it also says i need my proof of purchase, but i have no idea of where i left
that. some of my activation key i just have stored on my computer. for older
operating systems and other software that i do not use anymore, i just keep
in my closet. some of the stuff i am just too lazy to get rid of. I still
have installation CDs for Windows CE and Internet Explorer 4.

I guess i could try to give them a call. i looked on thir site that u gave
me a link to. i already bookmarked it from earler from something else. it
says that i need a proof of purchase. if i cannot find that, than how do i
prove that i have a retail copy of windows 2000? and get it replaced by
them?

From,
Steven Wabik

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uj1hrCQ8IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Have you tried calling and asking? You've nothing to lose by doing so. It
> only states that software out of warranty "may" be unavailable. I know of
> a case some years ago that a consumer was able to get a replacement Win98
> disk well after support for it expired.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:40B4C2E9-2298-4A68-93FD-15003BA9DB28@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> you realize this page you gave me a link to, no longer applies to Windows
>> 2000.
>>
>> I believe microsoft started to mainsteam XP and vista a few years ago. it
>> seems they also discontinued replacementment services for windows 2000.
>> at least they still give monthly updates for this operating system.
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:O2XsWNK8IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> As you have a valid retail key, see:
>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[/url][ln];326246
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>>>
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OdUb1EG8IHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two
>>>>activation keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for it.
>>>>and that one was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was that
>>>>i could use either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet with XP
>>>>or vista, each activation key seems to be locked to a particular Windows
>>>>installation CD.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft
>>>> knows about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me a
>>>> copy of Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not worth
>>>> it for use on Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on my
>>>> tc4400. having two of the same tablet PC is usefull. besides microsoft
>>>> may snd me a copy of microsoft since I do business with them at times
>>>> through my company.
>>>>
>>>> From,
>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>> SPW.net Technologies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:O7n88zF8IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>>
>>>>> What you need is retail media with a Product Key. I doubt anyone will
>>>>> simply give it to you, you'll have to peruse sites that may still sell
>>>>> it (might try ebay) as it is no longer available through normal retail
>>>>> channels. The only legit sources for downloading the .iso's would be
>>>>> via MSDN or Technet subscriptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>>>> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons.
>>>>>>one reason was because I am not sure were to post this question.
>>>>>>Another reason is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating
>>>>>>system on Windows Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be
>>>>>>having an issue with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista
>>>>>> PC using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to
>>>>>> install Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an
>>>>>> issues saying that i cannot install the operating system because it
>>>>>> did not come with the computer or whatever. yet when i install it on
>>>>>> the physical machine itself, the computer will go through with the
>>>>>> installation just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD
>>>>>> i have for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows
>>>>>> where I can download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD
>>>>>> that will work with Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone
>>>>>> knows a place of where I could download an ISO of the installation CD
>>>>>> or if someone can just send me a physical installation CD for windows
>>>>>> 2000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
>>>>>> over Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less
>>>>>> hard disk space and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware
>>>>>> devices. I virtualized Windows XP earlier and one or two of the
>>>>>> devices that Wondows XP detected that Windows 2000 does not detect,
>>>>>> made it so that it kept switching back and forth between Vista and XP
>>>>>> whenever I used those particular hardware devices. another advantage
>>>>>> of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works faster, and plus it is
>>>>>> more compatible with older applications that Windows XP may or may
>>>>>> not be compatible with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
>>>>>> windows vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its
>>>>>> own good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From,
>>>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
illegal? it would be illegal if i was trying to get a activation key out of
one of you guys.

and by the way, its always a bad idea to go around asking for illegal copies
of software.

