Dear All,
I hope somebody can help...i bought myself a new hard drive 500gb sata
2 and i have Vista Home Basic..I tried to do a fresh install of Windows
on the new drive and the windows seems to load ok until it gets to the
end of installation and my machine just restarts over and over and wont
load windows..just before it restarts everytime you can just see the
"blue screen of death" for a second before it restarts...any clues?
Also i tried to do a fresh install over my old hard drive and that wont
work either..after it says loading windows files..i get the blue screen
again




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paul bewsey

"paul bewsey" <paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com> wrote in message
news:paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com...[color=blue]
>
> Dear All,
> I hope somebody can help...i bought myself a new hard drive 500gb sata
> 2 and i have Vista Home Basic..I tried to do a fresh install of Windows
> on the new drive and the windows seems to load ok until it gets to the
> end of installation and my machine just restarts over and over and wont
> load windows..just before it restarts everytime you can just see the
> "blue screen of death" for a second before it restarts...any clues?
> Also i tried to do a fresh install over my old hard drive and that wont
> work either..after it says loading windows files..i get the blue screen
> again
>
>
>
>
> --
> paul bewsey[/color]


First off what is the stop error on the blue screen?

Otherwise:

There are probably several possible causes. The last time Windows failed to
install for me was because the computer it was installing on was slightly
overclocked and that didn't mesh well with its new video card. Setting the
computer's BIOS back to the facotry defaults solved the problem.

You can also check to see if all RAM and PCI cards are properly and firmly
seated, that cables are solidly plugged in and that there is an adequate
power supply for the computer.

You can also use the Windows disc to do a check of the RAM. When booting and
the Windows disc boots to its screen, there should be an option for Repair.
Click that instead of "Install". Then use the tools to check the integrity
of the computer's memory.

Yup, and so on ..

Saucy

Start menu - Settings - Control panel - System - Advance tab - under system
failure - untick "Automatically restart" - OK.

Then when it goes to blue screen it wont restart so you can read the
message. Post it back to the forum. I'm guessing it will be moaning about
drivers??

Is this a new machine, or new OS on a computer that previously had another
OS and you are still using the existing motherboard, in which case you may
need to update the bios and firmware to match the new OS first. The
motherboard manufacturers site will usually have these for download assuming
its compatible for vista.




"paul bewsey" <paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com> wrote in message
news:paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com...[color=blue]
>
> Dear All,
> I hope somebody can help...i bought myself a new hard drive 500gb sata
> 2 and i have Vista Home Basic..I tried to do a fresh install of Windows
> on the new drive and the windows seems to load ok until it gets to the
> end of installation and my machine just restarts over and over and wont
> load windows..just before it restarts everytime you can just see the
> "blue screen of death" for a second before it restarts...any clues?
> Also i tried to do a fresh install over my old hard drive and that wont
> work either..after it says loading windows files..i get the blue screen
> again
>
>
>
>
> --
> paul bewsey[/color]

This would work if the OP could boot to Windows...

Here's what I did once: I set up my camcorder pointing at the screen of the
computer, started the camera, then Windows. Then I waited for the crash.

It was not easy to read the screen on the video, but it *was* possible :-)

BTW, I didn't have the OP's problem of *instant* restart, but at the time I
didn't know about your (excellent) suggestion to prevent instant
restarting.

Question: are there logs that might help, if you tried to read the drive in
another computer? You'd have to know where to find the logs. (This is not
an easy solution...)

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:30:18 -0000, Spikey wrote:
[color=blue]
> Start menu - Settings - Control panel - System - Advance tab - under system
> failure - untick "Automatically restart" - OK.
>
> Then when it goes to blue screen it wont restart so you can read the
> message. Post it back to the forum. I'm guessing it will be moaning about
> drivers??
>
> Is this a new machine, or new OS on a computer that previously had another
> OS and you are still using the existing motherboard, in which case you may
> need to update the bios and firmware to match the new OS first. The
> motherboard manufacturers site will usually have these for download assuming
> its compatible for vista.
>
>
>
>
> "paul bewsey" <paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com> wrote in message
> news:paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com...[color=green]
>>
>> Dear All,
>> I hope somebody can help...i bought myself a new hard drive 500gb sata
>> 2 and i have Vista Home Basic..I tried to do a fresh install of Windows
>> on the new drive and the windows seems to load ok until it gets to the
>> end of installation and my machine just restarts over and over and wont
>> load windows..just before it restarts everytime you can just see the
>> "blue screen of death" for a second before it restarts...any clues?
>> Also i tried to do a fresh install over my old hard drive and that wont
>> work either..after it says loading windows files..i get the blue screen
>> again
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> paul bewsey[/color][/color]


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As he has seen the BSOD I assume it is actually booting to windows but
crashing so quickly its not visible??

