On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
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> On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:
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>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
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>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>>
>>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/[/url][/color]
>> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en[color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>>> here any more.
>>>>
>>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between
>>>> my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I
>>>> don't see any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their
>>>> business, and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul
>>>> Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>>
>>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>>
>>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>>
>>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>>> been doing?
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** Posted from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] **
>>>
>>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>>
>>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>>> with.
>>>
>>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.[/color]
>>
>> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
>> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.[/color]
>
> I respect other's freedom.
> I've stated so many times.[/color]

By making all sorts of exaggerated claims and posting anti-linux material
to a Linux advocacy group?

ray <ray@zianet.com> espoused:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
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>> On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [url]http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/[/url]
>>> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>>>> here any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between
>>>>> my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I
>>>>> don't see any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their
>>>>> business, and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul
>>>>> Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>>>
>>>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>>>> been doing?
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Posted from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] **
>>>>
>>>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>>>
>>>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>>>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>>>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>>
>>> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
>>> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.[/color]
>>
>> I respect other's freedom.
>> I've stated so many times.[/color]
>
> By making all sorts of exaggerated claims and posting anti-linux material
> to a Linux advocacy group?[/color]

Gary Stewart (Moshe goldfarbe), Tim Smith, Hadron (Schneider?) and
others have been hounding Roy Schestowitz anywhere they can, and have
started trying the same trick on my recently, too.

Gary does seem to be the ring-leader, which is perhaps a little
surprising, considering he seems to be the least intellectually endowed
of each of them, but it's interesting to note that they've gone to the
trouble of getting IDs for various discussion sites, and then gather in
groups in order to post their vitriol, misquotes, lies, misinformation,
slander and libel.

It would be much better, Ray, if you didn't give them a platform at all,
by just ignoring them. I very much doubt that they are any more welcome
in the Windows groups than they are in Cola, so I doubt you'd be making
any enemies there any more than you would here.

Ta,

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ray <ray@zianet.com> espoused:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [url]http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/[/url]
>>> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>>>> here any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between
>>>>> my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I
>>>>> don't see any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their
>>>>> business, and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul
>>>>> Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>>>
>>>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>>>> been doing?
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Posted from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] **
>>>>
>>>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>>>
>>>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>>>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>>>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>>
>>> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
>>> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.[/color]
>>
>> I respect other's freedom.
>> I've stated so many times.[/color]
>
> By making all sorts of exaggerated claims and posting anti-linux material
> to a Linux advocacy group?[/color]

Gary Stewart (Moshe goldfarbe), Tim Smith, Hadron (Schneider?) and
others have been hounding Roy Schestowitz anywhere they can, and have
started trying the same trick on my recently, too.

Gary does seem to be the ring-leader, which is perhaps a little
surprising, considering he seems to be the least intellectually endowed
of each of them, but it's interesting to note that they've gone to the
trouble of getting IDs for various discussion sites, and then gather in
groups in order to post their vitriol, misquotes, lies, misinformation,
slander and libel.

It would be much better, Ray, if you didn't give them a platform at all,
by just ignoring them. I very much doubt that they are any more welcome
in the Windows groups than they are in Cola, so I doubt you'd be making
any enemies there any more than you would here.

Ta,

--
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