On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:16:09 -0400, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
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> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:[color=green]
> > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:29:56 -0500, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> John Barnett MVP wrote:
> >>> I've used the free version of AVG and Avast and found them both to be
> >>> good at their job. AVG does, however, have a much more user friendly
> >>> interface.
> >>>
> >>> As Planters has already suggested NOD32 is also a good all rounder. I'm
> >>> currently running Eset's Smart Security which includes NOD32 on my
> >>> Windows 7 system partition.
> >>>
> >> Crazy. Don't trust your machine to a free anti virus. Go to ebay and buy
> >> an opened box with the newest software.[/color]
> >
> >
> > I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
> > program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
> > single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
> > above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
> > and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
> >
> >[/color]
> You need to read the anti virus reviews out there.
>
> BTW: have you never noticed the features the paid versions have which
> the free versions lack?
>
> Anti virus is just not so expensive that you should be cheap here.[/color]


I've read many of them. Feel free to believe whatever you want. As I
said, I completely disagree with you.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Jane A Taber wrote:[color=blue]
> Can someone suggest a good antivirus program for Windows Vista?
>
> It is VERY important that the antivirus program does not consume a lot
> of system resources and slow down the computer like Norton- or Norman
> Antivirus does.
>
> I also did read the post below but did'nt get any clear suggestion here:
> [url]http://www.hd720i.com/free-edition-anti-virus-programs-156719.aspx[/url][/color]

I like PCTools antivirus for Vista. I also use Threatfire and Firewall
from PCTools. All free.

FredW wrote:
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>>> I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
>>> program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
>>> single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
>>> above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
>>> and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> To start your education about these things:
>> [url]http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/[/url][/color]
>
>
> And you believe commercials always tell the truth?
>[/color]

"Winston tastes good like a cigarette should!"

Alias

Hey Noel! How are you? Hope all is going well. :-)

Jan :)

"Noel Paton" <noeldp/spamless/@crashfixpc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:58:35 +0100, Jim <bojimbo261@aol.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:59:21 -0400, "webster72n"
>><webster72n******.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
>>>news:j886v4projhutgte9vim8uh0pmsl0p2s8v@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:57:12 -0400, "webster72n"
>>>> <webster72n******.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I hear they will withdraw support for the free Avast at the end of the
>>>>>year.
>>>>>What is the best alternative?
>>>>
>>>> Where did you hear that?
>>>
>>>In the ME NG and quite recently.[/color]
>>
>>Looked on their site , but couldn`t see anything ; anybody ?[/color]
> [url]http://www.avast.com/eng/system-requirements-avast-home.html[/url]
> "Note: The operating systems Windows 95/98/Me/NT4 will be supported
> until the end of 2009. "
> --
> Noel Paton
> [url]www.crashfixpc.co.uk[/url]
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi[/color]

"Alias" <iamalias@NUKEGmailTHIS.com> wrote in message
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> FredW wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
>>>> program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
>>>> single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
>>>> above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
>>>> and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> To start your education about these things:
>>> [url]http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/[/url][/color]
>>
>>
>> And you believe commercials always tell the truth?
>>[/color]
>
> "Winston tastes good like a cigarette should!"[/color]

There you go, perfect comment, let's have more of the same. <H>.
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>
> Alias[/color]

Pete wrote:[color=blue]
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:29:56 -0500, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>>> I've used the free version of AVG and Avast and found them both to
>>>> be good at their job. AVG does, however, have a much more user
>>>> friendly interface.
>>>>
>>>> As Planters has already suggested NOD32 is also a good all rounder.
>>>> I'm currently running Eset's Smart Security which includes NOD32 on
>>>> my Windows 7 system partition.
>>>>
>>> Crazy. Don't trust your machine to a free anti virus. Go to ebay and
>>> buy an opened box with the newest software.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
>> program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
>> single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
>> above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
>> and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
>>
>>[/color]
> To start your education about these things:
> [url]http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/[/url]
>
> -Pete[/color]


Hint:- They SELL things.

"Pete" <pete@dontspam.com> wrote in message
news:K8qJl.31032$ZP4.13320@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=blue]
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:29:56 -0500, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>>> I've used the free version of AVG and Avast and found them both to be
>>>> good at their job. AVG does, however, have a much more user friendly
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> As Planters has already suggested NOD32 is also a good all rounder. I'm
>>>> currently running Eset's Smart Security which includes NOD32 on my
>>>> Windows 7 system partition.
>>>>
>>> Crazy. Don't trust your machine to a free anti virus. Go to ebay and buy
>>> an opened box with the newest software.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
>> program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
>> single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
>> above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
>> and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
>>
>>[/color]
> You need to read the anti virus reviews out there.
>
> BTW: have you never noticed the features the paid versions have which the
> free versions lack?
>
> Anti virus is just not so expensive that you should be cheap here.[/color]

You need to know what you are talking about.

So you would go out and buy the most expensive Anti-virus solution out
there, based on the assumption that because it costs the most it must be the
best?

As Ken said, two of the worst performing suites are those produced by Norton
(Symantec) and McAfee, both of which you pay lots of money for. Neither of
these will protect your PC as well as Nod32 or AVG, and most of the
"features" you mention are gimmicks which slow down your PC and are
completely unnecessary.