Before I was better imformed I remember sitting with a note pad, and writing
a few words as the screen flashed before my eyes, gradually building up the
message as each restart happened. I never did get the full message. Some
kind soul here put me out of my misery and told me where to switch off the
restart.



"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:120fojw3gpc9z$.1hvfm1l8p5mpg.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
> This would work if the OP could boot to Windows...
>
> Here's what I did once: I set up my camcorder pointing at the screen of
> the
> computer, started the camera, then Windows. Then I waited for the crash.
>
> It was not easy to read the screen on the video, but it *was* possible :-)
>
> BTW, I didn't have the OP's problem of *instant* restart, but at the time
> I
> didn't know about your (excellent) suggestion to prevent instant
> restarting.
>
> Question: are there logs that might help, if you tried to read the drive
> in
> another computer? You'd have to know where to find the logs. (This is not
> an easy solution...)
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:30:18 -0000, Spikey wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Start menu - Settings - Control panel - System - Advance tab - under
>> system
>> failure - untick "Automatically restart" - OK.
>>
>> Then when it goes to blue screen it wont restart so you can read the
>> message. Post it back to the forum. I'm guessing it will be moaning about
>> drivers??
>>
>> Is this a new machine, or new OS on a computer that previously had
>> another
>> OS and you are still using the existing motherboard, in which case you
>> may
>> need to update the bios and firmware to match the new OS first. The
>> motherboard manufacturers site will usually have these for download
>> assuming
>> its compatible for vista.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "paul bewsey" <paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com> wrote in message
>> news:paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> I hope somebody can help...i bought myself a new hard drive 500gb sata
>>> 2 and i have Vista Home Basic..I tried to do a fresh install of Windows
>>> on the new drive and the windows seems to load ok until it gets to the
>>> end of installation and my machine just restarts over and over and wont
>>> load windows..just before it restarts everytime you can just see the
>>> "blue screen of death" for a second before it restarts...any clues?
>>> Also i tried to do a fresh install over my old hard drive and that wont
>>> work either..after it says loading windows files..i get the blue screen
>>> again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> paul bewsey[/color][/color]
>
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:31:07 -0000, Spikey wrote:
[color=blue]
> As he has seen the BSOD I assume it is actually booting to windows but
> crashing so quickly its not visible??
>
> Before I was better imformed I remember sitting with a note pad, and writing
> a few words as the screen flashed before my eyes, gradually building up the
> message as each restart happened. I never did get the full message. Some
> kind soul here put me out of my misery and told me where to switch off the
> restart.[/color]

Been there, done that ... and *hated* it :-)

That's why I did the camcorder thing...before I found out about the auto
restart checkbox.

I definitely get the feeling the OP can't get into Windows long enough to
make the change you suggested to the restart. It is the best (only!) way to
do it, and I try to remember to make that change as soon as I start running
a new or restored OS - before I need it, before I get trapped like the OP.

One might ask: why the hell is the other setting the default?

