Hi---repeat of a message I just wrote, but do not see posted.
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Only seem to be able to post a reply. The management is friendly and
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Got a clue?

"Donald Anadell" <danadell@nospamersmikrotec.com> wrote in message
news:OGh6lxvyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|
| "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
| news:urv7qBpyIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| >I did not say that, and you didn't upgrade from v7.0.5730.11 IIRC, you
| >uninstalled v7.0.5730.11 and then installed v7.0.5730.13.
| >
| > As of this post: If the most recent IE update (i.e., KB947864, released
08
| > Apr-08) is installed, %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet
Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
| > <=this file will be v7.0.6000.16640.
|
| Except on the two machines I maintain here with Windows XP SP3 and
KB947864
| installed on both, the version of IEXPLORE.EXE is v7.0.6000.20772

I have (WinXPSP3 and kb947864)
File version:
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
7.00.6000.16640 (vista_gdr.080213-1606)
611 KB 02/29/08 03:55:46

And for your version:
C:\WINDOWS\$hf_mig$\KB947864-IE7\SP2QFE
7.00.6000.20772 (vista_ldr.080213-1606)

mae

| > If it's not, the machine is not fully patched and you're not running a
| > fully patched version of IE7.
|
| Did you mean to say if it's not v7.0.6000.16640(Or Higher)?
|
| Donald Anadell
|
| >
| > Do NOT confuse %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
<=this
| > file version and the version displayed in IE7 Help | About!
| > --
| > ~PA Bear
| >>
| >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
| >> news:OyS99OoyIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

I can't take it anymore! You're peddling nothing but FUD in these posts,
Tom.

Older versions of Google Toolbar or Google Earth (both of which include
Google Updater by default) is/was the most likely cause of your problems
(whatever they were), not IE v7.0.5730.11. Others experienced similar
issues...but only AFTER installing KB947864.

All you really had to do was uninstall the older Google add-on and then
reinstall using a fresh download. There was NO need to remove v7.0.5730.11
and then install v7.0.5730.13 (or overinstall v7.0.5730.13)!
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


ColTom2 wrote:
> Glad that you now understand the discussion about file version versus
> program version.
>
> However, if you go to Help>About and it indicates you have version
> 7.0.5730.11 you still need to do as I outlined in my previous posting
> Subj:
> Latest Version Build IE7 dated 8 Jun 08 8:07PM.
>
> Basically you need to uninstall Google Updater through Add/Remove
> Programs
> and download and install Build 13 from
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...n#RelatedLinks.
> Be sure and close out all open programs and disable your Anti-Virus and
> Spyware programs before install.
>
> Unless you do the above it will not show any IE7 updates through Windows
> Update. After you accomplish the above you will get an auto update to this
> Build 13 install that you would not get otherwise.
>
> You do have Google Earth installed and have made updates to it haven't
> you?
<SNIP>

Hi, Donald.

IEXPLORE.EXE v7.0.6000.20772 is the SP2QFE (Quick Fix Engineering) branch
version in 32-bit WinXP SP2 and WinXP SP3 with KB947864 installed.

IEXPLORE.EXE v7.0.6000.16640 is the SP2GDR (General Distribution Releases)
branch version.

[Source: File Information tables of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947864]

Very generally speaking, Windows Update will offer you the QFE branch
version if an earlier hotfix (not a true update) had been installed.

What's a hotfix? See the description here:
https://support.microsoft.com/contac...1414&WS=hotfix

> Did you mean to say if it's not v7.0.6000.16640(Or Higher)?

Well, yes! And chances are it *will* be higher after installing the IE
update that MS is planning to release later today (cf.
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33721).
--
~Robear


