"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message
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> RHF wrote:
>
>>
>> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
>> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
>> PC Users Dilemma.
>>
> This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.
> Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.

Eee PC?

<cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message
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> Windows XP is fast, RELIABLE, and meets the needs of the vast
> majority of PC users

Agreed. XP is now seasoned with the kinks ironed out and now they want to
discontinue it.

All that does is support an already bloated and costly PC support business
to release beta-Vista and discontinue XP.

> Save Windows XP

Microsoft will make more money if they kill it. Customer needs and
preferences are down the priority list somewhere. Plus, the egg factor.
Corporate executives often would rather lose customers than admit they
fouled up something fearce.

> The vast majority of people I know are moving from Windows to a Mac;

They just made Apples half the floor space on my last visit to the local
computer store. And 2/3rds the people were in that space. No doubt, Apple
is getting the high end.

But looking at the low end, Eee PC, they can't keep the Linux versions in
stock.

>I think Microsoft would notice at some point that it's consumer base
>is eroding..

They get the numbers faster than anyone else. I am sure they are aware.

> It's really a shame that a safe, reliable OS like Windows XP is being
> abandoned by Microsoft

Self destructive actually.

Dzomlija wrote:
> cheley_bonstell88;734728 Wrote:
>> Worth Saving Windows XP, in the opinion of over 200,000
>>
>> 'Save Windows XP | InfoWorld' (http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/)
>
>
> Have you never heard the phrase "The needs of the many outweigh the
> needs or the few"?
>
> The needs of 200,000 people who want to keep XP can hardly be compared
> to those of 120,000,000 who want to embrace the future and continue
> using Vista...
>
>

I think you mixed up those numbers, s/b:

> The needs of 120,000,000 people who want to keep XP can hardly be
> compared to those of 200,000 who want to embrace the future and
> continue using Vista...

;)

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

Is THAT what you are?
"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message
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> Unknown wrote:
>> You make it perfectly obvious you know nothing about programming, the
>> business of it, or the testing of the product.
>> What for example would be your test standards?
>
> You prove my point:
>
> Windows makes people uptight and paranoid.

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:47:08 -0400, "Billy Smith"
> <chungkingchungking******.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng.
>>> Frank
>> Watch it now, you might upset him and he will throw a temper tantrum. He's
>> so tightly wound now that he can't use his computer correctly. He might
>> heaven forbid go postal on it.
>
> Oh wow, another jackass spreading Frank's stupid lies. Just wondering
> which one of you is dumb and the other dumber?
>

I don't know Albright. You do seem to be carrying a loose in the mind
six pack of empty cans.

Canuck57 wrote:
> "Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message
> news:zZOdnXC-NebF3NjVnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> RHF wrote:
>>
>>> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
>>> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
>>> PC Users Dilemma.
>>>
>> This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.
>> Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.
>
> Eee PC?
>
>
Everex WalMart special with a Via C7D motherboard and a switching power
supply. It's a desktop. I also have an Eee 4G Surf subnotebook. Less
is more.

Unknown wrote:
> Is THAT what you are?

It depends on how much speed I take.

On Jun 2, 10:33*pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
> On Jun 2, 10:25*pm, Adam Albright <A...@ABC.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:14:20 -0400, "Billy Smith"
>
> > <chungkingchungk...******.com> wrote:
> > >I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them
> > >updated and the other for business purposes.
>
> > So many here have no idea what they're doing or why they do it. Based
> > on what you just said it suggests your turn on your computer merely to
> > see then install any new updates.
>
> > Oh wow, I'm impressed. That's like opening the refrigerator door
> > slowly to see if you can confirm the light really goes out.
>
> http://www.neowin.net/index.php
>
> On June 30, Microsoft is scheduled to pull the OEM distribution plug
> on Windows XP. In 30 days. That's all before the older operating
> system largely disappears from new PCs. The "largely" qualifier is
> because downgrade rights will still be available to some customers,
> and system builders can ship PCs with XP through January 2009.
>
> The next 30 days are crucial for anyone still wanting to easily obtain
> Windows XP on new PCs. But why wait? Why not try Vista, and only
> Vista, for the next 30 days? Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock pioneered the
> 30-days concept in the movie "Supersize Me," where he only ate
> McDonalds food for, you guessed it, 30 days. The concept continues in
> the FX series "30 Days." I don't believe that Morgan has done a 30-day
> stretch with Windows Vista, but maybe he should.



Users Not Upgrading XP to Vista (Even with SP1), SP3 Didn't Do it
- Microsoft wakes up to the sound of silence where upgrades should be


http://news.softpedia.com/news/Users...It-85969.shtml

Just growing up!

Pete

"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message
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> Pete KE9OA wrote:
>>
>> Linux is still my favorite operating platform, but unfortunately, it is
>> incompatible with the electrical engineering programs that I use. When it
>> eventually grows up, I thing Linux will be the way to go.
>
> Adolescence? Prepubescence?
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/electronics/

True, but neither ADS, Orcad, Protel DXP, or PCAD run on that platform. The
cheaper under 1000 dollar programs might, but none of the heavy hitters.
Still, Linux is my favorite operating system. No bloatware with that
platform, no gigantic system requirement that Microsoft requires. Linux has
great potential.

