachment...etc" can end up being infected?
> Viruses are sent by people who have malicious intent. If I sent someone a
> 'clean' attachment, it could not then arrive 'infected', could it?[/color]


Remember the "I Love You" virus that hit years ago. If you used Microsoft
Outlook, it would go through your address book and send infected emails to
every address. If it was your computer and you had Outlook, you would have
technically sent infected emails. You have no malicious intent but the
recipients would get infected once they opened the message.

"Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:OOvI40nyJHA.5480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@gawab.com> wrote in message
> news:eST$6gSyJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Monkey,
>> How does that happen then? Clicking on "a KNOWN e-mail
>> attachment...etc" can end up being infected?
>> Viruses are sent by people who have malicious intent. If I sent someone
>> a 'clean' attachment, it could not then arrive 'infected', could it?[/color]
>
>
> Remember the "I Love You" virus that hit years ago.[/color]

Yes! It was spread throughout the (largish) company I worked for
by...........



wait for it.........




A member of the IT DEPT!!!!!!!!

--
Asking a question?
Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)

I have read the replies to this questions. Interesting...
what about bitdefender? any comments on this one?

"Jane A Taber" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Can someone suggest a good antivirus program for Windows Vista?
>
> It is VERY important that the antivirus program does not consume a lot
> of system resources and slow down the computer like Norton- or Norman
> Antivirus does.
>
> I also did read the post below but did'nt get any clear suggestion here:
> [url]http://www.hd720i.com/free-edition-anti-virus-programs-156719.aspx[/url]
>[/color]

That's handy to know, as I have never heard of that particular virus before.
I will view, with a little suspicion, email attachments from even people I
know, from now on. Although, I must say it's got to be a very rare
occurrence, hasn't it? However, you HAVE warned me of a potential threat
that I had not previously been aware of, and I thank you for that 'measekite
Da Monkey'!


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:%23Eh$WAqyJHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:OOvI40nyJHA.5480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@gawab.com> wrote in message
>> news:eST$6gSyJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Monkey,
>>> How does that happen then? Clicking on "a KNOWN e-mail
>>> attachment...etc" can end up being infected?
>>> Viruses are sent by people who have malicious intent. If I sent someone
>>> a 'clean' attachment, it could not then arrive 'infected', could it?[/color]
>>
>>
>> Remember the "I Love You" virus that hit years ago.[/color]
>
> Yes! It was spread throughout the (largish) company I worked for
> by...........
>
>
>
> wait for it.........
>
>
>
>
> A member of the IT DEPT!!!!!!!!
>
> --
> Asking a question?
> Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
> your OS, Service Pack level
> and the FULL contents of any error message(s)[/color]

LOL! You can't make it up, can you?

I still remember the day when that one hit. Being the manager of the QA
department, I made it a habit to get in before the rest of the department
every morning. One of the people working for me had also came in early that
morning. There were no more than five people in the building at that time.
I got a few things done and then checked my email. I saw the suspicious
message and it came from a client who had no control over their network, we
had received some other infected messages from them in the past. The person
who worked for me that was in worked on the project for that client. I
immediately called her and told her not to open the message but at that
moment she opened it and then it began top spread. I placed a call to the
IT manager who was on his way in and we shut down all systems until
everything was checked. But many of our clients got the message since they
were in our Outlook address book. Fortunately, we managed with little
damage and so did our clients.

message news:%23Eh$WAqyJHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:OOvI40nyJHA.5480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@gawab.com> wrote in message
>> news:eST$6gSyJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Monkey,
>>> How does that happen then? Clicking on "a KNOWN e-mail
>>> attachment...etc" can end up being infected?
>>> Viruses are sent by people who have malicious intent. If I sent someone
>>> a 'clean' attachment, it could not then arrive 'infected', could it?[/color]
>>
>>
>> Remember the "I Love You" virus that hit years ago.[/color]
>
> Yes! It was spread throughout the (largish) company I worked for
> by...........
>
>
>
> wait for it.........
>
>
>
>
> A member of the IT DEPT!!!!!!!!
>
> --
> Asking a question?
> Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
> your OS, Service Pack level
> and the FULL contents of any error message(s)[/color]

That was a pretty nasty virus Tim. IIRC, there was a fimr in the UK that
had thousands and thousands of photos on their server destroyed - this virus
attacked JPEG files. They were either a stock photo company or archived
photos from client, I don't recall. But they also did not have adequate
backup from what I heard and lost a lot of those photos forever.

"Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@gawab.com> wrote in message
news:eHk0A61yJHA.2656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> That's handy to know, as I have never heard of that particular virus
> before. I will view, with a little suspicion, email attachments from even
> people I know, from now on. Although, I must say it's got to be a very
> rare occurrence, hasn't it? However, you HAVE warned me of a potential
> threat that I had not previously been aware of, and I thank you for that
> 'measekite Da Monkey'!
>
>
> ==
>
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.
>
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Eh$WAqyJHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:OOvI40nyJHA.5480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@gawab.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eST$6gSyJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Monkey,
>>>> How does that happen then? Clicking on "a KNOWN e-mail
>>>> attachment...etc" can end up being infected?
>>>> Viruses are sent by people who have malicious intent. If I sent
>>>> someone a 'clean' attachment, it could not then arrive 'infected',
>>>> could it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Remember the "I Love You" virus that hit years ago.[/color]
>>
>> Yes! It was spread throughout the (largish) company I worked for
>> by...........
>>
>>
>>
>> wait for it.........
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A member of the IT DEPT!!!!!!!!
>>
>> --
>> Asking a question?
>> Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
>> your OS, Service Pack level
>> and the FULL contents of any error message(s)[/color]
>
>[/color]