Donald Anadell wrote:
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
> news:urv7qBpyIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I did not say that, and you didn't upgrade from v7.0.5730.11 IIRC, you
>> uninstalled v7.0.5730.11 and then installed v7.0.5730.13.
>>
>> As of this post: If the most recent IE update (i.e., KB947864, released
>> 08
>> Apr-08) is installed, %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet
>> Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
>> <=this file will be v7.0.6000.16640.
>
> Except on the two machines I maintain here with Windows XP SP3 and
> KB947864
> installed on both, the version of IEXPLORE.EXE is v7.0.6000.20772
>
>> If it's not, the machine is not fully patched and you're not running a
>> fully patched version of IE7.
>
> Did you mean to say if it's not v7.0.6000.16640(Or Higher)?
>
> Donald Anadell
>
>
>>
>> Do NOT confuse %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
>> <=this
>> file version and the version displayed in IE7 Help | About!
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>>
>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>> Hi PaBear:
>>>
>>> Are you saying because I manually ran the IE7 version 7.0.5730.13 to
>>> upgrade from Build 11 and it did not require validation then it is
>>> considered not fully patched. And with the Security Update due out
>>> tomorrow
>>> 10 June 08 that it will change my version of IE7 for 32 bit to version
>>> 7.0.6000.16640?
>>>
>>> I have all known updates now installed....as far as I know and
>>> according
>>> to Belarc Advisor. Thanks for helping keeping me straight.
>>>
>>> ColTom2
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OyS99OoyIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> In another thread, you told us that you'd uninstalled v7.0.5730.11 in
>>> WinXP
>>> and then installed v7.0.5730.13. There is one difference of any
>>> substance
>>> between those versions: Installing the latter does not require
>>> Validation.
>>>
>>> If your machines are fully patched, the true "latest versions" of IE7
>>> (i.e.,
>>> %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE <=this file) would
>>> be
>>> v7.0.6000.16640 in most 32-bit versions of WinXP SP2/SP3 and
>>> v7.0.6000.16643
>>> in most 32-bit versions of Vista.
>>>
>>> Expect this to change with the release of the next Cumulative Security
>>> Update for IE, expected to be released on 10 Jun-08.
>>>
>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>> Apparently there are two different latest versions of Internet
>>>> Explorer
>>>> 7.
>>>> One for XP SP3 and a separate version for Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me the latest IE7 versions that apply to both XP SP3
>>>> and
>>>> Vista?
>>>>
>>>> I thought XP SP3 was version 7.0.5730.13 and did not realize that
>>>> Vista
>>>> also has apparently a different latest version.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone can clarify these IE7 versions for me I will be most
>>>> appreciative.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> ColTom2

"mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23Tz4AmwyIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Donald Anadell" <danadell@nospamersmikrotec.com> wrote in message
> news:OGh6lxvyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |
> | "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
> | news:urv7qBpyIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | >I did not say that, and you didn't upgrade from v7.0.5730.11 IIRC, you
> | >uninstalled v7.0.5730.11 and then installed v7.0.5730.13.
> | >
> | > As of this post: If the most recent IE update (i.e., KB947864,
> released
> 08
> | > Apr-08) is installed, %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet
> Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
> | > <=this file will be v7.0.6000.16640.
> |
> | Except on the two machines I maintain here with Windows XP SP3 and
> KB947864
> | installed on both, the version of IEXPLORE.EXE is v7.0.6000.20772
>
> I have (WinXPSP3 and kb947864)
> File version:
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
> 7.00.6000.16640 (vista_gdr.080213-1606)
> 611 KB 02/29/08 03:55:46
>
> And for your version:
> C:\WINDOWS\$hf_mig$\KB947864-IE7\SP2QFE
> 7.00.6000.20772 (vista_ldr.080213-1606)

That's correct, I have the QFE Branch (Quick Fix Engineering)/LDR (Limited
Distributed Release) version of KB947864 installed on my Windows XP SP3
machines as apposed to the GDR Branch (General Distributed Release) version
of KB947864.

I have (WinXPSP3 and KB947864)
7.00.6000.20772 (vista_ldr.080213-1606)
611 KB 02/22/08

Donald Anadell


>
> mae
>
> | > If it's not, the machine is not fully patched and you're not running a
> | > fully patched version of IE7.
> |
> | Did you mean to say if it's not v7.0.6000.16640(Or Higher)?
> |
> | Donald Anadell
> |
> | >
> | > Do NOT confuse %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
> <=this
> | > file version and the version displayed in IE7 Help | About!
> | > --
> | > ~PA Bear
> | >>
> | >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
> | >> news:OyS99OoyIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
news:e8uxP5wyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Donald.
>
> IEXPLORE.EXE v7.0.6000.20772 is the SP2QFE (Quick Fix Engineering) branch
> version in 32-bit WinXP SP2 and WinXP SP3 with KB947864 installed.
>
> IEXPLORE.EXE v7.0.6000.16640 is the SP2GDR (General Distribution Releases)
> branch version.
>
> [Source: File Information tables of
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947864]
>
> Very generally speaking, Windows Update will offer you the QFE branch
> version if an earlier hotfix (not a true update) had been installed.

