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Old 05-09-2008, 04:20 PM
Adam Albright
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
<ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.[/color]

What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.

It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.

A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.

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Old 05-09-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
> <ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.[/color]
>
> What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
> how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
> Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
> rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
> upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>
> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
> numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
> number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
> HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
> includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
> people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>
> A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
> activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
> fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.[/color]

And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not call
home for updates any more.

We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of Vista.


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Old 05-09-2008, 05:00 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?


"Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...[color=blue]
> Canuck57 wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>> news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>><ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>
>>>What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>
>>>It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>
>>>A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.[/color]
>>
>>
>> And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>> call home for updates any more.
>>
>> We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>> That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of Vista.[/color]
> If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
> Well, maybe...LOL!
> Frank[/color]

Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
posting.


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Old 05-09-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?


Interestingly still no one else is coming close to them in the market other than themselves.
It must be good being your own competitor.

"> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the[color=blue]
> numbers" - Quote you.[/color]

Tell us, or me, how do they cook the numbers?

- GorkusPuss

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
> <ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>> Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>> that somehow vista is actually a successful product.[/color]
>
> What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
> how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
> Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
> rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
> upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>
> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
> numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
> number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
> HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
> includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
> people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>
> A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
> activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
> fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>[/color]
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:20 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?

Canuck57 wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
> news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>[color=green]
>>Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>>><ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>>
>>>>What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>>how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>>Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>>rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>>upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>>
>>>>It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>>numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>>number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>>HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>>includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>>people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>>
>>>>A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>>activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>>fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>>>
>>>
>>>And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>>>call home for updates any more.
>>>
>>>We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>>>That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of Vista.[/color]
>>
>>If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
>>Well, maybe...LOL!
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
> Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
> posting.
>
>[/color]
Sorry loser, I own the company which I'm in the process of selling to
one of my oldest employees.
I'm only here to make sure the transition goes smoothly.
In the mean time I like busting the balls of losers like you!...LOL!
Frank
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?


"Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
news:4824e8e9$0$30495$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...[color=blue]
> Canuck57 wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
>> news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Canuck57 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>>>><ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>>>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>>>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>>>
>>>>>What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>>>how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>>>Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>>>rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>>>upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>>>numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>>>number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>>>HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>>>includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>>>people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>>>
>>>>>A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>>>activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>>>fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>>>>call home for updates any more.
>>>>
>>>>We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>>>>That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of
>>>>Vista.
>>>
>>>If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
>>>Well, maybe...LOL!
>>>Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
>> posting.[/color]
> Sorry loser, I own the company which I'm in the process of selling to one
> of my oldest employees.
> I'm only here to make sure the transition goes smoothly.
> In the mean time I like busting the balls of losers like you!...LOL!
> Frank[/color]

The reason you don't feel your busted balls, is that they were broken beyond
hope quite some time ago.

LOL. Need to get PAN for XP, so I can killfile you. Or use Ubuntu where you
are killfiled.


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Old 05-09-2008, 05:40 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?

Canuck57 wrote:[color=blue]
> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
> news:4824e8e9$0$30495$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>[color=green]
>>Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
>>>news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>>>>><ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>>>>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>>>>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>>>>how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>>>>Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>>>>rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>>>>upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>>>>numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>>>>number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>>>>HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>>>>includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>>>>people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>>>>activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>>>>fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>>>>>call home for updates any more.
>>>>>
>>>>>We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>>>>>That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of
>>>>>Vista.
>>>>
>>>>If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
>>>>Well, maybe...LOL!
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
>>>posting.[/color]
>>
>>Sorry loser, I own the company which I'm in the process of selling to one
>>of my oldest employees.
>>I'm only here to make sure the transition goes smoothly.
>>In the mean time I like busting the balls of losers like you!...LOL!
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
> The reason you don't feel your busted balls, is that they were broken beyond
> hope quite some time ago.
>
> LOL. Need to get PAN for XP, so I can killfile you. Or use Ubuntu where you
> are killfiled.[/color]


Like I give a rat's ass about you or what you do.
Frank[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?

On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:14:35 -0700, Frank <fb@signm.crt> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Canuck57 wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
>> news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Canuck57 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>>>><ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>>>Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>>>that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>>>
>>>>>What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>>>how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>>>Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>>>rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>>>upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>>>numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>>>number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>>>HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>>>includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>>>people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>>>
>>>>>A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>>>activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>>>fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>>>>call home for updates any more.
>>>>
>>>>We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>>>>That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of Vista.
>>>
>>>If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
>>>Well, maybe...LOL!
>>>Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
>> posting.
>>
>>[/color]
>Sorry loser, I own the company which I'm in the process of selling to
>one of my oldest employees.[/color]

You're just a delusional old fool already in or getting close to being
put in some insane asylum.

