On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:14:15 -0500, Bill Anderson
<billanderson601******.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Vista works fine. The only thing wrong with it is that it's not a huge
>improvement over XP. Some cranky people who "upgraded" to Vista were
>disappointed because they had to do a lot of work finding drivers,
>fiddling with this hardware and that hardware to make it work as well as
>it did in XP, enduring User Account Control until they got smart and
>turned it off, learning a few new ways to do things, etc etc and so
>forth. Vista really does work fine. It just doesn't work some order of
>magnitude better than XP. So you love XP? Then there's no valid reason
>you shouldn't love Vista.[/color]

"not a huge improvement" ? It's a downgrade.

+Bob+ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:14:15 -0500, Bill Anderson
> <billanderson601******.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Vista works fine. The only thing wrong with it is that it's not a huge
>> improvement over XP. Some cranky people who "upgraded" to Vista were
>> disappointed because they had to do a lot of work finding drivers,
>> fiddling with this hardware and that hardware to make it work as well as
>> it did in XP, enduring User Account Control until they got smart and
>> turned it off, learning a few new ways to do things, etc etc and so
>> forth. Vista really does work fine. It just doesn't work some order of
>> magnitude better than XP. So you love XP? Then there's no valid reason
>> you shouldn't love Vista.[/color]
>
> "not a huge improvement" ? It's a downgrade.[/color]

It works at least as well as XP. The fact that it isn't unquestionably
better than XP doesn't make it a downgrade -- it just makes moving an
older computer from XP to Vista unnecessary, pointless, not worth the
trouble. But if it comes installed on a new computer, it'll work just
fine. It's nothing to be afraid of. It's also not worth seeking out in
hopes of improvement.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMsyndrome.me.uk> wrote in message
news:%23kh74LpnJHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Gigaflop <gigaflop@noun.com> wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> I don't make a habit of responding to ignorant trolls, such as
>>>> yourself.
>>>> I have had no problems with "slow file transfers" or anything else you
>>>> mentioned and your opinion is 100% inaccurate. I would not trade
>>>> Windows
>>>> Vista for any other O/S on the market today! Windows Vista works, and
>>>> works extremely well!
>>>
>>> Ur just another fan boy. Vistas sucks. Less features, less
>>> performance, more bugs, more incompatibilities.
>>>
>>> To the OP: Stick with XP if at all possible.[/color]
>>
>> Another idiot who doesn't know how Vista works.[/color]
>
>
> That's a very appropriate signature, Psycho. But you forgot to write
> anything?
>
> ss.
>[/color]

Shows how much you know, douche bag. Someone piss in your cornflakes?

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:13:52 -0500, Bill Anderson
<billanderson601******.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> "not a huge improvement" ? It's a downgrade.[/color]
>
>It works at least as well as XP. The fact that it isn't unquestionably
>better than XP doesn't make it a downgrade -- it just makes moving an
>older computer from XP to Vista unnecessary, pointless, not worth the
>trouble. But if it comes installed on a new computer, it'll work just
>fine. It's nothing to be afraid of. It's also not worth seeking out in
>hopes of improvement.[/color]

It has significant compatibility and driver issues. It has disk,
flash, and network speed issues. It has networking issues. It has
performance issues. None of the preceding issues exists in XP. It also
has reduced features.

I think that all told, that makes it a downgrade.

"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:p1c3r4l35f6qaidkhdd416c2t59q7vm85n@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:13:52 -0500, Bill Anderson
> <billanderson601******.com> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> "not a huge improvement" ? It's a downgrade.[/color]
>>
>>It works at least as well as XP. The fact that it isn't unquestionably
>>better than XP doesn't make it a downgrade -- it just makes moving an
>>older computer from XP to Vista unnecessary, pointless, not worth the
>>trouble. But if it comes installed on a new computer, it'll work just
>>fine. It's nothing to be afraid of. It's also not worth seeking out in
>>hopes of improvement.[/color]
>
> It has significant compatibility and driver issues. It has disk,
> flash, and network speed issues. It has networking issues. It has
> performance issues. None of the preceding issues exists in XP. It also
> has reduced features.
>
> I think that all told, that makes it a downgrade.
>[/color]


Then use linux, dingus.
Downgrade from DOS to linux.

