No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there any
way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these constant
W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?

You don't say whether a clean install or upgrade.
No hardware specs to see if your computer is capable of running Vista
properly.
We don't know what applications you are running.

You don't say what you have scanned your System with.
There are many applications to find different kinds of infections, spyware,
Malware, Keyloggers.

Post a proper question.

"freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?"
Exact number please!
--
Mad Mike


"I.C. Greenfields" wrote:
[color=blue]
> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
> IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
> reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there any
> way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these constant
> W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?
>
>[/color]

--->[color=blue]
> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF
> and IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat
> and reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is
> there any way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes
> these constant W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]

Are you learning impaired? This answser has been given to you many
times yet you still ask the same question. What par of:

UNINSTALL ZONEALARM

Don't you understand?

Questor

--->[color=blue]
> You don't say whether a clean install or upgrade.
> No hardware specs to see if your computer is capable of running Vista
> properly.
> We don't know what applications you are running.
>
> You don't say what you have scanned your System with.
> There are many applications to find different kinds of infections, spyware,
> Malware, Keyloggers.
>
> Post a proper question.
>
> "freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?"
> Exact number please![/color]

This guy has been asking the same question in several groups for the
last couple of days. We all answer him, but he chooses to ignore our
advice. He needs to uninstall ZoneAlarm until they fix the bug that
traps these programs and won't allow killing them.

Questor

Questor, thanks for that. I haven't come across his other posts.

Cheers.
--
Mad Mike


"Questor" wrote:
[color=blue]
> --->[color=green]
> > You don't say whether a clean install or upgrade.
> > No hardware specs to see if your computer is capable of running Vista
> > properly.
> > We don't know what applications you are running.
> >
> > You don't say what you have scanned your System with.
> > There are many applications to find different kinds of infections, spyware,
> > Malware, Keyloggers.
> >
> > Post a proper question.
> >
> > "freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?"
> > Exact number please![/color]
>
> This guy has been asking the same question in several groups for the
> last couple of days. We all answer him, but he chooses to ignore our
> advice. He needs to uninstall ZoneAlarm until they fix the bug that
> traps these programs and won't allow killing them.
>
> Questor
>[/color]

I.C. Greenfields wrote:[color=blue]
> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF
> and IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat
> and reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is
> there any way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes
> these constant W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]


If it's an OEM -- pre-installed version of Vista, it can be a bad
install of the O/S. If that's the case, you need to get back in touch
with the computer manufacture as you have a software warranty.


If it's not that, then you can try this.

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929833[/url]

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:12 -0600, "I.C. Greenfields"
<none@nospam.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC,[/color]


Exactly how (using what software) did you look for "infections of any
kind"?

[color=blue]
> yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
> IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
> reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there any
> way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these constant
> W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]



In my experience, on my own two Vista machines (one running Vista for
over two years, since rtm in November 2006) and on many others, Vista
has been absolutely stable, and has *never* crashed nor locked up.

So if your experience is different from mine, be aware that the
problem is not Vista, as you apparently believe, but is something
specific to *your* computer. Here are the possibilities:

1. Malware infection (despite what you think).

2. Hardware (or drivers for the hardware) that doesn't get along with
Vista.

3. Software that doesn't get along with Vista.

4. Some error you've made in setting up or configuring your machine.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

--->[color=blue]
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:12 -0600, "I.C. Greenfields"
> <none@nospam.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC,[/color]
>
>
> Exactly how (using what software) did you look for "infections of any
> kind"?
>
>[color=green]
>> yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
>> IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
>> reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there any
>> way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these constant
>> W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]
>
>
>
> In my experience, on my own two Vista machines (one running Vista for
> over two years, since rtm in November 2006) and on many others, Vista
> has been absolutely stable, and has *never* crashed nor locked up.
>
> So if your experience is different from mine, be aware that the
> problem is not Vista, as you apparently believe, but is something
> specific to *your* computer. Here are the possibilities:
>
> 1. Malware infection (despite what you think).
>
> 2. Hardware (or drivers for the hardware) that doesn't get along with
> Vista.
>
> 3. Software that doesn't get along with Vista.
>
> 4. Some error you've made in setting up or configuring your machine.
>
>[/color]

Ken, give up on this guy. He has been asked for that information
several times. No reply from him. And, he still makes these posts
again and again.