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Old 05-09-2008, 06:50 PM
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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?

On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:01:16 +1000, GorkusPuss <g_p@msnews.grp> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>Interestingly still no one else is coming close to them in the market other than themselves.
>It must be good being your own competitor.
>
>"> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the[color=green]
> > numbers" - Quote you.[/color]
>
>Tell us, or me, how do they cook the numbers?[/color]

Microsoft has a long history of voodoo accountability. I defy anyone
to point to any legitimate source that shows how many Vista licensees
have actually been activated. Microsoft won't say. It is all smoke and
mirrors.

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GorkusPuss wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Interestingly still no one else is coming close to them in the market
> other than themselves. It must be good being your own competitor.
>
> "> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the[color=green]
> > numbers" - Quote you.[/color]
>
> Tell us, or me, how do they cook the numbers?
>
> - GorkusPuss
>
> Adam Albright wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>> <ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>> Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>> that somehow vista is actually a successful product.[/color]
>>
>>
>> What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>> how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>> Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>> rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>> upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>> numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>> number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>> HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>> includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>> people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>
>> A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>> activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>> fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.[/color][/color]

You're asking a failed accountant that even the union (mob) had no use
for. He fukked up their books so badly he had to "retire", or else they
would "retire" his dumb fukkin stupid ass permanently.
Basically, he's lucky he can still walk...that is if he can!...LOL!
Frank
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:30 PM
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Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:01:16 +1000, GorkusPuss <g_p@msnews.grp> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Interestingly still no one else is coming close to them in the market other than themselves.
>> It must be good being your own competitor.
>>
>> "> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the[color=darkred]
>> > numbers" - Quote you.[/color]
>>
>> Tell us, or me, how do they cook the numbers?[/color]
>
> Microsoft has a long history of voodoo accountability. I defy anyone
> to point to any legitimate source that shows how many Vista licensees
> have actually been activated. Microsoft won't say. It is all smoke and
> mirrors.
>[/color]

Sorry AA, I assumed you knew which is why I asked, I won't ask for an explanation of voodoo
accounting, but it says a lot for superstition if it got MS to where they are today. If this
is how you feel about 'number cooking', or 'cooking numbers' I stress that you keep away
from looking into the practices of the U.S Federal Reserve, major and minor banks, the
dynamics of the stock markets regarding share, foreign exchange, bond, etc pricing. You will
really lose your nerve if that's how MS made you feel over 'number cooking', but you don't
know what is either.

Back to the subject of this thread being, 'How to keep making money while making CRAP
products?' Look into;

- McDonalds
- KFC
- Burger King
- Chrysler
- Socks made in China

If you want a more idealistic view like, 'Not making money from bad products', look into;

- RedHat Linux (for the desktop).

Speaking of which, this Vista catastrophic blunder MS done to itself, who was there to fill
the vacuum with a good product, any Linux, Apple takers? No. I do know the answer to that
question, but it's really nothing to worry over.

- GorkusPuss
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:40 AM
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"GorkusPuss" <g_p@msnews.grp> wrote in message
news:OPyb1amsIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
> - McDonalds[/color]

Imagine if McDonnald's didn't sell Big Macs?
[color=blue]
> - KFC[/color]

Imagine if KFC didn't sell chicken?
[color=blue]
> - Burger King[/color]

Burger King tried a spoof on this. [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVm84MD4vU4[/url]
[color=blue]
> - Chrysler[/color]

They are going down the toilet as their products suck.
[color=blue]
> - RedHat Linux (for the desktop).[/color]

Red Hat revenues are up as are their stock.

5 year view:
[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MSFT#chart3:symbol=msft;range=5y;compare=rht;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined[/url]

3 month view:
[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MSFT#chart5:symbol=msft;range=3m;compare=rht;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined[/url]
[color=blue]
> Speaking of which, this Vista catastrophic blunder MS done to itself, who
> was there to fill the vacuum with a good product, any Linux, Apple takers?
> No. I do know the answer to that question, but it's really nothing to
> worry over.[/color]

Linux and Apple for many are filling the gap. That is why MSFT is rushing
Win7. They know if Linux ever gets any momentum that Gates and Ballmer cash
cows would be in serious trouble.

Linux isn't going to roll over MSFT for just Vista, it will be more like
death from a million tiny cuts.

Something like what MSFT did to NOVL, what goes around comes around.


