Cy!on wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:OlPDKP90IHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just
>>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will
>>> have to upgrade his case driver do you? :)
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> Yes, I have had to reactivate Vista at least twice simply because
>> Microsoft said so, all I did ws turn the machine off and back on
>> again, so do not ridicule the OP for what is a MICROSOFT PROBLEM.
>>
>> You cannot run a business by continually calling legitimate purchasers
>> thieves and liars... Microsoft have officially called me a thief on a
>> number of occasions, I know I am not and it does not bother me, but
>> many people it does bother and frankly if Ballmer chose to do that in
>> person he might well regret doing so.
>>
>> The OP is right to ask, it is a legitimate question because the
>> smallest change in configuration used to trigger it. Lucky you if you
>> have not experienced it.[/color]
>
> Personally, i bought an OEM copy of Vista and after installing it on one
> pc, upgraded to a quad-core pc with only one hard drive moving over (now
> D:), re-installed Vista and didn't do anything different from the first
> time i installed it. I've since added more drives, changed graphics
> cards, upgraded BIOS, changed this and that and Vista has never once
> said anything about hainv to reactivate anything.
>
> Although i have to ask how a piece of plastic that is only connected to
> the actual pc by 4 screws would ever trigger anything. Unless the pc
> has motion sensors?[/color]


My point is that I did NOTHING at all and had to reactivate on two
occasions with two PCs.

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> Moving your internal hardware to a different computer
> case will not affect your Windows Vista activation status
> in the least bit.
>[/color]


Should not, you cannot say "Will Not" when simply turning off the PC can
trigger it. It has happened at least twice to me for no reason at all,
just because you have not seen it does not mean it doesn't happen. If
the OP just happens to plug a drive into a different connector then who
knows? I am not being confrontational, but there have been numerous
errors in the activation model and it still isn't right, it has been
relaxed I think because people complain.

Charlie Tame wrote:[color=blue]
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=green]
>> Moving your internal hardware to a different computer
>> case will not affect your Windows Vista activation status
>> in the least bit.
>>[/color]
>
>
> Should not, you cannot say "Will Not" when simply turning off the PC can
> trigger it. It has happened at least twice to me for no reason at all,
> just because you have not seen it does not mean it doesn't happen. If
> the OP just happens to plug a drive into a different connector then who
> knows? I am not being confrontational, but there have been numerous
> errors in the activation model and it still isn't right, it has been
> relaxed I think because people complain.[/color]

You stupid stiff upper lip and stiff ironing board back *clown* are you
still in the US running your big stiff mouth somewhere in Idaho or did
you get your stiff/tight butt chicks kicked back to England?

What does a computer case have to do with
product activation....absolutely nothing!
It's external to the internal hardware and has
no hardware identification number that
the operating system can identify!

Windows Vista Activation FAQ
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/activationfaq.mspx[/url]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

---------------------------------------------------------------

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:uCOvlwB1IHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> Moving your internal hardware to a different computer
> case will not affect your Windows Vista activation status
> in the least bit.
>[/color]


Should not, you cannot say "Will Not" when simply turning off the PC can
trigger it. It has happened at least twice to me for no reason at all,
just because you have not seen it does not mean it doesn't happen. If
the OP just happens to plug a drive into a different connector then who
knows? I am not being confrontational, but there have been numerous
errors in the activation model and it still isn't right, it has been
relaxed I think because people complain.

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> What does a computer case have to do with
> product activation....absolutely nothing!
> It's external to the internal hardware and has
> no hardware identification number that
> the operating system can identify!
>
> Windows Vista Activation FAQ
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/activationfaq.mspx[/url]
>[/color]


My point is that if merely turning a computer off can trigger the issue
then "Won't Happen" is not necessarily true. "Should not happen" maybe,
of course it should not.

The OP may unintentionally make a change that "Could" trigger it. I use
removable drive trays and placing a drive in the wrong tray can set it off.

I am not complaining, merely saying that it can happen and therefore
comes as a surprize when really nothing has changed.