i'm not sure if my contacts with microsoft can help me with this particular
issue. i am only working with them on vista and windows 7 stuff. i guess i
can ask about windows 2000. it couldn't hurt.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ORQsp5P8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> What you want is something for free that isn't available (legally) for
> free. You have to pay for it. Period. Unless, as you suggest, you have a
> business relationship with MS and your contact(s) there can do something
> for you. Otherwise, for all that you're asking for, $100+ is the price you
> pay.
>
> PS -- Microsoft groups are a terrible place to go begging for illegal
> copies of Microsoft software.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> [url]http://grystmill.com[/url]
>
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:eSec70H8IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I know that....
>>
>> I was just hoping that someone could send me an ISO image of the Windows
>> 2000 installation CD. I already have a valide activation key that would
>> work with it.
>>
>> I have an OEM copy but OEM copy won't work with Microsoft Virtual
>> Machine. I need a Retail Installation CD. and I do not care what service
>> pack revision it is... and by the way I sadly lost my retail installation
>> CD for Windows 2000. if I still had the CD this post would not exist.
>>
>> at this point I'm starting to beta testing Windows 7. oddly at times I am
>> using virtual machine on the operating system. I'm virtualizing Windows
>> XP on that particular computer, but thats just for beta testing purposes.
>> on my primary machine, i wanna virtualize Windows 2000.
>>
>> From,
>> Steven Wabik
>> SPW.net Technologies
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23zfl7mH8IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You can get a Windows 2000 download from MSDN. You will need to subscribe
>> unless you already are.
>>
>> Also you might find someone selling one on EBay
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
>>> reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another
>>> reason
>>> is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system on
>>> Windows
>>> Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an issue with
>>> it.
>>>
>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista PC
>>> using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to install
>>> Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an issues
>>> saying
>>> that i cannot install the operating system because it did not come with
>>> the
>>> computer or whatever. yet when i install it on the physical machine
>>> itself,
>>> the computer will go through with the installation just fine.
>>>
>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD i
>>> have
>>> for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows where I
>>> can
>>> download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD that will work
>>> with
>>> Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone knows a place of where
>>> I
>>> could download an ISO of the installation CD or if someone can just send
>>> me
>>> a physical installation CD for windows 2000.
>>>
>>>
>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000 over
>>> Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard disk
>>> space
>>> and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware devices. I
>>> virtualized
>>> Windows XP earlier and one or two of the devices that Wondows XP
>>> detected
>>> that Windows 2000 does not detect, made it so that it kept switching
>>> back
>>> and forth between Vista and XP whenever I used those particular hardware
>>> devices. another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works
>>> faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that
>>> Windows
>>> XP may or may not be compatible with.
>>>
>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having. windows
>>> vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its own good.
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Steven Wabik
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

This may help:
[url]http://www.aspdeveloper.net/Virtual_PC/rn-739-39199_Can_we_generate_a_VHD_file_out_of_a_real_Hard_Disk.aspx[/url]

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]

"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:068B544F-0BF0-4232-B754-CE502CD4C32F@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> your right about the driver set thing. the nice thing is that the older
> operating systems would be better matched up with with virtual machine
> than the newer operating systems because of the hardware requirements. so
> its just a matter of converting a partition with a fresh install of the
> operating system. that way it would have no PC specific drivers on it.
>
> can you try to help me look into this option.
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OhOUSBQ8IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Not a bad idea, Steven, but unlikely to be able to happen. Reason is the
>> hardware. The installation is using one set of drivers and a system file
>> set built based on that, and I doubt that it would match the virtualized
>> hardware of VPC even if there were some way of building a .vhd file from
>> it.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>>
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:E1434A32-EFCC-4DBA-B986-2F58B347DE63@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> well, since no one can really help me get an ISO image of Windows 2000.
>>> than maybe you guess can help me with something else. i have another
>>> idea of how i could virtualize Windows 2000, but i am not sure if it is
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> well, right now i have a computer running windows 2000. my idea is to
>>> possibly convert the windows 2000 hard drive partition into a .vhd file
>>> for use with Microsoft virtual machine. my question is, is it even
>>> possible to do that? and if it is how do I do that? and will someone
>>> please help me with this?
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Steven Wabik
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23YqsJVJ8IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> If you have a "retail" key just borrow the Win2K retail install CD from
>>>> another person. Your key will work fine with the borrowed disk.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OdUb1EG8IHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two
>>>>>activation keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for it.
>>>>>and that one was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was that
>>>>>i could use either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet with XP
>>>>>or vista, each activation key seems to be locked to a particular
>>>>>Windows installation CD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft
>>>>> knows about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me a
>>>>> copy of Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not worth
>>>>> it for use on Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on my
>>>>> tc4400. having two of the same tablet PC is usefull. besides microsoft
>>>>> may snd me a copy of microsoft since I do business with them at times
>>>>> through my company.
>>>>>
>>>>> From,
>>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>> SPW.net Technologies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O7n88zF8IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you need is retail media with a Product Key. I doubt anyone will
>>>>>> simply give it to you, you'll have to peruse sites that may still
>>>>>> sell it (might try ebay) as it is no longer available through normal
>>>>>> retail channels. The only legit sources for downloading the .iso's
>>>>>> would be via MSDN or Technet subscriptions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>>>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>>>>> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons.
>>>>>>>one reason was because I am not sure were to post this question.
>>>>>>>Another reason is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy
>>>>>>>operating system on Windows Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I
>>>>>>>seem to be having an issue with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows
>>>>>>> Vista PC using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i
>>>>>>> try to install Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it
>>>>>>> gives me an issues saying that i cannot install the operating system
>>>>>>> because it did not come with the computer or whatever. yet when i
>>>>>>> install it on the physical machine itself, the computer will go
>>>>>>> through with the installation just fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation
>>>>>>> CD i have for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone
>>>>>>> knows where I can download an ISO image of a Windows 2000
>>>>>>> installation CD that will work with Microsoft Virtual PC. It would
>>>>>>> be nice if someone knows a place of where I could download an ISO of
>>>>>>> the installation CD or if someone can just send me a physical
>>>>>>> installation CD for windows 2000.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
>>>>>>> over Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less
>>>>>>> hard disk space and plus it does not detect certian types of
>>>>>>> hardware devices. I virtualized Windows XP earlier and one or two of
>>>>>>> the devices that Wondows XP detected that Windows 2000 does not
>>>>>>> detect, made it so that it kept switching back and forth between
>>>>>>> Vista and XP whenever I used those particular hardware devices.
>>>>>>> another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works
>>>>>>> faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that
>>>>>>> Windows XP may or may not be compatible with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
>>>>>>> windows vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its
>>>>>>> own good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From,
>>>>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