Pete

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message
> news:6bKdneoQktzGT9zVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>> Pete KE9OA wrote:
>>>
>>> Linux is still my favorite operating platform, but unfortunately, it is
>>> incompatible with the electrical engineering programs that I use. When
>>> it eventually grows up, I thing Linux will be the way to go.
>>
>> Adolescence? Prepubescence?
>>
>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/electronics/
>
> Probably is. A simple google search for "linux electrical engineering"
> gets lots of hits.
>
>
>

On Jun 4, 4:04*pm, "Pete KE9OA" <p.gian...@comcast.net> wrote:
> True, but neither ADS, Orcad, Protel DXP, or PCAD run on that platform. The
> cheaper under 1000 dollar programs might, but none of the heavy hitters.
> Still, Linux is my favorite operating system. No bloatware with that
> platform, no gigantic system requirement that Microsoft requires. Linux has
> great potential.
>
> Pete
>
> "Canuck57" <dave-no_s...@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>
> news:6tu0k.310167$pM4.139399@pd7urf1no...
>
>
>
> > "Dave" <nos...@biteme.com> wrote in message
> >news:6bKdneoQktzGT9zVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@earthlink.c om...
> >> Pete KE9OA wrote:
>
> >>> Linux is still my favorite operating platform, but unfortunately, it is
> >>> incompatible with the electrical engineering programs that I use. When
> >>> it eventually grows up, I thing Linux will be the way to go.
>
> >> Adolescence? *Prepubescence?
>
> >>http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/electronics/
>
> > Probably is. *A simple google search for "linux electrical engineering"
> > gets lots of hits.

Agree, Linux / Ubuntu is an amazing system. Thousands of programs
( Free !)

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...n&sitesearch=#

On Jun 2, 10:33*pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
> On Jun 2, 10:25*pm, Adam Albright <A...@ABC.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:14:20 -0400, "Billy Smith"
>
> > <chungkingchungk...******.com> wrote:
> > >I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them
> > >updated and the other for business purposes.
>
> > So many here have no idea what they're doing or why they do it. Based
> > on what you just said it suggests your turn on your computer merely to
> > see then install any new updates.
>
> > Oh wow, I'm impressed. That's like opening the refrigerator door
> > slowly to see if you can confirm the light really goes out.
>
> http://www.neowin.net/index.php
>
> On June 30, Microsoft is scheduled to pull the OEM distribution plug
> on Windows XP. In 30 days. That's all before the older operating
> system largely disappears from new PCs. The "largely" qualifier is
> because downgrade rights will still be available to some customers,
> and system builders can ship PCs with XP through January 2009.
>
> The next 30 days are crucial for anyone still wanting to easily obtain
> Windows XP on new PCs. But why wait? Why not try Vista, and only
> Vista, for the next 30 days? Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock pioneered the
> 30-days concept in the movie "Supersize Me," where he only ate
> McDonalds food for, you guessed it, 30 days. The concept continues in
> the FX series "30 Days." I don't believe that Morgan has done a 30-day
> stretch with Windows Vista, but maybe he should.


Is THIS Really Windows 7 ?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...n&sitesearch=#

<cheley_bonstell88@live.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 10:33 pm, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
> On Jun 2, 10:25 pm, Adam Albright <A...@ABC.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:14:20 -0400, "Billy Smith"
>
> > <chungkingchungk...******.com> wrote:
> > >I use all of my computers in about a weeks time frame. One to keep them
> > >updated and the other for business purposes.
>
> > So many here have no idea what they're doing or why they do it. Based
> > on what you just said it suggests your turn on your computer merely to
> > see then install any new updates.
>
> > Oh wow, I'm impressed. That's like opening the refrigerator door
> > slowly to see if you can confirm the light really goes out.
>
> http://www.neowin.net/index.php
>
> On June 30, Microsoft is scheduled to pull the OEM distribution plug
> on Windows XP. In 30 days. That's all before the older operating
> system largely disappears from new PCs. The "largely" qualifier is
> because downgrade rights will still be available to some customers,
> and system builders can ship PCs with XP through January 2009.
>
> The next 30 days are crucial for anyone still wanting to easily obtain
> Windows XP on new PCs. But why wait? Why not try Vista, and only
> Vista, for the next 30 days? Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock pioneered the
> 30-days concept in the movie "Supersize Me," where he only ate
> McDonalds food for, you guessed it, 30 days. The concept continues in
> the FX series "30 Days." I don't believe that Morgan has done a 30-day
> stretch with Windows Vista, but maybe he should.


Is THIS Really Windows 7 ?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...n&sitesearch=#

Clicking on above, I got the Link comparing Vista with Ubuntu, isn't Beryl
nice?

But Windows 7 is Vista regurgitated. So in fact it may be the same piece of
crap as Vista.

"Linux1" <Linux1@Linux.1com> wrote in message
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> Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:47:08 -0400, "Billy Smith"
>> <chungkingchungking******.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Yeah, adam albright is the real nut case of this ng.
>>>> Frank
>>> Watch it now, you might upset him and he will throw a temper tantrum.
>>> He's so tightly wound now that he can't use his computer correctly. He
>>> might heaven forbid go postal on it.
>>
>> Oh wow, another jackass spreading Frank's stupid lies. Just wondering
>> which one of you is dumb and the other dumber?
>>
>
> I don't know Albright. You do seem to be carrying a loose in the mind six
> pack of empty cans.

Its actually half bright or perhaps not so bright. That would be a great
name for him. He's a few screws loose. A happy meal without the fries type
of guy

"Dave" <nospam@biteme.com> wrote in message
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> RHF wrote:
>
>>
>> -ps- Five (5) Years is almost Two (2) Life Cycles in the ever
>> changing Softwave-and-Hardware Turn-Over-and-Upgrade
>> PC Users Dilemma.
>>
> This is stupid. There is no reason to overhaul your PC every 30 months.
> Think of the toxic waste. My computer uses 12 Watts.

And your computer still doesn't work