Most of the time a little heat from a blow dryer or such will allow the
sticker to peel, and I always have a roll of clear plastic tape on hand for
sealing boxes, moving stickers...LOL

"Darkelldar" <not@home.net> wrote in message
news:OxiKTt%230IHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:OlPDKP90IHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just
>>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will
>>> have to upgrade his case driver do you? :)
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> Yes, I have had to reactivate Vista at least twice simply because
>> Microsoft said so, all I did ws turn the machine off and back on again,
>> so do not ridicule the OP for what is a MICROSOFT PROBLEM.
>>
>> You cannot run a business by continually calling legitimate purchasers
>> thieves and liars... Microsoft have officially called me a thief on a
>> number of occasions, I know I am not and it does not bother me, but many
>> people it does bother and frankly if Ballmer chose to do that in person
>> he might well regret doing so.
>>
>> The OP is right to ask, it is a legitimate question because the smallest
>> change in configuration used to trigger it. Lucky you if you have not
>> experienced it.
>>
>> Things seem to have improved a lot, I hope so, but in < 5 minutes I can
>> be back here using Ubuntu or Debian with no such worries, why? Because
>> Ballmer is not allowed to deactivate me is why.[/color]
>
> There is no problem with the system working in a different case. As long
> as it all fits in. The working parts are all the same. But the Vista COA
> and licence Key is stuck to the case so the question is is it legal to
> change the case. Or is the case the only thing you can't replace?[/color]

That sounds familiar, all I did was move the RAM to different slots.
I have 2 1GB sticks and 2 512MB sticks.
Once I figured out how the RAM had to be arranged to make the double data
rate actually work, I moved one stick from each bank to a slot on the other
bank.
It was 1GB each bank1 slot 1 & 2 and 512MB bank 2 slot 1 & 2.
Now it is 1GB in bank 1, slot 1 and 1GB in bank 2, slot 1 and 512MB in bank
1, slot 2 and bank 2, slot 2.
To me that is counter intuitive, but that is the way it is designed.

When I rebooted, I had to reactivate.
15 minutes on the phone for no good reason is 15 too many...


"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:u3FmSaB1IHA.5300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Cy!on wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>> news:OlPDKP90IHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just
>>>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will
>>>> have to upgrade his case driver do you? :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I have had to reactivate Vista at least twice simply because
>>> Microsoft said so, all I did ws turn the machine off and back on again,
>>> so do not ridicule the OP for what is a MICROSOFT PROBLEM.
>>>
>>> You cannot run a business by continually calling legitimate purchasers
>>> thieves and liars... Microsoft have officially called me a thief on a
>>> number of occasions, I know I am not and it does not bother me, but many
>>> people it does bother and frankly if Ballmer chose to do that in person
>>> he might well regret doing so.
>>>
>>> The OP is right to ask, it is a legitimate question because the smallest
>>> change in configuration used to trigger it. Lucky you if you have not
>>> experienced it.[/color]
>>
>> Personally, i bought an OEM copy of Vista and after installing it on one
>> pc, upgraded to a quad-core pc with only one hard drive moving over (now
>> D:), re-installed Vista and didn't do anything different from the first
>> time i installed it. I've since added more drives, changed graphics
>> cards, upgraded BIOS, changed this and that and Vista has never once said
>> anything about hainv to reactivate anything.
>>
>> Although i have to ask how a piece of plastic that is only connected to
>> the actual pc by 4 screws would ever trigger anything. Unless the pc has
>> motion sensors?[/color]
>
>
> My point is that I did NOTHING at all and had to reactivate on two
> occasions with two PCs.[/color]

They have case drivers on the same website as blinker fluid, board
stretchers and striped paint.

"locoeng" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:1b3c6f7ccbae8f1c54a47d0df93cc557@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing
>> standpoint?[/color]
>
> I misread the OP and focused on "keeping the mobo" and assumed there
> would be additional hardware changes, such as HDD's etc. in which case a
> reinstall and reactivate would be necessary.
>
> Colin Barnhorst Wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> Why in
>> the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just changing
>> the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will have to
>> upgrade
>> his case driver do you? :)[/color]
>
>
> Let me know if you need case drivers, I have a really good link for
> you.
>
>
> --
> locoeng
>
> Vista Ultimate 32/64 bit dual boot
> Gigabyte EP35 DS3R
> XFX GeForce 8600GT
> Corsair 520HX
> G.Skill DDR II 800 X2 gigs
> Seagate 120GB (IDE) X2
> WD 750 (SATA)
> Samsung SH203B SBO3 patched codeking
> Pioneer 215L patched MCSE
> NEC/Optiarc 7200S 1.06bt Liggy&Dee
> Lite-On 20A1L BL06 -FB FBL EOS EOHT 6-[/color]

You hit a bug, that's all. About a year ago there was a bug that caused a
few folks to have to reactivate for simply upgrading a driver. No hardware
involved at all but the software mistook a driver change for a hardware
change. That apparently got sorted.