>since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system [color=blue]
>illegal?[/color]

It always has been. Ever read the EULA.?

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message news:975363DB-B99D-4BFC-932E-D6E183621CD5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
> illegal? it would be illegal if i was trying to get a activation key out of
> one of you guys.
>
> and by the way, its always a bad idea to go around asking for illegal copies
> of software.
>
> i'm not sure if my contacts with microsoft can help me with this particular
> issue. i am only working with them on vista and windows 7 stuff. i guess i
> can ask about windows 2000. it couldn't hurt.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ORQsp5P8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What you want is something for free that isn't available (legally) for
>> free. You have to pay for it. Period. Unless, as you suggest, you have a
>> business relationship with MS and your contact(s) there can do something
>> for you. Otherwise, for all that you're asking for, $100+ is the price you
>> pay.
>>
>> PS -- Microsoft groups are a terrible place to go begging for illegal
>> copies of Microsoft software.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> [url]http://grystmill.com[/url]
>>
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:eSec70H8IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>I know that....
>>>
>>> I was just hoping that someone could send me an ISO image of the Windows
>>> 2000 installation CD. I already have a valide activation key that would
>>> work with it.
>>>
>>> I have an OEM copy but OEM copy won't work with Microsoft Virtual
>>> Machine. I need a Retail Installation CD. and I do not care what service
>>> pack revision it is... and by the way I sadly lost my retail installation
>>> CD for Windows 2000. if I still had the CD this post would not exist.
>>>
>>> at this point I'm starting to beta testing Windows 7. oddly at times I am
>>> using virtual machine on the operating system. I'm virtualizing Windows
>>> XP on that particular computer, but thats just for beta testing purposes.
>>> on my primary machine, i wanna virtualize Windows 2000.
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Steven Wabik
>>> SPW.net Technologies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23zfl7mH8IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> You can get a Windows 2000 download from MSDN. You will need to subscribe
>>> unless you already are.
>>>
>>> Also you might find someone selling one on EBay
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...
>>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
>>>> reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another
>>>> reason
>>>> is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system on
>>>> Windows
>>>> Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an issue with
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista PC
>>>> using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to install
>>>> Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an issues
>>>> saying
>>>> that i cannot install the operating system because it did not come with
>>>> the
>>>> computer or whatever. yet when i install it on the physical machine
>>>> itself,
>>>> the computer will go through with the installation just fine.
>>>>
>>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD i
>>>> have
>>>> for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows where I
>>>> can
>>>> download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD that will work
>>>> with
>>>> Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone knows a place of where
>>>> I
>>>> could download an ISO of the installation CD or if someone can just send
>>>> me
>>>> a physical installation CD for windows 2000.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000 over
>>>> Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard disk
>>>> space
>>>> and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware devices. I
>>>> virtualized
>>>> Windows XP earlier and one or two of the devices that Wondows XP
>>>> detected
>>>> that Windows 2000 does not detect, made it so that it kept switching
>>>> back
>>>> and forth between Vista and XP whenever I used those particular hardware
>>>> devices. another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works
>>>> faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP may or may not be compatible with.
>>>>
>>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having. windows
>>>> vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its own good.
>>>>
>>>> From,
>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> [/color]
>[/color]

well, i looked at the web page and i saw something called WinImage. I think
that may work. i'll tell you how it goes.