+Bob+ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:25:32 -0800, "Gigaflop" <gigaflop@noun.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Ur just another fan boy. Vistas sucks. Less features, less
>>> performance, more bugs, more incompatibilities.
>>>
>>> To the OP: Stick with XP if at all possible.[/color]
>> Another idiot who doesn't know how Vista works.[/color]
>
> "flop" describes you well. "Gigaflop" is even more accurate.[/color]

**** if you're not sounding more and more like adam albright aka THE PIG!

On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:44:46 -0800, Frank <fab@nospm.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>+Bob+ wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:25:32 -0800, "Gigaflop" <gigaflop@noun.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Ur just another fan boy. Vistas sucks. Less features, less
>>>> performance, more bugs, more incompatibilities.
>>>>
>>>> To the OP: Stick with XP if at all possible.
>>> Another idiot who doesn't know how Vista works.[/color]
>>
>> "flop" describes you well. "Gigaflop" is even more accurate.[/color]
>
>**** if you're not sounding more and more like adam albright aka THE PIG![/color]

How do you keep all your sockpuppet personalities properly lined up?
It must be quite a chore.

On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:35:11 -0500, "Borne Aching"
<borneaching@moops.net> wrote:
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>"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
>news:p1c3r4l35f6qaidkhdd416c2t59q7vm85n@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:13:52 -0500, Bill Anderson
>> <billanderson601******.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> "not a huge improvement" ? It's a downgrade.
>>>
>>>It works at least as well as XP. The fact that it isn't unquestionably
>>>better than XP doesn't make it a downgrade -- it just makes moving an
>>>older computer from XP to Vista unnecessary, pointless, not worth the
>>>trouble. But if it comes installed on a new computer, it'll work just
>>>fine. It's nothing to be afraid of. It's also not worth seeking out in
>>>hopes of improvement.[/color]
>>
>> It has significant compatibility and driver issues. It has disk,
>> flash, and network speed issues. It has networking issues. It has
>> performance issues. None of the preceding issues exists in XP. It also
>> has reduced features.
>>
>> I think that all told, that makes it a downgrade.
>>[/color]
>
>
>Then use linux, dingus.
>Downgrade from DOS to linux.[/color]

On the desktop? No thanks. I prefer XP.

I have a related question. I'm running Vista with Service Pack. It is now
frequently freezing and "running fast." That is, it sounds like fans and
drives are running in hyper drive. There's nothing to do but unplug it.

I hope there's a fix, because this is hyper-annoying.

Jim


"Fred" wrote:
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> Is Vista really the horrible OS that I'm hearing about? All I hear is, "Stay away from Vista." I love XP, but you can't get it easily any more. I'm about ready to buy a MAC from what I'm hearing about the freezes, crashes, etc. of Vista. True or False?[/color]

"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58954E4C-8B31-40E2-8DBC-817F0B09A727@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I have a related question. I'm running Vista with Service Pack. It is now
> frequently freezing and "running fast." That is, it sounds like fans and
> drives are running in hyper drive. There's nothing to do but unplug it.
>
> I hope there's a fix, because this is hyper-annoying.
>[/color]

Machine specifications?
Did you buy the machine with Vista pre-installed or did you install it on a
machine that you had with XP or some other version of Windows?

--
Asking a question?
Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)

I have an HP that came with Vista.

"Gordon" wrote:
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>
> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:58954E4C-8B31-40E2-8DBC-817F0B09A727@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > I have a related question. I'm running Vista with Service Pack. It is now
> > frequently freezing and "running fast." That is, it sounds like fans and
> > drives are running in hyper drive. There's nothing to do but unplug it.
> >
> > I hope there's a fix, because this is hyper-annoying.
> >[/color]
>
> Machine specifications?
> Did you buy the machine with Vista pre-installed or did you install it on a
> machine that you had with XP or some other version of Windows?
>
> --
> Asking a question?
> Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
> your OS, Service Pack level
> and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
>
>[/color]

"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58954E4C-8B31-40E2-8DBC-817F0B09A727@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have a related question. I'm running Vista with Service Pack. It is now
> frequently freezing and "running fast." That is, it sounds like fans and
> drives are running in hyper drive. There's nothing to do but unplug it.
>
> I hope there's a fix, because this is hyper-annoying.
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Fred" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Is Vista really the horrible OS that I'm hearing about? All I hear is,
>> "Stay away from Vista." I love XP, but you can't get it easily any more.
>> I'm about ready to buy a MAC from what I'm hearing about the freezes,
>> crashes, etc. of Vista. True or False?[/color]
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature database 4063 (20090508) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> [url]http://www.eset.com[/url]
>
>
>[/color]


If you have recently installed the SP3 rollup, that will be your problem.

