My brand-new Acer Aspire M5100 pc, 2 gig RAM, pre-installed Vista Home
Premium had a fatal crash, so a complete disk format/reinstall from the
hidden disk partition via Acer's "Empowering Technology" was done. I have no
OS disk.

Then, I uninstalled the bundled demo progs (Office 2007, Norton, etc) and
did full updates. My AV is AVG 7.5 (not 8, which is documented as giving
problems).

Despite all this, IE7 continues to be "flaky", has never run correctly.
(before and after SP1).

I have 2 meg rated cable, yet downloads (from any source, incl MS) are
continually hanging, to the point where memories of dial-up come to haunt
me. Tests on PCPitstop report download/upload within a few % of ISP's
claims (1.83mb down, 186 kb up being the norm). A "definitions" download of
1.2mb took nearly 4 minutes, and the 66mb Vista SP1 took half an hour.

Further - IE7 totally crashes when trying to print a web page. Fault report
says it's with mshtml.dll, but the only MSN site report I found on this is
one I read for 10 minutes before realising it was for XP and earlier, not
Vista. IE7's "online search for solution" does nothing except delay the
restart of itself.

I'm not a novice - my "old" pc is still running the original installation of
XP with few problems and no crashes (and I date back to the dark ages of
Win3.1 in maintaining home pc's for the family).

Rather than waste a further 3 days on another new installation, updates,
drivers etc ... can I just install IE7 as a "clean" install. Is this
possible? if so, where is the source file?

If not, will Vista allow a non-MS browser to replace it, without creating
yet more problems?

For IE, the 'reset' button will do anything that SFC will not.

Some Windows Vista functions may not work, or Windows Vista may stop
responding: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929833

The reset is at:
IE, Tools menu, Options, Advanced tab.
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"Silvabod" <nospam@thank.you> wrote in message
news:ueQrFqnwIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My brand-new Acer Aspire M5100 pc, 2 gig RAM, pre-installed Vista Home
> Premium had a fatal crash, so a complete disk format/reinstall from the
> hidden disk partition via Acer's "Empowering Technology" was done. I have
> no OS disk.
>
> Then, I uninstalled the bundled demo progs (Office 2007, Norton, etc) and
> did full updates. My AV is AVG 7.5 (not 8, which is documented as giving
> problems).
>
> Despite all this, IE7 continues to be "flaky", has never run correctly.
> (before and after SP1).
>
> I have 2 meg rated cable, yet downloads (from any source, incl MS) are
> continually hanging, to the point where memories of dial-up come to haunt
> me. Tests on PCPitstop report download/upload within a few % of ISP's
> claims (1.83mb down, 186 kb up being the norm). A "definitions" download
> of 1.2mb took nearly 4 minutes, and the 66mb Vista SP1 took half an hour.
>
> Further - IE7 totally crashes when trying to print a web page. Fault
> report says it's with mshtml.dll, but the only MSN site report I found on
> this is one I read for 10 minutes before realising it was for XP and
> earlier, not Vista. IE7's "online search for solution" does nothing
> except delay the restart of itself.
>
> I'm not a novice - my "old" pc is still running the original installation
> of XP with few problems and no crashes (and I date back to the dark ages
> of Win3.1 in maintaining home pc's for the family).
>
> Rather than waste a further 3 days on another new installation, updates,
> drivers etc ... can I just install IE7 as a "clean" install. Is this
> possible? if so, where is the source file?
>
> If not, will Vista allow a non-MS browser to replace it, without creating
> yet more problems?

I am running Firefox on a Vista machine with no problem. In fact it can run
alongside IE7 and I have had both open at the same time. It takes just a few
minutes to download and get started. https://addons.mozilla.org/

You could look for a update on Microsoft's site but if you do you must use
IE7 to do it - they won't do it through Firefox. This is a chicken and egg
situation

"Silvabod" wrote:

> My brand-new Acer Aspire M5100 pc, 2 gig RAM, pre-installed Vista Home
> Premium had a fatal crash, so a complete disk format/reinstall from the
> hidden disk partition via Acer's "Empowering Technology" was done. I have no
> OS disk.
>
> Then, I uninstalled the bundled demo progs (Office 2007, Norton, etc) and
> did full updates. My AV is AVG 7.5 (not 8, which is documented as giving
> problems).
>
> Despite all this, IE7 continues to be "flaky", has never run correctly.
> (before and after SP1).
>
> I have 2 meg rated cable, yet downloads (from any source, incl MS) are
> continually hanging, to the point where memories of dial-up come to haunt
> me. Tests on PCPitstop report download/upload within a few % of ISP's
> claims (1.83mb down, 186 kb up being the norm). A "definitions" download of
> 1.2mb took nearly 4 minutes, and the 66mb Vista SP1 took half an hour.
>
> Further - IE7 totally crashes when trying to print a web page. Fault report
> says it's with mshtml.dll, but the only MSN site report I found on this is
> one I read for 10 minutes before realising it was for XP and earlier, not
> Vista. IE7's "online search for solution" does nothing except delay the
> restart of itself.
>
> I'm not a novice - my "old" pc is still running the original installation of
> XP with few problems and no crashes (and I date back to the dark ages of
> Win3.1 in maintaining home pc's for the family).
>
> Rather than waste a further 3 days on another new installation, updates,
> drivers etc ... can I just install IE7 as a "clean" install. Is this
> possible? if so, where is the source file?
>
> If not, will Vista allow a non-MS browser to replace it, without creating
> yet more problems?
>
> I