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:O89L5lC1IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=green]
>> What does a computer case have to do with
>> product activation....absolutely nothing!
>> It's external to the internal hardware and has
>> no hardware identification number that
>> the operating system can identify!
>>
>> Windows Vista Activation FAQ
>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/activationfaq.mspx[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>
> My point is that if merely turning a computer off can trigger the issue
> then "Won't Happen" is not necessarily true. "Should not happen" maybe, of
> course it should not.
>
> The OP may unintentionally make a change that "Could" trigger it. I use
> removable drive trays and placing a drive in the wrong tray can set it
> off.
>
> I am not complaining, merely saying that it can happen and therefore comes
> as a surprize when really nothing has changed.[/color]

I know that website! I got my dvd rewinder there.

"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:%23$hiZLE1IHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> They have case drivers on the same website as blinker fluid, board
> stretchers and striped paint.
>
> "locoeng" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:1b3c6f7ccbae8f1c54a47d0df93cc557@nntp-gateway.com...[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing
>>> standpoint?[/color]
>>
>> I misread the OP and focused on "keeping the mobo" and assumed there
>> would be additional hardware changes, such as HDD's etc. in which case a
>> reinstall and reactivate would be necessary.
>>
>> Colin Barnhorst Wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> Why in
>>> the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just changing
>>> the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will have to
>>> upgrade
>>> his case driver do you? :)[/color]
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you need case drivers, I have a really good link for
>> you.
>>
>>
>> --
>> locoeng
>>
>> Vista Ultimate 32/64 bit dual boot
>> Gigabyte EP35 DS3R
>> XFX GeForce 8600GT
>> Corsair 520HX
>> G.Skill DDR II 800 X2 gigs
>> Seagate 120GB (IDE) X2
>> WD 750 (SATA)
>> Samsung SH203B SBO3 patched codeking
>> Pioneer 215L patched MCSE
>> NEC/Optiarc 7200S 1.06bt Liggy&Dee
>> Lite-On 20A1L BL06 -FB FBL EOS EOHT 6-[/color]
>
>[/color]

Catch up with the thread. The OP is only changing the case.

"rive0108" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:6b8e5b8662cd587769c9d513c2f4bab8@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> If disk detects different hardware it will give an error that it is
> already installed on another system, and will not activate. Many times
> due to bios update, new hard disk, etc., I have had to go through this
> (my version is OEM). Simply call Microsoft for activation, tell them you
> have upgraded your system and they will provide new activation key.
>
>
> --
> rive0108
>
> Alienware Area-51 M5790
> Vista Ultimate x64 sp1
> T7600G Core2 Duo 2.33 Ghz (overclocked to 2.66 GHZ)
> ATI Mobility Radeon x1900 256 MB
> 1920x1200 WUXGA
> 4GB DDR2 PC5300
> HP digital Tuner express card
> 200 GB 7200 RPM HDD RAID 0[/color]

"wme1221" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed.
> The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything
> else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with
> room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an
> operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't
> I be OK from a licensing standpoint?
> --
> Best, Wm. E[/color]

13873163822 wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "wme1221" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed.
>> The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything
>> else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with
>> room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an
>> operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't
>> I be OK from a licensing standpoint?
>> --
>> Best, Wm. E[/color][/color]


Well, just make sure the motherboard screws only make contact where they
should and assuming HP follow the standard all should be well. You are
not changing anything so Vista should not know or care what case it is
in, but of course you will be stepping out of any warranty you may have.
Vista will usually only detect major changes like CPU, Motherboard, the
kinds of things that might indicate you had (for example) cloned your
drive and tried to use that in a different machine.