If the machine gives you time to un-install SP3, do it at your earliest
convenience. Your machine should stabilize having done the above..

Next, go to this HP website, read through it carefully, and then install the
HP update..

[url]http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericSoftwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=pv-60484-2&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en[/url]

OK, once done, you can now re-install the SP3 rollup..


--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]


__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4063 (20090508) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

[url]http://www.eset.com[/url]

If the fans etc are really speeding up I would be more inclined to look at
the power supply voltages. Software hangs won't cause the fans to go
haywire. Put a voltmeter on the 12 volts to the fans and see what it is
doing.

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ejdPR#P0JHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:58954E4C-8B31-40E2-8DBC-817F0B09A727@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>I have a related question. I'm running Vista with Service Pack. It is now
>> frequently freezing and "running fast." That is, it sounds like fans and
>> drives are running in hyper drive. There's nothing to do but unplug it.
>>
>> I hope there's a fix, because this is hyper-annoying.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> "Fred" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Is Vista really the horrible OS that I'm hearing about? All I hear is,
>>> "Stay away from Vista." I love XP, but you can't get it easily any
>>> more. I'm about ready to buy a MAC from what I'm hearing about the
>>> freezes, crashes, etc. of Vista. True or False?[/color]
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature database 4063 (20090508) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
>> [url]http://www.eset.com[/url]
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
> If you have recently installed the SP3 rollup, that will be your problem.
>
> If the machine gives you time to un-install SP3, do it at your earliest
> convenience. Your machine should stabilize having done the above..
>
> Next, go to this HP website, read through it carefully, and then install
> the HP update..
>
> [url]http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericSoftwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=pv-60484-2&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en[/url]
>
> OK, once done, you can now re-install the SP3 rollup..
>
>
> --
>
> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature database 4063 (20090508) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> [url]http://www.eset.com[/url]
>
>
>[/color]

I'd be more likely to look for lots of dust in the ventilation channels,
leading to overheating, and ultimately to further problems.

Especially if the computer is old or is a laptop. Old means lots of time to
accumulate dust in bad places. Laptop means narrow passages for the cooling
air, so it's easy to clog the passages up.

On Sun, 10 May 2009 11:11:48 -0400, Woody wrote:
[color=blue]
> If the fans etc are really speeding up I would be more inclined to look at
> the power supply voltages. Software hangs won't cause the fans to go
> haywire. Put a voltmeter on the 12 volts to the fans and see what it is
> doing.
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:ejdPR#P0JHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:58954E4C-8B31-40E2-8DBC-817F0B09A727@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I have a related question. I'm running Vista with Service Pack. It is now
>>> frequently freezing and "running fast." That is, it sounds like fans and
>>> drives are running in hyper drive. There's nothing to do but unplug it.
>>>
>>> I hope there's a fix, because this is hyper-annoying.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fred" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is Vista really the horrible OS that I'm hearing about? All I hear is,
>>>> "Stay away from Vista." I love XP, but you can't get it easily any
>>>> more. I'm about ready to buy a MAC from what I'm hearing about the
>>>> freezes, crashes, etc. of Vista. True or False?
>>>
>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>>> signature database 4063 (20090508) __________
>>>
>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.eset.com[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> If you have recently installed the SP3 rollup, that will be your problem.
>>
>> If the machine gives you time to un-install SP3, do it at your earliest
>> convenience. Your machine should stabilize having done the above..
>>
>> Next, go to this HP website, read through it carefully, and then install
>> the HP update..
>>
>> [url]http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericSoftwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=pv-60484-2&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en[/url]
>>
>> OK, once done, you can now re-install the SP3 rollup..
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
>> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature database 4063 (20090508) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
>> [url]http://www.eset.com[/url]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]


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