Is there a way to make the change from outside? Hook the drive to another
computer and edit the boot.ini? Anything?
[color=blue]
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:120fojw3gpc9z$.1hvfm1l8p5mpg.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> This would work if the OP could boot to Windows...
>>
>> Here's what I did once: I set up my camcorder pointing at the screen of
>> the
>> computer, started the camera, then Windows. Then I waited for the crash.
>>
>> It was not easy to read the screen on the video, but it *was* possible :-)
>>
>> BTW, I didn't have the OP's problem of *instant* restart, but at the time
>> I
>> didn't know about your (excellent) suggestion to prevent instant
>> restarting.
>>
>> Question: are there logs that might help, if you tried to read the drive
>> in
>> another computer? You'd have to know where to find the logs. (This is not
>> an easy solution...)
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:30:18 -0000, Spikey wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Start menu - Settings - Control panel - System - Advance tab - under
>>> system
>>> failure - untick "Automatically restart" - OK.
>>>
>>> Then when it goes to blue screen it wont restart so you can read the
>>> message. Post it back to the forum. I'm guessing it will be moaning about
>>> drivers??
>>>
>>> Is this a new machine, or new OS on a computer that previously had
>>> another
>>> OS and you are still using the existing motherboard, in which case you
>>> may
>>> need to update the bios and firmware to match the new OS first. The
>>> motherboard manufacturers site will usually have these for download
>>> assuming
>>> its compatible for vista.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "paul bewsey" <paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com> wrote in message
>>> news:paul.bewsey.3e20708@vistabanter.com...
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> I hope somebody can help...i bought myself a new hard drive 500gb sata
>>>> 2 and i have Vista Home Basic..I tried to do a fresh install of Windows
>>>> on the new drive and the windows seems to load ok until it gets to the
>>>> end of installation and my machine just restarts over and over and wont
>>>> load windows..just before it restarts everytime you can just see the
>>>> "blue screen of death" for a second before it restarts...any clues?
>>>> Also i tried to do a fresh install over my old hard drive and that wont
>>>> work either..after it says loading windows files..i get the blue screen
>>>> again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> paul bewsey[/color]
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color][/color]


--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message news:acjygk80qrfs.m1cmo5w39vjy$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:31:07 -0000, Spikey wrote:
>[color=green]
>> As he has seen the BSOD I assume it is actually booting to windows but
>> crashing so quickly its not visible??
>>
>> Before I was better imformed I remember sitting with a note pad, and writing
>> a few words as the screen flashed before my eyes, gradually building up the
>> message as each restart happened. I never did get the full message. Some
>> kind soul here put me out of my misery and told me where to switch off the
>> restart.[/color]
>
> Been there, done that ... and *hated* it :-)
>
> That's why I did the camcorder thing...before I found out about the auto
> restart checkbox.
>
> I definitely get the feeling the OP can't get into Windows long enough to
> make the change you suggested to the restart. It is the best (only!) way to
> do it, and I try to remember to make that change as soon as I start running
> a new or restored OS - before I need it, before I get trapped like the OP.
>
> One might ask: why the hell is the other setting the default?
>
> Is there a way to make the change from outside? Hook the drive to another
> computer and edit the boot.ini? Anything?
>[/color]

The registry entry that controls the rebooting is here:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CrashControl]
"AutoReboot"=dword:00000001

One way to alter it outside of Vista would be to boot from a BartPE type of boot disc that had
a registry editor included.
(If 'Autoreboot' is deleted Vista just re-writes it with a value of 1 as default).
You can also use the command 'reg add' from an elevated prompt:

reg add hklm\currentcontrolset\control\crashcontrol /v autoreboot /t reg_dword /d 0 /f

(reg /? and reg add /? for details on the command)

I can't get it to work from the command prompt on the Vista repair disk for some reason.
It says 'operation completed successfully' but the reboot box remains checked on the dialog box.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:54:26 -0000, Dave-UK wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message news:acjygk80qrfs.m1cmo5w39vjy$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:31:07 -0000, Spikey wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> As he has seen the BSOD I assume it is actually booting to windows but
>>> crashing so quickly its not visible??
>>>
>>> Before I was better imformed I remember sitting with a note pad, and writing
>>> a few words as the screen flashed before my eyes, gradually building up the
>>> message as each restart happened. I never did get the full message. Some
>>> kind soul here put me out of my misery and told me where to switch off the
>>> restart.[/color]
>>
>> Been there, done that ... and *hated* it :-)
>>
>> That's why I did the camcorder thing...before I found out about the auto
>> restart checkbox.
>>
>> I definitely get the feeling the OP can't get into Windows long enough to
>> make the change you suggested to the restart. It is the best (only!) way to
>> do it, and I try to remember to make that change as soon as I start running
>> a new or restored OS - before I need it, before I get trapped like the OP.
>>
>> One might ask: why the hell is the other setting the default?
>>
>> Is there a way to make the change from outside? Hook the drive to another
>> computer and edit the boot.ini? Anything?
>>[/color]
>
> The registry entry that controls the rebooting is here:
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CrashControl]
> "AutoReboot"=dword:00000001
>
> One way to alter it outside of Vista would be to boot from a BartPE type of boot disc that had
> a registry editor included.
> (If 'Autoreboot' is deleted Vista just re-writes it with a value of 1 as default).
> You can also use the command 'reg add' from an elevated prompt:
>
> reg add hklm\currentcontrolset\control\crashcontrol /v autoreboot /t reg_dword /d 0 /f
>
> (reg /? and reg add /? for details on the command)
>
> I can't get it to work from the command prompt on the Vista repair disk for some reason.
> It says 'operation completed successfully' but the reboot box remains checked on the dialog box.[/color]

Thanks for the info.