Alister

You're digging a deep hole for yourself. Either that or you are very
gullible on advertising.
I use NO antivirus programs whatsoever, never had a virus, and have NO
computer problems.
"Pete" <pete@dontspam.com> wrote in message
news:cgqJl.31033$ZP4.29201@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...[color=blue]
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:29:56 -0500, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>>> I've used the free version of AVG and Avast and found them both to be
>>>> good at their job. AVG does, however, have a much more user friendly
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> As Planters has already suggested NOD32 is also a good all rounder. I'm
>>>> currently running Eset's Smart Security which includes NOD32 on my
>>>> Windows 7 system partition.
>>>>
>>> Crazy. Don't trust your machine to a free anti virus. Go to ebay and buy
>>> an opened box with the newest software.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
>> program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
>> single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
>> above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
>> and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
>>
>>[/color]
> To start your education about these things:
> [url]http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/[/url]
>
> -Pete[/color]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:24:07 -0400, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Ken Blake, MVP wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:29:56 -0500, Pete <pete@dontspam.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>>> I've used the free version of AVG and Avast and found them both to be
>>>> good at their job. AVG does, however, have a much more user friendly
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> As Planters has already suggested NOD32 is also a good all rounder. I'm
>>>> currently running Eset's Smart Security which includes NOD32 on my
>>>> Windows 7 system partition.
>>>>
>>> Crazy. Don't trust your machine to a free anti virus. Go to ebay and buy
>>> an opened box with the newest software.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I couldn't disagree with you more. The quality of an anti-virus
>> program has nothing to do with whether it is for sale or free. As a
>> single example, I think the freeware Avast (which John recommends
>> above) is one of the best available anti-virus programs, and Norton
>> and McAfee (which are for sale) are the two worst ones.
>>
>>[/color]
>To start your education about these things:
>[url]http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/[/url]
>
>-Pete[/color]

So , did they test any free ones ?

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:20 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
wrote:
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>You're digging a deep hole for yourself. Either that or you are very
>gullible on advertising.
>I use NO antivirus programs whatsoever, never had a virus, and have NO
>computer problems.[/color]

You'll learn.

What and how? Haven't had a virus since the first IBM DOS system.
How many have you had, and more importantly how did you get them?
"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:20 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>You're digging a deep hole for yourself. Either that or you are very
>>gullible on advertising.
>>I use NO antivirus programs whatsoever, never had a virus, and have NO
>>computer problems.[/color]
>
> You'll learn.[/color]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:26:28 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
wrote:
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>"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
>news:oblev418u282nj5t9mne36rv3qvjb2flct@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:20 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>You're digging a deep hole for yourself. Either that or you are very
>>>gullible on advertising.
>>>I use NO antivirus programs whatsoever, never had a virus, and have NO
>>>computer problems.[/color]
>>
>> You'll learn.[/color]
>[/color]

[Top post corrected]
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>What and how? Haven't had a virus since the first IBM DOS system.
>How many have you had, and more importantly how did you get them?[/color]

I don't get viruses. That doesn't mean I don't run into them. They
will be sent to you in emails from people you know and trust who
aren't careful. You will run across them at reputable web sites that
have been compromised. I run into the occasionally; my A/V program
stops them before they are a problem.

Running without an A/V makes you a disease carrier on the 'net. You
should do your civic duty and install an A/V.

All those virus programs do is screw up XP or any OS. Keep your computer
clean, use safe hex, don't click on
unknown things and you won't get a virus. They may be in e-mails but if you
don't click on unknown items in e-mail you don't get a virus.
"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:26:28 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
>>news:oblev418u282nj5t9mne36rv3qvjb2flct@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:20 -0500, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You're digging a deep hole for yourself. Either that or you are very
>>>>gullible on advertising.
>>>>I use NO antivirus programs whatsoever, never had a virus, and have NO
>>>>computer problems.
>>>
>>> You'll learn.[/color]
>>[/color]
>
> [Top post corrected]
>[color=green]
>>What and how? Haven't had a virus since the first IBM DOS system.
>>How many have you had, and more importantly how did you get them?[/color]
>
> I don't get viruses. That doesn't mean I don't run into them. They
> will be sent to you in emails from people you know and trust who
> aren't careful. You will run across them at reputable web sites that
> have been compromised. I run into the occasionally; my A/V program
> stops them before they are a problem.
>
> Running without an A/V makes you a disease carrier on the 'net. You
> should do your civic duty and install an A/V.
>[/color]

"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:sLKJl.15678$pr6.15431@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com...[color=blue]
> All those virus programs do is screw up XP or any OS. Keep your computer
> clean, use safe hex, don't click on
> unknown things and you won't get a virus. They may be in e-mails but if
> you don't click on unknown items in e-mail you don't get a virus.[/color]

So what happens when someone you know, sends you a document and that
document is infected? It happens.

Explain how it hasn't happened yet.
"measekite Da Monkey" <mease@monkey.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:sLKJl.15678$pr6.15431@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com...[color=green]
>> All those virus programs do is screw up XP or any OS. Keep your computer
>> clean, use safe hex, don't click on
>> unknown things and you won't get a virus. They may be in e-mails but if
>> you don't click on unknown items in e-mail you don't get a virus.[/color]
>
> So what happens when someone you know, sends you a document and that
> document is infected? It happens.
>
>[/color]