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Old 02-14-2009, 04:39 PM
keepout@yahoo.com.invalid
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UAC killing a game

I have UAC on, but I can only run [error free] in the admin account.

I installed the game in the admin account with UAC on.

I contacted support. They said it has to find the data files in
C:\users\[Windows User name]\AppData\Roaming\Goodsol\FreeCell Wizard

1st time I looked after installing it, the files ONLY existed in the admin
account user section.

I copied the entire folder to my account. It changed nothing. Same error ini
error 0.
I don't think the game is writing to the data in the standard account folder.
I went to the admin account, added a 2nd user. it ran and saved to the admin
folder fine.

I can't easily install it with UAC on in the standard account.

I've tried toggling the run as admin in the properties section.
I tried installing as admin in the standard account. what was M$ thinkingwith
this Vista ?

Hackers still have no problem getting in. only thing UAC has done is makeit
next to impossible for the average user to use the machine.

FWIW: I just learned how to create a standard account without losing and
crashing everything..

round about way, but works much better than previous attempts to create a
standard account from an admin account.
I created an admin 2nd account from the basic admin account.
changed to the 2nd user, and changed the type of the original from admin to
standard.
1st time creating a standard account has taken with no problems.

Is there possibly a registry key I can toggle to get this thing to work under a
standard account ?
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:39 PM
Mick Murphy
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RE: UAC killing a game

"I can't easily install it with UAC on in the standard account"

What does the above statement by you mean?
Either you can install it, or you can't.
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"keepout******.com.invalid" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have UAC on, but I can only run [error free] in the admin account.
>
> I installed the game in the admin account with UAC on.
>
> I contacted support. They said it has to find the data files in
> C:\users\[Windows User name]\AppData\Roaming\Goodsol\FreeCell Wizard
>
> 1st time I looked after installing it, the files ONLY existed in the admin
> account user section.
>
> I copied the entire folder to my account. It changed nothing. Same error ini
> error 0.
> I don't think the game is writing to the data in the standard account folder.
> I went to the admin account, added a 2nd user. it ran and saved to the admin
> folder fine.
>
> I can't easily install it with UAC on in the standard account.
>
> I've tried toggling the run as admin in the properties section.
> I tried installing as admin in the standard account. what was M$ thinking with
> this Vista ?
>
> Hackers still have no problem getting in. only thing UAC has done is make it
> next to impossible for the average user to use the machine.
>
> FWIW: I just learned how to create a standard account without losing and
> crashing everything..
>
> round about way, but works much better than previous attempts to create a
> standard account from an admin account.
> I created an admin 2nd account from the basic admin account.
> changed to the 2nd user, and changed the type of the original from admin to
> standard.
> 1st time creating a standard account has taken with no problems.
>
> Is there possibly a registry key I can toggle to get this thing to work under a
> standard account ?
>[/color]
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:39 PM
Rick Rogers
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Re: UAC killing a game

Hi,

<keepout******.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:r172l453e95jr46mloi4om1v4302r3gbme@4ax.com...
[color=blue]
> I have UAC on, but I can only run [error free] in the admin account.[/color]

This indicates that the application is trying to write to a protected system
folder. Likely either the \Windows or \Program Files hierarchies. A standard
user will not have this level of privilege and the application itself is not
conforming to Vista's programming standards.
[color=blue]
> I installed the game in the admin account with UAC on.[/color]
[color=blue]
> I contacted support. They said it has to find the data files in
> C:\users\[Windows User name]\AppData\Roaming\Goodsol\FreeCell Wizard[/color]

That's good, as that's an allowed location.
[color=blue]
> 1st time I looked after installing it, the files ONLY existed in the admin
> account user section.[/color]

Again, this is normal. Applications run from within the user environment in
Vista, not the system environment. When the application runs, it should be
virtualized within that user's appdata directory. Running it in one account
should have no effect on any others as no account would natively have access
to another.
[color=blue]
> I copied the entire folder to my account. It changed nothing. Same error
> ini
> error 0.[/color]

Not surprising. That folder is owned by the account you copied it from. Your
account likely has insufficient privileges to access it. The folder should
be created by the application under your account when you initialize the
program the first time.
[color=blue]
> I don't think the game is writing to the data in the standard account
> folder.[/color]

It can't for the reason I just listed.
[color=blue]
> I went to the admin account, added a 2nd user. it ran and saved to the
> admin
> folder fine.[/color]

?
[color=blue]
> I can't easily install it with UAC on in the standard account.[/color]

Right click the setup file, choose 'run as administrator'.
[color=blue]
> I've tried toggling the run as admin in the properties section.[/color]

And the result was?
[color=blue]
> I tried installing as admin in the standard account. what was M$ thinking
> with
> this Vista ?[/color]

Developers were supposed to stop running applications from the system
environment years ago but they didn't. Now Microsoft is forcing them to by
blocking applications from just running willy-nilly. Continuing to do so is
a huge security risk. UAC is a PITA, but sloppy, lazy programming is
dangerous.
[color=blue]
> Hackers still have no problem getting in. only thing UAC has done is make
> it
> next to impossible for the average user to use the machine.[/color]

No, they are finding it more difficult as they now have to find a means of
tricking a user into acknowleding installation. No longer can malware
install itself sight-unseen by simply usurping a user's privilege level.
[color=blue]
> FWIW: I just learned how to create a standard account without losing and
> crashing everything..[/color]

If creating new accounts causes a system to crash, then you have additional
issues that need to be addressed. Likely malware.
[color=blue]
> round about way, but works much better than previous attempts to create a
> standard account from an admin account.
> I created an admin 2nd account from the basic admin account.
> changed to the 2nd user, and changed the type of the original from admin
> to
> standard.
> 1st time creating a standard account has taken with no problems.[/color]
[color=blue]
> Is there possibly a registry key I can toggle to get this thing to work
> under a
> standard account ?[/color]

Certainly, the process is described here:
[url]http://www.vista4beginners.com/Disable-UAC-for-certain-applications[/url]

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]

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