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ud95RaQ8IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> This may help:
> [url]http://www.aspdeveloper.net/Virtual_PC/rn-739-39199_Can_we_generate_a_VHD_file_out_of_a_real_Hard_Disk.aspx[/url]
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:068B544F-0BF0-4232-B754-CE502CD4C32F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> your right about the driver set thing. the nice thing is that the older
>> operating systems would be better matched up with with virtual machine
>> than the newer operating systems because of the hardware requirements. so
>> its just a matter of converting a partition with a fresh install of the
>> operating system. that way it would have no PC specific drivers on it.
>>
>> can you try to help me look into this option.
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OhOUSBQ8IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Not a bad idea, Steven, but unlikely to be able to happen. Reason is the
>>> hardware. The installation is using one set of drivers and a system file
>>> set built based on that, and I doubt that it would match the virtualized
>>> hardware of VPC even if there were some way of building a .vhd file from
>>> it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>>>
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:E1434A32-EFCC-4DBA-B986-2F58B347DE63@microsoft.com...
>>>> well, since no one can really help me get an ISO image of Windows 2000.
>>>> than maybe you guess can help me with something else. i have another
>>>> idea of how i could virtualize Windows 2000, but i am not sure if it is
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> well, right now i have a computer running windows 2000. my idea is to
>>>> possibly convert the windows 2000 hard drive partition into a .vhd file
>>>> for use with Microsoft virtual machine. my question is, is it even
>>>> possible to do that? and if it is how do I do that? and will someone
>>>> please help me with this?
>>>>
>>>> From,
>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23YqsJVJ8IHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> If you have a "retail" key just borrow the Win2K retail install CD
>>>>> from another person. Your key will work fine with the borrowed disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OdUb1EG8IHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two
>>>>>>activation keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for
>>>>>>it. and that one was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was
>>>>>>that i could use either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet
>>>>>>with XP or vista, each activation key seems to be locked to a
>>>>>>particular Windows installation CD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft
>>>>>> knows about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me
>>>>>> a copy of Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not
>>>>>> worth it for use on Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on
>>>>>> my tc4400. having two of the same tablet PC is usefull. besides
>>>>>> microsoft may snd me a copy of microsoft since I do business with
>>>>>> them at times through my company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From,
>>>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>>> SPW.net Technologies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:O7n88zF8IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you need is retail media with a Product Key. I doubt anyone
>>>>>>> will simply give it to you, you'll have to peruse sites that may
>>>>>>> still sell it (might try ebay) as it is no longer available through
>>>>>>> normal retail channels. The only legit sources for downloading the
>>>>>>> .iso's would be via MSDN or Technet subscriptions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>>>>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>>>>>> My thoughts [url]http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com[/url]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons.
>>>>>>>>one reason was because I am not sure were to post this question.
>>>>>>>>Another reason is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy
>>>>>>>>operating system on Windows Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I
>>>>>>>>seem to be having an issue with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows
>>>>>>>> Vista PC using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i
>>>>>>>> try to install Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it
>>>>>>>> gives me an issues saying that i cannot install the operating
>>>>>>>> system because it did not come with the computer or whatever. yet
>>>>>>>> when i install it on the physical machine itself, the computer will
>>>>>>>> go through with the installation just fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation
>>>>>>>> CD i have for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone
>>>>>>>> knows where I can download an ISO image of a Windows 2000
>>>>>>>> installation CD that will work with Microsoft Virtual PC. It would
>>>>>>>> be nice if someone knows a place of where I could download an ISO
>>>>>>>> of the installation CD or if someone can just send me a physical
>>>>>>>> installation CD for windows 2000.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
>>>>>>>> over Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less
>>>>>>>> hard disk space and plus it does not detect certian types of
>>>>>>>> hardware devices. I virtualized Windows XP earlier and one or two
>>>>>>>> of the devices that Wondows XP detected that Windows 2000 does not
>>>>>>>> detect, made it so that it kept switching back and forth between
>>>>>>>> Vista and XP whenever I used those particular hardware devices.
>>>>>>>> another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works
>>>>>>>> faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that
>>>>>>>> Windows XP may or may not be compatible with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
>>>>>>>> windows vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its
>>>>>>>> own good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From,
>>>>>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

not 100% in detail. does it really say that u cannot do that?
"Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com> wrote in message
news:%23B4effQ8IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
>illegal?[/color]

It always has been. Ever read the EULA.?

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:975363DB-B99D-4BFC-932E-D6E183621CD5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
> illegal? it would be illegal if i was trying to get a activation key out
> of
> one of you guys.
>
> and by the way, its always a bad idea to go around asking for illegal
> copies
> of software.
>
> i'm not sure if my contacts with microsoft can help me with this
> particular
> issue. i am only working with them on vista and windows 7 stuff. i guess i
> can ask about windows 2000. it couldn't hurt.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ORQsp5P8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What you want is something for free that isn't available (legally) for
>> free. You have to pay for it. Period. Unless, as you suggest, you have a
>> business relationship with MS and your contact(s) there can do something
>> for you. Otherwise, for all that you're asking for, $100+ is the price
>> you
>> pay.
>>
>> PS -- Microsoft groups are a terrible place to go begging for illegal
>> copies of Microsoft software.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> [url]http://grystmill.com[/url]
>>
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:eSec70H8IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>I know that....
>>>
>>> I was just hoping that someone could send me an ISO image of the Windows
>>> 2000 installation CD. I already have a valide activation key that would
>>> work with it.
>>>
>>> I have an OEM copy but OEM copy won't work with Microsoft Virtual
>>> Machine. I need a Retail Installation CD. and I do not care what service
>>> pack revision it is... and by the way I sadly lost my retail
>>> installation
>>> CD for Windows 2000. if I still had the CD this post would not exist.
>>>
>>> at this point I'm starting to beta testing Windows 7. oddly at times I
>>> am
>>> using virtual machine on the operating system. I'm virtualizing Windows
>>> XP on that particular computer, but thats just for beta testing
>>> purposes.
>>> on my primary machine, i wanna virtualize Windows 2000.
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Steven Wabik
>>> SPW.net Technologies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23zfl7mH8IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> You can get a Windows 2000 download from MSDN. You will need to
>>> subscribe
>>> unless you already are.
>>>
>>> Also you might find someone selling one on EBay
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...
>>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
>>>> reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another
>>>> reason
>>>> is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system on
>>>> Windows
>>>> Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an issue with
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista
>>>> PC
>>>> using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to
>>>> install
>>>> Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an issues
>>>> saying
>>>> that i cannot install the operating system because it did not come with
>>>> the
>>>> computer or whatever. yet when i install it on the physical machine
>>>> itself,
>>>> the computer will go through with the installation just fine.
>>>>
>>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD i
>>>> have
>>>> for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows where I
>>>> can
>>>> download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD that will work
>>>> with
>>>> Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone knows a place of
>>>> where
>>>> I
>>>> could download an ISO of the installation CD or if someone can just
>>>> send
>>>> me
>>>> a physical installation CD for windows 2000.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
>>>> over
>>>> Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard disk
>>>> space
>>>> and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware devices. I
>>>> virtualized
>>>> Windows XP earlier and one or two of the devices that Wondows XP
>>>> detected
>>>> that Windows 2000 does not detect, made it so that it kept switching
>>>> back
>>>> and forth between Vista and XP whenever I used those particular
>>>> hardware
>>>> devices. another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it
>>>> works
>>>> faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP may or may not be compatible with.
>>>>
>>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
>>>> windows
>>>> vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its own good.
>>>>
>>>> From,
>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Steve,

as an appendix to my last post.
It should be worth noting that Microsoft can non longer supply Windows 2000
"due to the terms of Java-related settlements Microsoft made with Sun
Microsystems. This product is no longer available from Microsoft in any
form, but may be available through third-party resellers or Web sites." <--
from the MSDN download site.
So your only option is to buy one on e-bay or elsewhere. Microsoft cannot
provide you with an ISO or media (legally).

Mike Brannigan

"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
>reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another reason
>is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system on Windows
>Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an issue with it.
>
> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista PC
> using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to install
> Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an issues
> saying that i cannot install the operating system because it did not come
> with the computer or whatever. yet when i install it on the physical
> machine itself, the computer will go through with the installation just
> fine.
>
> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD i
> have for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows where
> I can download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD that will
> work with Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone knows a place
> of where I could download an ISO of the installation CD or if someone can
> just send me a physical installation CD for windows 2000.
>
>
> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000 over
> Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard disk
> space and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware devices. I
> virtualized Windows XP earlier and one or two of the devices that Wondows
> XP detected that Windows 2000 does not detect, made it so that it kept
> switching back and forth between Vista and XP whenever I used those
> particular hardware devices. another advantage of virtualizing Windows
> 2000 is that it works faster, and plus it is more compatible with older
> applications that Windows XP may or may not be compatible with.
>
> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having. windows
> vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its own good.
>
> From,
> Steven Wabik[/color]

"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:11C76741-5E3C-49CD-85F0-EFBA7161A7EC@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> not 100% in detail. does it really say that u cannot do that?[/color]


You may not distribute unauthorized copies of Microsoft operating systems.
So no one (other than Microsoft) can legitimately provide you with an copy
on CD or an ISO of a CD, irrespective of if you have the certificate of
authenticity for your original Windows 2000 CD etc..
If you have such a close relationship with Microsoft that you are already
engaged on the Windows "7" joint development program then just talk to your
internal contacts and they will be able to sort you out.


"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:11C76741-5E3C-49CD-85F0-EFBA7161A7EC@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> not 100% in detail. does it really say that u cannot do that?
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23B4effQ8IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
>>illegal?[/color]
>
> It always has been. Ever read the EULA.?
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:975363DB-B99D-4BFC-932E-D6E183621CD5@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
>> illegal? it would be illegal if i was trying to get a activation key out
>> of
>> one of you guys.
>>
>> and by the way, its always a bad idea to go around asking for illegal
>> copies
>> of software.
>>
>> i'm not sure if my contacts with microsoft can help me with this
>> particular
>> issue. i am only working with them on vista and windows 7 stuff. i guess
>> i
>> can ask about windows 2000. it couldn't hurt.
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:ORQsp5P8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> What you want is something for free that isn't available (legally) for
>>> free. You have to pay for it. Period. Unless, as you suggest, you have a
>>> business relationship with MS and your contact(s) there can do something
>>> for you. Otherwise, for all that you're asking for, $100+ is the price
>>> you
>>> pay.
>>>
>>> PS -- Microsoft groups are a terrible place to go begging for illegal
>>> copies of Microsoft software.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> [url]http://grystmill.com[/url]
>>>
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eSec70H8IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I know that....
>>>>
>>>> I was just hoping that someone could send me an ISO image of the
>>>> Windows
>>>> 2000 installation CD. I already have a valide activation key that would
>>>> work with it.
>>>>
>>>> I have an OEM copy but OEM copy won't work with Microsoft Virtual
>>>> Machine. I need a Retail Installation CD. and I do not care what
>>>> service
>>>> pack revision it is... and by the way I sadly lost my retail
>>>> installation
>>>> CD for Windows 2000. if I still had the CD this post would not exist.
>>>>
>>>> at this point I'm starting to beta testing Windows 7. oddly at times I
>>>> am
>>>> using virtual machine on the operating system. I'm virtualizing Windows
>>>> XP on that particular computer, but thats just for beta testing
>>>> purposes.
>>>> on my primary machine, i wanna virtualize Windows 2000.
>>>>
>>>> From,
>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>> SPW.net Technologies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23zfl7mH8IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> You can get a Windows 2000 download from MSDN. You will need to
>>>> subscribe
>>>> unless you already are.
>>>>
>>>> Also you might find someone selling one on EBay
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>>
>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:CFC2596A-2DF9-4700-B58D-F634FDA8BFF1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
>>>>> reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another
>>>>> reason
>>>>> is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system on
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an issue with
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista
>>>>> PC
>>>>> using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to
>>>>> install
>>>>> Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an issues
>>>>> saying
>>>>> that i cannot install the operating system because it did not come
>>>>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>> computer or whatever. yet when i install it on the physical machine
>>>>> itself,
>>>>> the computer will go through with the installation just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD
>>>>> i
>>>>> have
>>>>> for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows where I
>>>>> can
>>>>> download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD that will work
>>>>> with
>>>>> Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone knows a place of
>>>>> where
>>>>> I
>>>>> could download an ISO of the installation CD or if someone can just
>>>>> send
>>>>> me
>>>>> a physical installation CD for windows 2000.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
>>>>> over
>>>>> Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard disk
>>>>> space
>>>>> and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware devices. I
>>>>> virtualized
>>>>> Windows XP earlier and one or two of the devices that Wondows XP
>>>>> detected
>>>>> that Windows 2000 does not detect, made it so that it kept switching
>>>>> back
>>>>> and forth between Vista and XP whenever I used those particular
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> devices. another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it
>>>>> works
>>>>> faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> XP may or may not be compatible with.
>>>>>
>>>>> so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
>>>>> windows
>>>>> vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its own good.
>>>>>
>>>>> From,
>>>>> Steven Wabik
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]