Thanks Bear,

Yes I understand that, just thought it would help to clear up why one fully
patched Windows XP SP3 would have a different version number for
iexplorer.exe than another fully Patched version of Windows XP SP3. And of
course that depends on whether the Package Installer chooses the QFE or GDR
branch of KB947864 to install.

>
> What's a hotfix? See the description here:
> https://support.microsoft.com/contac...1414&WS=hotfix
>
>> Did you mean to say if it's not v7.0.6000.16640(Or Higher)?
>
> Well, yes! And chances are it *will* be higher after installing the IE
> update that MS is planning to release later today (cf.
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33721).

Agreed, Updates haven't hit the servers here yet(usually around 3:00 PM DST
on Patch Tuesday) so can't say for sure:)


Donald Anadell



> --
> ~Robear
>
>
> Donald Anadell wrote:
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
>> news:urv7qBpyIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I did not say that, and you didn't upgrade from v7.0.5730.11 IIRC, you
>>> uninstalled v7.0.5730.11 and then installed v7.0.5730.13.
>>>
>>> As of this post: If the most recent IE update (i.e., KB947864, released
>>> 08
>>> Apr-08) is installed, %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet
>>> Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
>>> <=this file will be v7.0.6000.16640.
>>
>> Except on the two machines I maintain here with Windows XP SP3 and
>> KB947864
>> installed on both, the version of IEXPLORE.EXE is v7.0.6000.20772
>>
>>> If it's not, the machine is not fully patched and you're not running a
>>> fully patched version of IE7.
>>
>> Did you mean to say if it's not v7.0.6000.16640(Or Higher)?
>>
>> Donald Anadell
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Do NOT confuse %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
>>> <=this
>>> file version and the version displayed in IE7 Help | About!
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>>
>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>> Hi PaBear:
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying because I manually ran the IE7 version 7.0.5730.13 to
>>>> upgrade from Build 11 and it did not require validation then it is
>>>> considered not fully patched. And with the Security Update due out
>>>> tomorrow
>>>> 10 June 08 that it will change my version of IE7 for 32 bit to version
>>>> 7.0.6000.16640?
>>>>
>>>> I have all known updates now installed....as far as I know and
>>>> according
>>>> to Belarc Advisor. Thanks for helping keeping me straight.
>>>>
>>>> ColTom2
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OyS99OoyIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> In another thread, you told us that you'd uninstalled v7.0.5730.11 in
>>>> WinXP
>>>> and then installed v7.0.5730.13. There is one difference of any
>>>> substance
>>>> between those versions: Installing the latter does not require
>>>> Validation.
>>>>
>>>> If your machines are fully patched, the true "latest versions" of IE7
>>>> (i.e.,
>>>> %system%\ProgramFiles\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE <=this file) would
>>>> be
>>>> v7.0.6000.16640 in most 32-bit versions of WinXP SP2/SP3 and
>>>> v7.0.6000.16643
>>>> in most 32-bit versions of Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Expect this to change with the release of the next Cumulative Security
>>>> Update for IE, expected to be released on 10 Jun-08.
>>>>
>>>> ColTom2 wrote:
>>>>> Apparently there are two different latest versions of Internet
>>>>> Explorer
>>>>> 7.
>>>>> One for XP SP3 and a separate version for Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me the latest IE7 versions that apply to both XP SP3
>>>>> and
>>>>> Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought XP SP3 was version 7.0.5730.13 and did not realize that
>>>>> Vista
>>>>> also has apparently a different latest version.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone can clarify these IE7 versions for me I will be most
>>>>> appreciative.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> ColTom2
>

"Denno" wrote in
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> Hi---repeat of a message I just wrote, but do not see posted.
> MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE! I have joined this forum but cannot post a new thread.
> Only seem to be able to post a reply. The management is friendly and
> "helpful," but keeps referring me to higher levels of help.
>
> All that is going on is when I try to post a new question, the page reloads
> but the window for posting does not appear.
>
> Got a clue?

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