My Vista Home premium doesn't offer Complete PC backup, and in any case I am
not so sure I miss that facility?.

What I want is some means to create a CD or DVD from which I can boot my
machine and in case I need it reinstall my Vista with all upgrades that were
applied at the time I made that backup. If that backup includes all my
installed programs at the time so much the better, but backup of my user
data is a separate issue that causes me no problem.

I once experienced a situation with my older XP machine where I had to
reinstall Windows XP from the original recovery CD, after which my machine
entered a long process of installing all the upgrades that had been issued
since my PC was new. That was not "funny".

If Vista (Home premium) offers this facility and I have just overlooked it,
OK. If there exists some (reputable) third party product that offers it, OK.
In any case I should be very grateful for information.

regards Sven

Sven Pran wrote:
[color=blue]
> My Vista Home premium doesn't offer Complete PC backup, and in any case I
> am not so sure I miss that facility?.
>
> What I want is some means to create a CD or DVD from which I can boot my
> machine and in case I need it reinstall my Vista with all upgrades that
> were applied at the time I made that backup. If that backup includes all
> my installed programs at the time so much the better, but backup of my
> user data is a separate issue that causes me no problem.
>
> I once experienced a situation with my older XP machine where I had to
> reinstall Windows XP from the original recovery CD, after which my machine
> entered a long process of installing all the upgrades that had been issued
> since my PC was new. That was not "funny".
>
> If Vista (Home premium) offers this facility and I have just overlooked
> it, OK. If there exists some (reputable) third party product that offers
> it, OK. In any case I should be very grateful for information.[/color]

I believe Acronis True Image and an external hard drive should take care of
your needs. There are other imaging programs, like Norton Ghost, but I
prefer Acronis since I don't purchase Symantec products. YMMV.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
[url]www.elephantboycomputers.com[/url]
Don't Panic!

i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.


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davidoc
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"davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
news:davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...[color=blue]
>
> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.[/color]

Thanks, I shall look into that.

A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used on
my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk address as
C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at location E:)
the boot process would fail.

That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a recovery
(bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery CD as being
updated.

regards Sven

Sven Pran wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
> news:davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...[color=green]
>>
>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.[/color]
>
> Thanks, I shall look into that.
>
> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used
> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk
> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at
> location E:) the boot process would fail.
>
> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a
> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery
> CD as being updated.
>
> regards Sven[/color]

I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. Instead
of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't
one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days)
that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was
made?

Bob

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, [email]bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>Sven Pran wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.[/color]
>>
>> Thanks, I shall look into that.
>>
>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used
>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk
>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at
>> location E:) the boot process would fail.
>>
>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a
>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery
>> CD as being updated.
>>
>> regards Sven[/color]
>
>I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. Instead
>of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't
>one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days)
>that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was
>made?[/color]

That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for.

And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive
is for.

Nonny wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, [email]bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com[/email] wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Sven Pran wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
>>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...
>>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.
>>> Thanks, I shall look into that.
>>>
>>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used
>>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk
>>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at
>>> location E:) the boot process would fail.
>>>
>>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a
>>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery
>>> CD as being updated.
>>>
>>> regards Sven[/color]
>> I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. Instead
>> of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't
>> one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days)
>> that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was
>> made?[/color]
>
> That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for.
>
> And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive
> is for.[/color]

But you don't need an extra hard drive -- drives that can write DVDs are
nearly ubiquitous these days, why buy something else (other than DVD
blanks, which are quite cheap)? Can ATI create a bootable recovery DVD set?

Bob

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:48:38 -0400, [email]bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>Nonny wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, [email]bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com[/email] wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Sven Pran wrote:
>>>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...
>>>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.
>>>> Thanks, I shall look into that.
>>>>
>>>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used
>>>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk
>>>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at
>>>> location E:) the boot process would fail.
>>>>
>>>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a
>>>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery
>>>> CD as being updated.
>>>>
>>>> regards Sven
>>> I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. Instead
>>> of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't
>>> one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days)
>>> that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was
>>> made?[/color]
>>
>> That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for.
>>
>> And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive
>> is for.[/color]
>
>But you don't need an extra hard drive -- drives that can write DVDs are
>nearly ubiquitous these days, why buy something else (other than DVD
>blanks, which are quite cheap)? Can ATI create a bootable recovery DVD set?[/color]

While it can create a bootable CD with its program on it, it can't
create a bootable DVD set... if it can, I'm not aware of it.

Hey,
I bought Acronis True Image and I bought an external harddisk.
I had ATI make an initial complete backup of my computer to the external
harddisk, and for the disaster situation if my internal harddisk ever
becomes unbootable I had ATI create a bootable CD that will allow me to
restore my system from the external harddisk to a brand new (or completely
reformatted) internal harddisk.

That is all I ask from any backup system.

And BTW: Thanks to those who called my attention to Acronis, it's just
great.

regards Sven

"Nonny" <nonnymoose******.com> wrote in message
news:l5gt445nc05nd1pen9m5565t57er95k4p2@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:48:38 -0400, [email]bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com[/email] wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Nonny wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, [email]bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com[/email] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sven Pran wrote:
>>>>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com...
>>>>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image.
>>>>> Thanks, I shall look into that.
>>>>>
>>>>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I
>>>>> used
>>>>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk
>>>>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it
>>>>> (at
>>>>> location E:) the boot process would fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a
>>>>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original
>>>>> recovery
>>>>> CD as being updated.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards Sven
>>>> I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist.
>>>> Instead
>>>> of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't
>>>> one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these
>>>> days)
>>>> that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was
>>>> made?
>>>
>>> That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for.
>>>
>>> And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive
>>> is for.[/color]
>>
>>But you don't need an extra hard drive -- drives that can write DVDs are
>>nearly ubiquitous these days, why buy something else (other than DVD
>>blanks, which are quite cheap)? Can ATI create a bootable recovery DVD
>>set?[/color]
>
> While it can create a bootable CD with its program on it, it can't
> create a bootable DVD set... if it can, I'm not aware of it.[/color]