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Old 10-26-2008, 04:04 AM
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RE: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem



"Vostman" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Hi all
>
> Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
> have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
> my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
> check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
> haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
> of thing.
>
> Any help is welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Vost
>
>
> --
> Vostman
>[/color]

YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:04 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:55:00 -0700, §????
<§ty??@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
> "Vostman" wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
> > have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
> > my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
> > check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
> > haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
> > of thing.
> >
> > Any help is welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Vost
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vostman
> >[/color]
>
> YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
> microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram[/color]



Sorry, this is not correct, on two counts:

1. He is only seeing 2GB (not 3) out of the 4GB he has. I'm not sure
what his problem is, but with as little as 2GB accessible, it's highly
unlikely that it's the issue you're alluding to.

2. It is *not* correct that "32bit can only support 3 GB of ram." The
actually number varies, depending on the configuration of your
computer. All 32-bit client versions of Windows (not just Vista) have
a 4GB address space. That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which
you can not go.

But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
range from as little as 2GB (it's extremely rare that it's that
little) to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around 3.1GB.

Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
address space to map it too.


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Old 10-26-2008, 04:04 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:55:00 -0700, §????
<§ty??@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
> "Vostman" wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
> > have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
> > my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
> > check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
> > haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
> > of thing.
> >
> > Any help is welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Vost
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vostman
> >[/color]
>
> YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
> microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram[/color]



Sorry, this is not correct, on two counts:

1. He is only seeing 2GB (not 3) out of the 4GB he has. I'm not sure
what his problem is, but with as little as 2GB accessible, it's highly
unlikely that it's the issue you're alluding to.

2. It is *not* correct that "32bit can only support 3 GB of ram." The
actually number varies, depending on the configuration of your
computer. All 32-bit client versions of Windows (not just Vista) have
a 4GB address space. That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which
you can not go.

But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
range from as little as 2GB (it's extremely rare that it's that
little) to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around 3.1GB.

Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
address space to map it too.


--
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:07 AM
Urbane Tiger
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Re: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem

Here's a few things to check in no particular order


are you sure they are 1G modules and not 512K modules

make sure the memory modules have the same speed etc.

if you bought matched 1G modules (which you should have done) ensure they
are properly placed in the mobo, usually in alternate slots

how much memory does the BIOS report

try turning off memory interleaving

--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox

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"§ŧŷṃÎ*" <§ty??@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:19E6C0BD-7E68-4A11-9449-B01EBEBF1DEE@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Vostman" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
>> have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
>> my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
>> check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
>> haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
>> of thing.
>>
>> Any help is welcome.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vost
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vostman
>>[/color]
>
> YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
> microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram[/color]

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:07 AM
Urbane Tiger
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Re: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem

Here's a few things to check in no particular order


are you sure they are 1G modules and not 512K modules

make sure the memory modules have the same speed etc.

if you bought matched 1G modules (which you should have done) ensure they
are properly placed in the mobo, usually in alternate slots

how much memory does the BIOS report

try turning off memory interleaving

--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox

--------------------------------------------------------------------------




"§ŧŷṃÎ*" <§ty??@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:19E6C0BD-7E68-4A11-9449-B01EBEBF1DEE@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Vostman" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
>> have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
>> my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
>> check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
>> haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
>> of thing.
>>
>> Any help is welcome.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vost
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vostman
>>[/color]
>
> YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
> microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram[/color]

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:07 AM
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Re: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem

If you have 4G in a fully populated mobo, little point in upgrading to 64bit
unless your going to replace at least half your RAM.

64bit Vista might actually "waste" a bit more than 32bit Vista - on a 4G
machine.



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:cce494llh3mqqtlvfai1efkn4a0i3l59i6@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:55:00 -0700, §????
> <§ty??@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Vostman" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
>> > have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
>> > my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
>> > check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
>> > haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
>> > of thing.
>> >
>> > Any help is welcome.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Vost
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Vostman
>> >[/color]
>>
>> YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
>> microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram[/color]
>
>
>
> Sorry, this is not correct, on two counts:
>
> 1. He is only seeing 2GB (not 3) out of the 4GB he has. I'm not sure
> what his problem is, but with as little as 2GB accessible, it's highly
> unlikely that it's the issue you're alluding to.
>
> 2. It is *not* correct that "32bit can only support 3 GB of ram." The
> actually number varies, depending on the configuration of your
> computer. All 32-bit client versions of Windows (not just Vista) have
> a 4GB address space. That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which
> you can not go.
>
> But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
> have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
> That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
> available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
> use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
> range from as little as 2GB (it's extremely rare that it's that
> little) to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around 3.1GB.
>
> Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
> RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
> address space to map it too.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:07 AM
Urbane Tiger
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Re: Vista Home Premium 32bit 4 gig Ram problem

If you have 4G in a fully populated mobo, little point in upgrading to 64bit
unless your going to replace at least half your RAM.

64bit Vista might actually "waste" a bit more than 32bit Vista - on a 4G
machine.



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:cce494llh3mqqtlvfai1efkn4a0i3l59i6@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:55:00 -0700, §????
> <§ty??@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Vostman" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > Recently I had a problem with my RAID and had to wipe every thing now I
>> > have everything installed, but I have 4 sticks of Ram (4x1 sticks) but
>> > my computer details display that I only have 2gig. I heard there is a
>> > check box I need to tick to use maximum memory but to be honest I
>> > haven't a clue where to start looking as I lack knowledge in this kind
>> > of thing.
>> >
>> > Any help is welcome.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Vost
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Vostman
>> >[/color]
>>
>> YOU MUST run 64bit Operation system If you doubt me then please call
>> microsoft they will explain 32bit can only support 3 GB of ram[/color]
>
>
>
> Sorry, this is not correct, on two counts:
>
> 1. He is only seeing 2GB (not 3) out of the 4GB he has. I'm not sure
> what his problem is, but with as little as 2GB accessible, it's highly
> unlikely that it's the issue you're alluding to.
>
> 2. It is *not* correct that "32bit can only support 3 GB of ram." The
> actually number varies, depending on the configuration of your
> computer. All 32-bit client versions of Windows (not just Vista) have
> a 4GB address space. That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which
> you can not go.
>
> But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
> have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
> That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
> available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
> use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
> range from as little as 2GB (it's extremely rare that it's that
> little) to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around 3.1GB.
>
> Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
> RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
> address space to map it too.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]

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