Sorry wrong link
www.mozilla.com/firefox/

"Silvabod" <nospam@thank.you> wrote in message
news:ueQrFqnwIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My brand-new Acer Aspire M5100 pc, 2 gig RAM, pre-installed Vista Home
> Premium had a fatal crash, so a complete disk format/reinstall from the
> hidden disk partition via Acer's "Empowering Technology" was done. I have
> no OS disk.
>
> Then, I uninstalled the bundled demo progs (Office 2007, Norton, etc) and
> did full updates. My AV is AVG 7.5 (not 8, which is documented as giving
> problems).
>
> Despite all this, IE7 continues to be "flaky", has never run correctly.
> (before and after SP1).
>
> I have 2 meg rated cable, yet downloads (from any source, incl MS) are
> continually hanging, to the point where memories of dial-up come to haunt
> me. Tests on PCPitstop report download/upload within a few % of ISP's
> claims (1.83mb down, 186 kb up being the norm). A "definitions" download
> of 1.2mb took nearly 4 minutes, and the 66mb Vista SP1 took half an hour.
>
> Further - IE7 totally crashes when trying to print a web page. Fault
> report says it's with mshtml.dll, but the only MSN site report I found on
> this is one I read for 10 minutes before realising it was for XP and
> earlier, not Vista. IE7's "online search for solution" does nothing
> except delay the restart of itself.
>
> I'm not a novice - my "old" pc is still running the original installation
> of XP with few problems and no crashes (and I date back to the dark ages
> of Win3.1 in maintaining home pc's for the family).
>
> Rather than waste a further 3 days on another new installation, updates,
> drivers etc ... can I just install IE7 as a "clean" install. Is this
> possible? if so, where is the source file?
>
> If not, will Vista allow a non-MS browser to replace it, without creating
> yet more problems?

I would first make sure the issue really is IE. As stated earlier, download
Mozilla, and do the same download tests as you did with IE. If the
downloads are the same as IE, then something else may be causing
the slowness and IE to crash.

You mention a new system that "crashed" and had to be re-imaged,
you could have a hardware problem that is causing the issues.

TDM

Did you call Acer and report the problem?
"Silvabod" <nospam@thank.you> wrote in message
news:ueQrFqnwIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My brand-new Acer Aspire M5100 pc, 2 gig RAM, pre-installed Vista Home
> Premium had a fatal crash, so a complete disk format/reinstall from the
> hidden disk partition via Acer's "Empowering Technology" was done. I have
> no OS disk.
>
> Then, I uninstalled the bundled demo progs (Office 2007, Norton, etc) and
> did full updates. My AV is AVG 7.5 (not 8, which is documented as giving
> problems).
>
> Despite all this, IE7 continues to be "flaky", has never run correctly.
> (before and after SP1).
>
> I have 2 meg rated cable, yet downloads (from any source, incl MS) are
> continually hanging, to the point where memories of dial-up come to haunt
> me. Tests on PCPitstop report download/upload within a few % of ISP's
> claims (1.83mb down, 186 kb up being the norm). A "definitions" download
> of 1.2mb took nearly 4 minutes, and the 66mb Vista SP1 took half an hour.
>
> Further - IE7 totally crashes when trying to print a web page. Fault
> report says it's with mshtml.dll, but the only MSN site report I found on
> this is one I read for 10 minutes before realising it was for XP and
> earlier, not Vista. IE7's "online search for solution" does nothing
> except delay the restart of itself.
>
> I'm not a novice - my "old" pc is still running the original installation
> of XP with few problems and no crashes (and I date back to the dark ages
> of Win3.1 in maintaining home pc's for the family).
>
> Rather than waste a further 3 days on another new installation, updates,
> drivers etc ... can I just install IE7 as a "clean" install. Is this
> possible? if so, where is the source file?
>
> If not, will Vista allow a non-MS browser to replace it, without creating
> yet more problems?

"Silvabod" <nospam@thank.you> wrote in message
news:ueQrFqnwIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My brand-new Acer Aspire M5100 pc, 2 gig RAM, pre-installed Vista Home
> Premium had a fatal crash, so a complete disk format/reinstall from the
> hidden disk partition via Acer's "Empowering Technology" was done. I have
> no OS disk.
>
> Then, I uninstalled the bundled demo progs (Office 2007, Norton, etc) and
> did full updates. My AV is AVG 7.5 (not 8, which is documented as giving
> problems).
>
> Despite all this, IE7 continues to be "flaky", has never run correctly.
> (before and after SP1).
>
> I have 2 meg rated cable, yet downloads (from any source, incl MS) are
> continually hanging, to the point where memories of dial-up come to haunt
> me. Tests on PCPitstop report download/upload within a few % of ISP's
> claims (1.83mb down, 186 kb up being the norm). A "definitions" download
> of 1.2mb took nearly 4 minutes, and the 66mb Vista SP1 took half an hour.
>
> Further - IE7 totally crashes when trying to print a web page. Fault
> report says it's with mshtml.dll, but the only MSN site report I found on
> this is one I read for 10 minutes before realising it was for XP and
> earlier, not Vista. IE7's "online search for solution" does nothing
> except delay the restart of itself.
>
> I'm not a novice - my "old" pc is still running the original installation
> of XP with few problems and no crashes (and I date back to the dark ages
> of Win3.1 in maintaining home pc's for the family).
>
> Rather than waste a further 3 days on another new installation, updates,
> drivers etc ... can I just install IE7 as a "clean" install. Is this
> possible? if so, where is the source file?
>
> If not, will Vista allow a non-MS browser to replace it, without creating
> yet more problems?
I have Vista Ultimate. I have been using AVG 7.5 (until two weeks ago, when
I upgraded to 8.0). I have the following Browsers, many of which may be open
at any one time (all are at the moment):
IE7
Firefox 2.0...
Netscape 9
Opera 9.27
Avant 11
Flock 1.1
The World 2.0
Safari 3.1.3

You shouldn't attemt to uninstall IE7. It is required to run Windows Update.