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05-20-2008, 02:40 AM
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| Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim      |
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05-20-2008, 03:40 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is not digital ready. If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and the TVs are a lot cheaper. "jim" <jim@home.net> wrote in message news:4OxYj.25248$C8.21645@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. . > As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out > of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone > for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's > $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). > > Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are > set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy > treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. > > As reported on CNET > (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has > been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the > February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions > without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will > not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital > converter. > > That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for > less than a year without the new digital signal converters. > > Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on > people's PCs. > > jim > > |
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "jim" <jim@home.net> wrote in message news:4OxYj.25248$C8.21645@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. . > As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right > out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets > the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that > Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). > > Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are > set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy > treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. > > As reported on CNET > (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy > has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready > for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) > televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that > the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an > additional digital converter. > > That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work > for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. > > Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on > people's PCs. > > jim > Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "jim" <jim@home.net> wrote in message news:4OxYj.25248$C8.21645@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. . > > As reported on CNET > (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy > has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready > for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) > televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that > the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an > additional digital converter. > > That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work > for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. > Actually it indicates how inaccurate CNET or someone who may have edited their report may be. Those TVs will still function and only those who rely on antenna signals, not those who are getting dish or cable who will have no problems. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit |
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05-20-2008, 05:10 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs > will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major > computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs > second to making money.. > exactly, same goes for Microsoft. |
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05-20-2008, 05:30 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. "Mark H" <jmhonzell@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:O9e3xzmuIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is > not > digital ready. > > If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and > the > TVs are a lot cheaper. > > > "jim" <jim@home.net> wrote in message > news:4OxYj.25248$C8.21645@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. . >> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right > out >> of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the > tone >> for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's >> $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). >> >> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are >> set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy >> treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. >> >> As reported on CNET >> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy > has >> been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for > the >> February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) >> televisions >> without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets > will >> not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital >> converter. >> >> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work > for >> less than a year without the new digital signal converters. >> >> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on >> people's PCs. >> >> jim >> >> > > |
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? Of course you are right, but why wouldn't Best Buy tell their customers this? "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:7BF56597-8493-4E6E-B9D9-EA06038C1D16@microsoft.com... > The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with > over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. > > "Mark H" <jmhonzell@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:O9e3xzmuIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is >> not >> digital ready. >> >> If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and >> the >> TVs are a lot cheaper. >> >> >> "jim" <jim@home.net> wrote in message >> news:4OxYj.25248$C8.21645@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. . >>> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right >> out >>> of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the >> tone >>> for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's >>> $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). >>> >>> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations >>> are >>> set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy >>> treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. >>> >>> As reported on CNET >>> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy >> has >>> been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for >> the >>> February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) >>> televisions >>> without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets >> will >>> not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital >>> converter. >>> >>> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work >> for >>> less than a year without the new digital signal converters. >>> >>> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on >>> people's PCs. >>> >>> jim >>> >>> >> >> > |
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05-20-2008, 06:30 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message news:eEuN3nnuIHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs >> will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major >> computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs >> second to making money.. >> > > exactly, same goes for Microsoft. > > And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message news:OB8GRUouIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message > news:eEuN3nnuIHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >> news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs >>> will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major >>> computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs >>> second to making money.. >>> >> >> exactly, same goes for Microsoft. >> >> > > > And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to the customer runs second to making money. |
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05-20-2008, 06:50 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? John - I'm confused regarding "...service to the customer runs second to making money. .." - what companies can you name whose sole purpose is NOT to "make money"? BTW - It is unfortunate that mose people have no other recourse then to use Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. for advice and service . "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message news:%23wwV8WouIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:OB8GRUouIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:eEuN3nnuIHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs >>>> will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major >>>> computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs >>>> second to making money.. >>>> >>> >>> exactly, same goes for Microsoft. >>> >>> >> >> >> And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. > > glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to > the customer runs second to making money. > |
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05-20-2008, 07:30 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message news:%23wwV8WouIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:OB8GRUouIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:eEuN3nnuIHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs >>>> will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major >>>> computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs >>>> second to making money.. >>>> >>> >>> exactly, same goes for Microsoft. >>> >>> >> >> >> And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. > > glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to > the customer runs second to making money. > Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development, nada.. Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises.. Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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05-20-2008, 07:40 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:7BF56597-8493-4E6E-B9D9-EA06038C1D16@microsoft.com... > The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with > over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. I don't know about what you call these in America, but we do not call them converter boxes. They are digital terrestrial receivers, as these analogue TVs just lack digital tuners. ss. |
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05-20-2008, 08:20 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote: >The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with >over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception might not do so well with digital signals. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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05-20-2008, 08:40 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message news:uywxy4ouIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message > news:%23wwV8WouIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >> news:OB8GRUouIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:eEuN3nnuIHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs >>>>> will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major >>>>> computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer >>>>> runs second to making money.. >>>>> >>>> >>>> exactly, same goes for Microsoft. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. >> >> glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to >> the customer runs second to making money. >> > > > Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development, > nada.. > > Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises.. > > Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine.. you took my statement and added "And..." that generally means in addition to. sounded like an agreement to me. |
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05-20-2008, 09:00 AM
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| Re: Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC? On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:32:22 -0400, "john" <john@msn.com> wrote: > >"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >news:uywxy4ouIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:%23wwV8WouIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >>> news:OB8GRUouIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:eEuN3nnuIHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23gMUH1muIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>> Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs >>>>>> will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major >>>>>> computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer >>>>>> runs second to making money.. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> exactly, same goes for Microsoft. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. >>> >>> glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to >>> the customer runs second to making money. >>> >> >> >> Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development, >> nada.. >> >> Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises.. >> >> Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine.. > >you took my statement and added "And..." >that generally means in addition to. >sounded like an agreement to me. > Always fun to watch Mike Hall try to wiggle out of what he said. Memo to Mike Hall: The word 'and' is intended to indicate some connection or additions to what was previously said. Often used to express logical modification, some consequence or supplementary explanation to another. May be used to form a conjunction, list more of the same or of a similar kind. Always amusing to see the Microsoft fateful exclude Microsoft from what they admit are a laundry list of sins of other software companies, software/hardware retailers etc., when everybody knows Microsoft is the biggest offender when it comes to poor service, crappy always buggy products and attempts to bully and be the 800 pound gorilla in the room. You see Mike, that MVP badge you so love to flash around looks pretty tarnished when you always excuse Microsoft no matter what pretending they are guiltless, like a good little fanboy is suppose to do. |
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