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Old 05-15-2008, 09:20 AM
Shane
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Opening bkf files in Vista

Hi,
I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted this
in the wrong place.

I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
Vista?
I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.

Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?

Rgds,
Shane
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

"Shane" <Shane@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted
> this
> in the wrong place.
>
> I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
> Vista?
> I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
> But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.
>
> Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?
>



This is just ANOTHER example of MS not doing ANY joined-up thinking AT ALL.
The same thing happened with the backup utility in Windows 98 - the files
couldn't be read by the XP backup utility, and now the backup files created
in XP can't be read by Vista.
I'm afraid, AFAIK, that your only course of action is to find an XP machine,
restore the data and use some other method of transferring it.

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Old 05-15-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

You can restore a backup created on a previous version of Windows (the
backup file will have a .bkf file name extension) by using Windows NT Backup
Restore Utility. For more information on system requirements and how to
download and run this program, go to the Microsoft Windows NT Backup Restore
Utility website.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
To run Windows NT Backup Restore Utility, you need to turn on Removable
Storage Management.
To turn on Removable Storage Management
Open "Programs and Features" in Control Panel.
In the left pane, click Turn Windows features on or off. If you are
prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or
provide confirmation.
Select the check box next to Removable Storage Management to turn the
feature on, and then click OK.
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"Shane" <Shane@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted
> this
> in the wrong place.
>
> I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
> Vista?
> I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
> But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.
>
> Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?
>
> Rgds,
> Shane


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Old 05-15-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

Windows Vista Help: Restore a backup created on a previous version of Windows:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...ca1ab1033.mspx

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"Shane" <Shane@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:61B98A39-D065-4C68-9C25-FFA5EBCE2182@microsoft.com...
Hi,
I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted this
in the wrong place.

I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
Vista?
I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.

Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?

Rgds,
Shane
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en


"Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Shane" <Shane@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:61B98A39-D065-4C68-9C25-FFA5EBCE2182@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>> I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted
>> this
>> in the wrong place.
>>
>> I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
>> Vista?
>> I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
>> But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.
>>
>> Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?
>>

>
>
> This is just ANOTHER example of MS not doing ANY joined-up thinking AT
> ALL. The same thing happened with the backup utility in Windows 98 - the
> files couldn't be read by the XP backup utility, and now the backup files
> created in XP can't be read by Vista.
> I'm afraid, AFAIK, that your only course of action is to find an XP
> machine, restore the data and use some other method of transferring it.


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Old 05-15-2008, 10:10 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

"Rojo Habe" <noem@iladdres.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>


That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to download
another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup utilities?

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Old 05-15-2008, 10:10 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

"Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
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>Windows Vista Help: Restore a backup created on a previous version of
>Windows:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...ca1ab1033.mspx



That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to download
another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup utilities?

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Old 05-15-2008, 10:20 AM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

"Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:8F9C58C0-339A-4CE4-A307-C3AC1BFADD5A@microsoft.com...
> You can restore a backup created on a previous version of Windows (the
> backup file will have a .bkf file name extension) by using Windows NT
> Backup Restore Utility. For more information on system requirements and
> how to download and run this program, go to the Microsoft Windows NT
> Backup Restore Utility website.
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en


That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to download
another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup utilities?

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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

"Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Rojo Habe" <noem@iladdres.com> wrote in message
> news:eHYOSLrtIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>

>
> That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
> utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
> download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
> utilities?


The new 'vhd file format is better, as you can also mount them in virtual
machines and use them as hard drives.

ss.


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Old 05-15-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista



"Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
> news:Oj85rKrtIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>Windows Vista Help: Restore a backup created on a previous version of
>>Windows:
>>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...ca1ab1033.mspx

>
>
> That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
> utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
> download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
> utilities?



If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the OS
would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the complexity
of the OS itself.
The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.

C.B.


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Old 05-15-2008, 01:50 PM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

"C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g0hu8r$2p8$1@news.mixmin.net...
>> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
>> news:Oj85rKrtIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>Windows Vista Help: Restore a backup created on a previous version of
>>>Windows:
>>>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...ca1ab1033.mspx

>>
>>
>> That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
>> utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
>> download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
>> utilities?

>
>
> If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
> compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the
> OS would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
> Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
> want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the
> complexity of the OS itself.
> The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.


Sorry, that's utter rubbish. Office 2007 will open files created in ALL the
previous versions.
You don't have to download a utility to enable Word 2007 to open Word 95
files.
Surely SOMEONE at MS should have realised that many people, when prompted to
upgrade to the next version of Windows, were going to use the in-built
backup utility to backup their data before upgrading?
It's nothing to do with bloat, and ALL to do with total un-joined up
thinking and complete lack of common sense and planning.
Which is one reason I don't touch the in-built MS backup functions with a
barge pole.

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Old 05-15-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:26:13 -0400, "C.B."
<notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote:

>> That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
>> utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
>> download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
>> utilities?

>
>
> If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
>compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the OS
>would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
> Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
>want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the complexity
>of the OS itself.
> The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.


Well put.
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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:45:35 +0100, "Gordon"
<gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote:

>Surely SOMEONE at MS should have realised that many people, when prompted to
>upgrade to the next version of Windows, were going to use the in-built
>backup utility to backup their data before upgrading?
>It's nothing to do with bloat, and ALL to do with total un-joined up
>thinking and complete lack of common sense and planning.
>Which is one reason I don't touch the in-built MS backup functions with a
>barge pole.


General opinion is that the built-in backup function just plain
sucks anyway. Heck, most folks don't even KNOW about it, and if
they do, they don't know where to find it and/or how to install
it.


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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:09:59 -0500, Nonny <nonnymoose******.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:45:35 +0100, "Gordon"
> <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Surely SOMEONE at MS should have realised that many people, when prompted to
> >upgrade to the next version of Windows, were going to use the in-built
> >backup utility to backup their data before upgrading?
> >It's nothing to do with bloat, and ALL to do with total un-joined up
> >thinking and complete lack of common sense and planning.
> >Which is one reason I don't touch the in-built MS backup functions with a
> >barge pole.

>
> General opinion is that the built-in backup function just plain
> sucks anyway.



I think that's far too strong a statement. Yes, there are lots better
products on the market, and I recommend using one like Acronis True
Image instead.

On the other hand, Windows backup *does* work, and it's far better
than nothing.



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Re: Opening bkf files in Vista

Gordon,

You don't use it, but yet you complain?
Furthermore if MS did integrated it in Visa for backward compatibility like
Office as you stated, it's most likely it would require far more code than
any 3rd. party app out there that does the job.

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>>
>>
>> "Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:g0hu8r$2p8$1@news.mixmin.net...
>>> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <ramesh@unknownhost> wrote in message
>>> news:Oj85rKrtIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>Windows Vista Help: Restore a backup created on a previous version of
>>>>Windows:
>>>>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...ca1ab1033.mspx
>>>
>>>
>>> That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
>>> utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
>>> download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
>>> utilities?

>>
>>
>> If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
>> compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the
>> OS would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
>> Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
>> want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the
>> complexity of the OS itself.
>> The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.

>
> Sorry, that's utter rubbish. Office 2007 will open files created in ALL
> the previous versions.
> You don't have to download a utility to enable Word 2007 to open Word 95
> files.
> Surely SOMEONE at MS should have realised that many people, when prompted
> to upgrade to the next version of Windows, were going to use the in-built
> backup utility to backup their data before upgrading?
> It's nothing to do with bloat, and ALL to do with total un-joined up
> thinking and complete lack of common sense and planning.
> Which is one reason I don't touch the in-built MS backup functions with a
> barge pole.
>


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