Questor

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:12:24 -0500, Questor <Questor@minimoe.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> --->[color=green]
> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:12 -0600, "I.C. Greenfields"
> > <none@nospam.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC,[/color]
> >
> >
> > Exactly how (using what software) did you look for "infections of any
> > kind"?
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >> yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
> >> IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
> >> reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there any
> >> way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these constant
> >> W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]
> >
> >
> >
> > In my experience, on my own two Vista machines (one running Vista for
> > over two years, since rtm in November 2006) and on many others, Vista
> > has been absolutely stable, and has *never* crashed nor locked up.
> >
> > So if your experience is different from mine, be aware that the
> > problem is not Vista, as you apparently believe, but is something
> > specific to *your* computer. Here are the possibilities:
> >
> > 1. Malware infection (despite what you think).
> >
> > 2. Hardware (or drivers for the hardware) that doesn't get along with
> > Vista.
> >
> > 3. Software that doesn't get along with Vista.
> >
> > 4. Some error you've made in setting up or configuring your machine.
> >
> >[/color]
>
> Ken, give up on this guy. He has been asked for that information
> several times. No reply from him. And, he still makes these posts
> again and again.[/color]


Thanks. I hadn't remembered that.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DE4391EE-10E3-4716-83B3-AB471309EEB8@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> You don't say whether a clean install or upgrade.
> No hardware specs to see if your computer is capable of running Vista
> properly.
> We don't know what applications you are running.[/color]

This is a HP and already had Windows Vista Home Premium installed.
[color=blue]
>
> You don't say what you have scanned your System with.[/color]

A-Squared, WindowsDefender (runs), Spybot, Ad-Aware, AVG and now Avira -
nothing was found and Task Monitor will not close "Not Responding" programs
of any kind.
[color=blue]
> There are many applications to find different kinds of infections,
> spyware,
> Malware, Keyloggers.
>
> Post a proper question.
>
> "freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?"
> Exact number please![/color]

At the office? About 8 of the 15 PCs run no better than W98. Also read
these forums and others. Lockups are not unique with Vista.
[color=blue]
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "I.C. Greenfields" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF
>> and
>> IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
>> reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there
>> any
>> way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these
>> constant
>> W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?
>>
>>[/color][/color]

"Questor" <Questor@minimoe.com> wrote in message
news:er5bXpIjJHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> --->[color=green]
>> You don't say whether a clean install or upgrade.
>> No hardware specs to see if your computer is capable of running Vista
>> properly.
>> We don't know what applications you are running.
>>
>> You don't say what you have scanned your System with.
>> There are many applications to find different kinds of infections,
>> spyware, Malware, Keyloggers.
>>
>> Post a proper question.
>>
>> "freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?"
>> Exact number please![/color]
>
> This guy has been asking the same question in several groups for the last
> couple of days. We all answer him, but he chooses to ignore our advice.
> He needs to uninstall ZoneAlarm until they fix the bug that traps these
> programs and won't allow killing them.[/color]

What BUG is trapping the programs and stopping Task manager from working and
causing the lockups? I did remove Zone Alarm this morning, but you failed
to tell me what to replace it with that monitors crap trying to phone home.
MS firewall allows anything and everything to connect to the net.
[color=blue]
>
> Questor[/color]

"Grand_Poobah" <whatever@yaddayadda.kom> wrote in message
news:%23DmkUlIjJHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> --->[color=green]
>> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF
>> and IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat
>> and reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is
>> there any way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes
>> these constant W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]
>
> Are you learning impaired? This answser has been given to you many times
> yet you still ask the same question. What par of:
>
> UNINSTALL ZONEALARM
>
> Don't you understand?[/color]