I should probably make a BartPE...

As of a few minutes ago, I do have a Vista Recovery Disk from vistax64.com.

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"SIW2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:f3aaa3f282f1a57446d9a154edd102fb@nntp-gateway.com...
[color=blue]
> Hello Gene,
>
> This might be of interest - free bootable registry editor
>
> 'PC Regedit, Create, delete and edit Windows registry key-values
> without Windows.' ([url]http://www.pcregedit.com/[/url])
>
> Hope it helps
>
> SIW2[/color]

Why is there no information on how to use this thing ?

I just get booted to a blank screen with an explorer-type
dialog box open at c:\windows\system32\config.
How are you to know what files to load if you have no idea
of the hive file names (as most people don't) ?

And on removing the disk and rebooting, Vista told me I now had
possible disk errors and ran chkdsk.

I have trimmed down an Ultimate Boot CD for Windows. The original iso is 650 M/B.
I have cut out a lot of the bloat like games, screensavers, multiboot screens, Dos, Linux
and pointless trial versions of antivirus software.
It is now a 350 M/B iso image with a regedit-style registry editor, network and usb support.
If you want to try it :

UBCD4Win_part1.rar (85.83 MB)
[url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MG8AVW48[/url]
UBCD4Win_part2.rar (32.67 MB)
[url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H08Q57TD[/url]

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:47:16 -0600, SIW2 wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gene E. Bloch;974415 Wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:54:26 -0000, Dave-UK wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> > >
>>> > "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:acjygk80qrfs.m1cmo5w39vjy$.dlg@xxxxxx> > > > >
>>> > >> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:31:07 -0000, Spikey wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Been there, done that ... and *hated* it :-)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> That's why I did the camcorder thing...before I found out about the
>>> > auto
>>> > >> restart checkbox.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I definitely get the feeling the OP can't get into Windows long
>>> > enough to
>>> > >> make the change you suggested to the restart. It is the best (only!)
>>> > way to
>>> > >> do it, and I try to remember to make that change as soon as I start
>>> > running
>>> > >> a new or restored OS - before I need it, before I get trapped like
>>> > the OP.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> One might ask: why the hell is the other setting the default?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Is there a way to make the change from outside? Hook the drive to
>>> > another
>>> > >> computer and edit the boot.ini? Anything?
>>> > >>> > > > >
>>> > The registry entry that controls the rebooting is here:
>>> >
>>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CrashControl]
>>> > "AutoReboot"=dword:00000001
>>> >
>>> > One way to alter it outside of Vista would be to boot from a
>>> BartPE type of boot disc that had
>>> > a registry editor included.
>>> > (If 'Autoreboot' is deleted Vista just re-writes it with a value
>>> of 1 as default).
>>> > You can also use the command 'reg add' from an elevated prompt:
>>> >
>>> > reg add hklm\currentcontrolset\control\crashcontrol /v autoreboot
>>> /t reg_dword /d 0 /f
>>> >
>>> > (reg /? and reg add /? for details on the command)
>>> >
>>> > I can't get it to work from the command prompt on the Vista
>>> repair disk for some reason.
>>> > It says 'operation completed successfully' but the reboot box
>>> remains checked on the dialog box. > > Thanks for the info.[/color]
>>
>> I should probably make a BartPE...
>>
>> As of a few minutes ago, I do have a Vista Recovery Disk from
>> vistax64.com.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom[/color]
>
>
> Hello Gene,
>
> This might be of interest - free bootable registry editor
>
> 'PC Regedit, Create, delete and edit Windows registry key-values
> without Windows.' ([url]http://www.pcregedit.com/[/url])
>
> Hope it helps
>
> SIW2[/color]

It *is* of interest (although I'm not the OP with the problem). It's
downloading as we speak :-)

Thanks...

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Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom