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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Mike Hall - MVP wrote: > "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message > news:WcudncMa6ttKcPnVnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d@giganews.com ... >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:59:43 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >> >>> ":: Alias ::" <iamaliasTAKE******THISOUT.com> wrote in message >>> news:g42mb4$u3p$1@aioe.org... >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >>>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason. >>>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that will >>>>> slow your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>>> >>>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Like a true MS fanboy, Mike assumes that the poster is using something >>>> like eMule when, in fact, it could be iTunes which doesn't carry and >>>> malware. Why is it that the MS fanboys always assume that posters are >>>> doing something illegal? I guess they subscribe to the same crap that >>>> WPA and WGA stand for: guilty until proven innocent. >>>> >>>> Alias >>> >>> >>> Because in many cases they are is why.. note that I used the term 'many' >>> and not 'all' >> >> He's got a point though Mike. The original poster did in no way indicate >> even the remotest hint of any P2P downloads. So considering all the >> legality issues associated around P2P, it is a bit rude and arrogant to >> assume that it is the cause of his problems. >> >> A simple "If" placed correctly in your statement would do wonders for it >> and change it from an arrogant assumption to a helpful suggestion. >> >> -- >> Stephan >> 1986 Pontiac Fiero GT >> 1992 Suzuki Kan-o-tuna ('till I can get my R1) >> >> 君の事思い出す日なんてないのは >> 君の事忘れたときがないから > > > Stephan > > There was no mention of using a legal music download source either.. But you, in classic MS style, assumed the worst. > > The op claims crashes etc and downloading form P2P sites is a good way > to incite that Among many others. > > It was no arrogant assumption, purely a statement of fact which may or > may not answer as to why the crashes occur. > > If people want specific answers, they should be more specific in what > they ask.. Dance, Mike, dance. Alias > > . |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message news:m6u964lnqa51g51h9rogl1p4p4j98ktjck@4ax.com... > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:59:43 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" > <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: > >>":: Alias ::" <iamaliasTAKE******THISOUT.com> wrote in message >>news:g42mb4$u3p$1@aioe.org... >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason. >>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>> >>>> >>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that will >>>> slow your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>> >>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Like a true MS fanboy, Mike assumes that the poster is using something >>> like eMule when, in fact, it could be iTunes which doesn't carry and >>> malware. Why is it that the MS fanboys always assume that posters are >>> doing something illegal? I guess they subscribe to the same crap that >>> WPA >>> and WGA stand for: guilty until proven innocent. >>> >>> Alias >> >> >>Because in many cases they are is why.. note that I used the term 'many' >>and >>not 'all' > > > I'm really disappointed if you are actually a MVP if you now resort to > fibbing. You did not use either 'many' or 'all' in your original reply > to me. What you said verbatim appears below. > > "Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that will > slow your machine up and cause it to crash.." > > If some MVP is this deliberately dishonest is there a mechanism for > seeing this individual gets the remedial retraining he needs? No, I used it in my second reply.. care to read it again? -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Gotermeyer******.com wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:31:18 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" > <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: > >> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >> news:8dp9649eids1e182m4b42lj93mu770quk6@4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:23:09 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" >>> <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >>> >>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason. >>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>> >>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that will slow >>>> your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>> I was told that I would get help and accurate answers from a MVP. You >>> come back with don't use P2P that is a surefire way to pick up crap. >>> Well the crap I used was Urge which is a click away on the IE7 >>> browser. Are you saying Microsoft offers crap? >>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>> Always do. There is no spyware or virus on my system. >>> >>> Anymore guesses, I thought a MVP was suppose to know. >> >> All you told the group >> >> 1. It is slower than XP while transferring files >> >> It can be but not always.. >> >> 2. It crashes a lot >> >> Is that it? No error messages or anything that might indicate why it is >> crashing? Is there something specific you are doing just before it crashes >> >> 3. You download music >> >> You didn't say where, and P2P sites can be dangerous >> >> Maybe you should be a bit more specific, and in being so, we can maybe give >> more specific answers.. > > Maybe you should be more considerate of people asking for help and not > jump to conclusions or be defensive. I expected more from a MVP. It > seems you have a thing for P2P sites. I never use them, yet you > immediately jumped to that conclusion. As far as being specific maybe > that would be a good suggestion on how you should frame your replies > being a MVP and all rather than your shotgun response which totally > missed the mark. > > It appears some here are more interested in furthering their agenda > than actually trying to help. I have already said in a reply to > someone else the crash most annoying to me is Windows Explorer and my > downloading of music was with Urge. Seems you got what you initially intended.yes ? An argument. You were extremely vague in the first post and someone took a stab at it. Install ubuntu. You will have it locked up in about 15 minutes. |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista :: Alias :: wrote: > Need to Know wrote: >> :: Alias :: wrote: >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason. >>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>> >>>> >>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that >>>> will slow your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>> >>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Like a true MS fanboy, Mike assumes that the poster is using >>> something like eMule when, in fact, it could be iTunes which doesn't >>> carry and malware. Why is it that the MS fanboys always assume that >>> posters are doing something illegal? I guess they subscribe to the >>> same crap that WPA and WGA stand for: guilty until proven innocent. >>> >> >> What is the justification for the insult here Alias? > > Mike Hall's posting history, of course. > > Snip troll drivel. > > Alias You had better look in the mirror Alias. And you had better take a hard look at your own posting history, because you are no bed of roses. |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:58:47 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >> If some MVP is this deliberately dishonest is there a mechanism for >> seeing this individual gets the remedial retraining he needs? >No, I used it in my second reply.. care to read it again? Reading it once was enough. You attempted to lie and got caught. Is that the approved Microsoft policy for MVPs? |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista ":: Alias ::" <iamaliasTAKE******THISOUT.com> wrote in message news:g42v3h$g7$2@aioe.org... > Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message >> news:WcudncMa6ttKcPnVnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d@giganews.com ... >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:59:43 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >>> >>>> ":: Alias ::" <iamaliasTAKE******THISOUT.com> wrote in message >>>> news:g42mb4$u3p$1@aioe.org... >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >>>>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent >>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that will >>>>>> slow your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Like a true MS fanboy, Mike assumes that the poster is using something >>>>> like eMule when, in fact, it could be iTunes which doesn't carry and >>>>> malware. Why is it that the MS fanboys always assume that posters are >>>>> doing something illegal? I guess they subscribe to the same crap that >>>>> WPA and WGA stand for: guilty until proven innocent. >>>>> >>>>> Alias >>>> >>>> >>>> Because in many cases they are is why.. note that I used the term >>>> 'many' >>>> and not 'all' >>> >>> He's got a point though Mike. The original poster did in no way indicate >>> even the remotest hint of any P2P downloads. So considering all the >>> legality issues associated around P2P, it is a bit rude and arrogant to >>> assume that it is the cause of his problems. >>> >>> A simple "If" placed correctly in your statement would do wonders for it >>> and change it from an arrogant assumption to a helpful suggestion. >>> >>> -- >>> Stephan >>> 1986 Pontiac Fiero GT >>> 1992 Suzuki Kan-o-tuna ('till I can get my R1) >>> >>> ??????????????? >>> ????????????? >> >> >> Stephan >> >> There was no mention of using a legal music download source either.. > > But you, in classic MS style, assumed the worst. > >> >> The op claims crashes etc and downloading form P2P sites is a good way to >> incite that > > Among many others. > >> >> It was no arrogant assumption, purely a statement of fact which may or >> may not answer as to why the crashes occur. >> >> If people want specific answers, they should be more specific in what >> they ask.. > > Dance, Mike, dance. > > Alias >> >> . Gurgle Alias, Gurgle |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Gotermeyer******.com wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:58:47 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" > <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: > >>> If some MVP is this deliberately dishonest is there a mechanism for >>> seeing this individual gets the remedial retraining he needs? > >> No, I used it in my second reply.. care to read it again? > > Reading it once was enough. You attempted to lie and got caught. Is > that the approved Microsoft policy for MVPs? He didn't lie you doofus. Install ubuntu already ! Or take the PC to a technician, Squirrel for Brains |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:28:59 -0400, Hobbes <Hobbes@Calvins.lol> wrote: >> It appears some here are more interested in furthering their agenda >> than actually trying to help. I have already said in a reply to >> someone else the crash most annoying to me is Windows Explorer and my >> downloading of music was with Urge. > >Seems you got what you initially intended.yes ? >An argument. I got what I've seen many others get when they simply asked for help. Disrespect. >You were extremely vague in the first post and someone took a stab at it. Accusing me of stealing music P2P wasn't taking a stab at anything. It was a typical wise guy put down this newsgroup has a reputation for. Most noteworthy it was from a MVP who's purpose is suppose to offer help. Instead he insulted me, then tried to lie his way out of it. >Install ubuntu. >You will have it locked up in about 15 minutes. I'm wondering why the typical response is more like yours then offering any real instance. |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Gotermeyer******.com wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:28:59 -0400, Hobbes <Hobbes@Calvins.lol> wrote: > > >>> It appears some here are more interested in furthering their agenda >>> than actually trying to help. I have already said in a reply to >>> someone else the crash most annoying to me is Windows Explorer and my >>> downloading of music was with Urge. >> Seems you got what you initially intended.yes ? >> An argument. > > I got what I've seen many others get when they simply asked for help. > Disrespect. > >> You were extremely vague in the first post and someone took a stab at it. > > Accusing me of stealing music P2P wasn't taking a stab at anything. It > was a typical wise guy put down this newsgroup has a reputation for. > Most noteworthy it was from a MVP who's purpose is suppose to offer > help. Instead he insulted me, then tried to lie his way out of it. > >> Install ubuntu. >> You will have it locked up in about 15 minutes. > > I'm wondering why the typical response is more like yours then > offering any real instance. You need medical assistance. If you wanna install ubuntu...go ahead ! If you want help doing it try: alt.os.linux.ubuntu |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:53:46 -0700, "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote: >Where are you copying files to/from? Some Vista file operations are quicker >than XP, some are slower. Knowing exactly what you're doing will help >diagnose the cause of the slowness. I'm simply copying files from one hard drive to another, not over any network. It doesn't matter if from one internal drive to another or from some internal drive to an external drive or the other way around. The process is sometimes much slower than XP or going out of the shell and using something else to copy. I'm noticed others have similar problems. Is this a known issue? > >Are there any errors in the event logs related to the crashes? Open the >Performance and Reliability Monitor. Click on Reliability Monitor. Click on >the red X's to see the errors. There are no errors of any kind nor any events recorded in any logs. > >As far as Ubuntu being more reliable than Vista I'd say they are about >equal. Assuming no physical hardware problems both depend on the reliability >of the drivers for your particular hardware. I run both on several different >computers. I currently have no reliability issues with either. I have had >reliability issues with both when buggy drivers were in use. I do still have >some programs on both that are problematical. With both OS's I can lock them >up solid just by running an incompatible program. Thanks for a fair and objective answer not colored by any bias. The problem I see over and over has nothing to do with my applications but it seems to be Vista itself since it is Explorer that is slow in copying files and again it is Explorer that keeps saying it needs to shut down either when first bringing it up or if it is middle of doing something. Since no external third party drivers are involved in copying files this problem seems embedded in Windows itself. I have also seen in XP and I think 2000 as well but to a lessor degree. |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Need to Know wrote: > :: Alias :: wrote: >> Need to Know wrote: >>> :: Alias :: wrote: >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote: >>>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason. >>>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that >>>>> will slow your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>>> >>>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Like a true MS fanboy, Mike assumes that the poster is using >>>> something like eMule when, in fact, it could be iTunes which doesn't >>>> carry and malware. Why is it that the MS fanboys always assume that >>>> posters are doing something illegal? I guess they subscribe to the >>>> same crap that WPA and WGA stand for: guilty until proven innocent. >>>> >>> >>> What is the justification for the insult here Alias? >> >> Mike Hall's posting history, of course. >> >> Snip troll drivel. >> >> Alias > > You had better look in the mirror Alias. And you had better take a hard > look at your own posting history, because you are no bed of roses. Look who's talking. My posting history has very little insults and no lies. Alias |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Hobbes wrote: > Gotermeyer******.com wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:31:18 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" >> <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >> >>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>> news:8dp9649eids1e182m4b42lj93mu770quk6@4ax.com... >>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:23:09 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" >>>> <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason. >>>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>>> >>>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that >>>>> will slow >>>>> your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>> I was told that I would get help and accurate answers from a MVP. You >>>> come back with don't use P2P that is a surefire way to pick up crap. >>>> Well the crap I used was Urge which is a click away on the IE7 >>>> browser. Are you saying Microsoft offers crap? >>>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>> Always do. There is no spyware or virus on my system. >>>> >>>> Anymore guesses, I thought a MVP was suppose to know. >>> >>> All you told the group >>> >>> 1. It is slower than XP while transferring files >>> >>> It can be but not always.. >>> >>> 2. It crashes a lot >>> >>> Is that it? No error messages or anything that might indicate why it >>> is crashing? Is there something specific you are doing just before it >>> crashes >>> >>> 3. You download music >>> >>> You didn't say where, and P2P sites can be dangerous >>> >>> Maybe you should be a bit more specific, and in being so, we can >>> maybe give more specific answers.. >> >> Maybe you should be more considerate of people asking for help and not >> jump to conclusions or be defensive. I expected more from a MVP. It >> seems you have a thing for P2P sites. I never use them, yet you >> immediately jumped to that conclusion. As far as being specific maybe >> that would be a good suggestion on how you should frame your replies >> being a MVP and all rather than your shotgun response which totally >> missed the mark. >> >> It appears some here are more interested in furthering their agenda >> than actually trying to help. I have already said in a reply to >> someone else the crash most annoying to me is Windows Explorer and my >> downloading of music was with Urge. > > Seems you got what you initially intended.yes ? > An argument. > You were extremely vague in the first post and someone took a stab at it. > Install ubuntu. > You will have it locked up in about 15 minutes. Liar. FUD spreader. In short, you're a troll. Alias |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista :: Alias :: wrote: > Hobbes wrote: >> Gotermeyer******.com wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:31:18 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" >>> <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >>> >>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>> news:8dp9649eids1e182m4b42lj93mu770quk6@4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:23:09 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" >>>>> <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> <Gotermeyer******.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:f1s864lkopa13uiafftejhi4ceuoqf5j87@4ax.com... >>>>>>> Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying >>>>>>> seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent >>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>> I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work >>>>>>> related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since >>>>>>> Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that >>>>>> will slow >>>>>> your machine up and cause it to crash.. >>>>> I was told that I would get help and accurate answers from a MVP. You >>>>> come back with don't use P2P that is a surefire way to pick up crap. >>>>> Well the crap I used was Urge which is a click away on the IE7 >>>>> browser. Are you saying Microsoft offers crap? >>>>>> Run spyware removal procedures and see what happens.. >>>>> Always do. There is no spyware or virus on my system. >>>>> >>>>> Anymore guesses, I thought a MVP was suppose to know. >>>> >>>> All you told the group >>>> >>>> 1. It is slower than XP while transferring files >>>> >>>> It can be but not always.. >>>> >>>> 2. It crashes a lot >>>> >>>> Is that it? No error messages or anything that might indicate why it >>>> is crashing? Is there something specific you are doing just before >>>> it crashes >>>> >>>> 3. You download music >>>> >>>> You didn't say where, and P2P sites can be dangerous >>>> >>>> Maybe you should be a bit more specific, and in being so, we can >>>> maybe give more specific answers.. >>> >>> Maybe you should be more considerate of people asking for help and not >>> jump to conclusions or be defensive. I expected more from a MVP. It >>> seems you have a thing for P2P sites. I never use them, yet you >>> immediately jumped to that conclusion. As far as being specific maybe >>> that would be a good suggestion on how you should frame your replies >>> being a MVP and all rather than your shotgun response which totally >>> missed the mark. >>> >>> It appears some here are more interested in furthering their agenda >>> than actually trying to help. I have already said in a reply to >>> someone else the crash most annoying to me is Windows Explorer and my >>> downloading of music was with Urge. >> >> Seems you got what you initially intended.yes ? >> An argument. >> You were extremely vague in the first post and someone took a stab at it. >> Install ubuntu. >> You will have it locked up in about 15 minutes. > > Liar. FUD spreader. In short, you're a troll. > > Alias Said the King Troll. Ubuntu sucks...yet I'm playing with it ? Makes ya wonder what I'm up to , yes ? |
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| Re: I'm having trouble with Vista Gotermeyer******.com wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:53:46 -0700, "Kerry Brown" > <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote: > >> Where are you copying files to/from? Some Vista file operations are quicker >> than XP, some are slower. Knowing exactly what you're doing will help >> diagnose the cause of the slowness. > > I'm simply copying files from one hard drive to another, not over any > network. It doesn't matter if from one internal drive to another or > from some internal drive to an external drive or the other way around. > The process is sometimes much slower than XP or going out of the shell > and using something else to copy. > > I'm noticed others have similar problems. Is this a known issue? It's a known Windows issue, made worse with Vista with its indexing. I have both XP and Ubuntu installed, with XP on a faster computer. Ubuntu does file transfers MUCH faster than XP. Alias |
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