What part of I did uninstall it and am still waiting for you to recommend
another firewall that blocks unwanted outgoing connections.
[color=blue]
>
> Questor[/color]

"Jack the Ripper" <Jack@Ripper.com> wrote in message
news:u2qgbQJjJHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I.C. Greenfields wrote:[color=green]
>> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF
>> and IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat
>> and reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is
>> there any way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes
>> these constant W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]
>
>
> If it's an OEM -- pre-installed version of Vista, it can be a bad install
> of the O/S. If that's the case, you need to get back in touch with the
> computer manufacture as you have a software warranty.
>
>
> If it's not that, then you can try this.
>
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929833[/url][/color]

Thanks. I'll check it out. What firewall do you recommend that monitors
both ways?

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:9jl6p45kco6s8goa60qvt1iju1u4519s5r@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:12 -0600, "I.C. Greenfields"
> <none@nospam.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC,[/color]
>
>
> Exactly how (using what software) did you look for "infections of any
> kind"?[/color]

See long list above - including WindowsDefender.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
>> IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
>> reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there
>> any
>> way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these
>> constant
>> W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?[/color]
>
>
>
> In my experience, on my own two Vista machines (one running Vista for
> over two years, since rtm in November 2006) and on many others, Vista
> has been absolutely stable, and has *never* crashed nor locked up.[/color]

Then why is this one and and at least 7 in the office? Why were there no
problems with the old XP machines locking up?
[color=blue]
>
> So if your experience is different from mine, be aware that the
> problem is not Vista, as you apparently believe, but is something
> specific to *your* computer. Here are the possibilities:
>
> 1. Malware infection (despite what you think).
>
> 2. Hardware (or drivers for the hardware) that doesn't get along with
> Vista.[/color]

And how would I know which one is causing so many programs to lock up in
cluding IE7, MozillaFF, WMail, TaskManager etc?
[color=blue]
>
> 3. Software that doesn't get along with Vista.[/color]

And how can I know that? Everything freezes at one time or another. It's
like the BLUE screen of death without the blue screen.
[color=blue]
>
> 4. Some error you've made in setting up or configuring your machine.[/color]


It's out of the box so I don't know what you mean as far as configurations
and setting up.
[color=blue]
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]

"Questor" <Questor@minimoe.com> wrote in message
news:%2317by7KjJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> --->[color=green]
>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:12 -0600, "I.C. Greenfields"
>> <none@nospam.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> No infections of any kind can be found on this PC,[/color]
>>
>>
>> Exactly how (using what software) did you look for "infections of any
>> kind"?
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> yet MSMail, MozillaFF and IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed
>>> short of a reformat and reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable
>>> as W98 for us. Is there any way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone
>>> know what causes these constant W98 type freezes so many of us are
>>> enduring with Vista?[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> In my experience, on my own two Vista machines (one running Vista for
>> over two years, since rtm in November 2006) and on many others, Vista
>> has been absolutely stable, and has *never* crashed nor locked up.
>>
>> So if your experience is different from mine, be aware that the
>> problem is not Vista, as you apparently believe, but is something
>> specific to *your* computer. Here are the possibilities:
>>
>> 1. Malware infection (despite what you think).
>>
>> 2. Hardware (or drivers for the hardware) that doesn't get along with
>> Vista.
>>
>> 3. Software that doesn't get along with Vista.
>>
>> 4. Some error you've made in setting up or configuring your machine.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Ken, give up on this guy. He has been asked for that information several
> times. No reply from him. And, he still makes these posts again and
> again.[/color]

What do you mean no reply? If see replies I answer them. Some people have to
work for a living. I'm not online 24/7. <G>
[color=blue]
>
> Questor[/color]