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Old 05-10-2008, 09:20 AM
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Canuck57 wrote:[color=blue]
> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
> news:4824e8e9$0$30495$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...[color=green]
>> Canuck57 wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
>>> news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>> Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>>>>> <ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>>>> Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>>>> that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>>>> What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>>>> how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>>>> Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>>>> rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>>>> upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>>>> numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>>>> number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>>>> HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>>>> includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>>>> people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>>>> activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>>>> fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>>>>>
>>>>> And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>>>>> call home for updates any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>>>>> That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of
>>>>> Vista.
>>>> If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
>>>> Well, maybe...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
>>> posting.[/color]
>> Sorry loser, I own the company which I'm in the process of selling to one
>> of my oldest employees.
>> I'm only here to make sure the transition goes smoothly.
>> In the mean time I like busting the balls of losers like you!...LOL!
>> Frank[/color]
>
> The reason you don't feel your busted balls, is that they were broken beyond
> hope quite some time ago.
>
> LOL. Need to get PAN for XP, so I can killfile you. Or use Ubuntu where you
> are killfiled.
>
>[/color]

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Canuck57 wrote:[color=blue]
> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
> news:4824e8e9$0$30495$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...[color=green]
>> Canuck57 wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
>>> news:4824e435$0$30498$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>> Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:p4m924hh8ff7fjupnju1mefc7a4g6mm12u@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:54 +0300, "Chin Yang"
>>>>>> <ChinYang@sangaimarket.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im fed up reading posts about how MS has sold 140 million liscences of
>>>>>>> Vista, trying to feed us the notion
>>>>>>> that somehow vista is actually a successful product.
>>>>>> What do you expect from the simpletons that hang out here? It is all
>>>>>> how you look at the numbers. Microsoft claims it has around a billion
>>>>>> Windows installs worldwide. If "only" 140 million licenses have been
>>>>>> rendered for Vista that's roughly 10% of the install base that have
>>>>>> upgraded and Vista has been out over a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is even more revealing when you look at how Microsoft cooks the
>>>>>> numbers. It isn't raw sales, not even close, much of their Vista
>>>>>> number is for licenses in some pre build box that HP, Dell, others
>>>>>> HOPE to sell. I would suspect (but don't know) that the number also
>>>>>> includes boxes not yet sold. Then we have the question of how many
>>>>>> people actually replace the preinstalled Vista with something else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A real test would be the number of copies of Vista that have been
>>>>>> activated. That Microsoft won't tell and I'll wager it at best is a
>>>>>> fraction of that tossed around 140 million number.
>>>>>
>>>>> And better yet, how many show up registered than after 2-4 weeks do not
>>>>> call home for updates any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do know this, the XP sales were unexpectedly up by 50% or something.
>>>>> That means a lot of people are paying the double dip to get rid of
>>>>> Vista.
>>>> If you had a functioning brain you might be able to get a job.
>>>> Well, maybe...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Don't have to. Semi-retired fool. Notice you appear unemployed and day
>>> posting.[/color]
>> Sorry loser, I own the company which I'm in the process of selling to one
>> of my oldest employees.
>> I'm only here to make sure the transition goes smoothly.
>> In the mean time I like busting the balls of losers like you!...LOL!
>> Frank[/color]
>
> The reason you don't feel your busted balls, is that they were broken beyond
> hope quite some time ago.
>
> LOL. Need to get PAN for XP, so I can killfile you. Or use Ubuntu where you
> are killfiled.
>
>[/color]

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Re: How to keep making money while making CRAP products?

Canuck57 wrote:
[color=blue]
> "GorkusPuss" <g_p@msnews.grp> wrote in message
> news:OPyb1amsIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>[color=green]
>>- McDonalds[/color]
>
>
> Imagine if McDonnald's didn't sell Big Macs?
>
>[color=green]
>>- KFC[/color]
>
>
> Imagine if KFC didn't sell chicken?
>
>[color=green]
>>- Burger King[/color]
>
>
> Burger King tried a spoof on this. [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVm84MD4vU4[/url]
>
>[color=green]
>>- Chrysler[/color]
>
>
> They are going down the toilet as their products suck.
>
>[color=green]
>>- RedHat Linux (for the desktop).[/color]
>
>
> Red Hat revenues are up as are their stock.
>
> 5 year view:
> [url]http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MSFT#chart3:symbol=msft;range=5y;compare=rht;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined[/url]
>
> 3 month view:
> [url]http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MSFT#chart5:symbol=msft;range=3m;compare=rht;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined[/url]
>
>[color=green]
>>Speaking of which, this Vista catastrophic blunder MS done to itself, who
>>was there to fill the vacuum with a good product, any Linux, Apple takers?
>>No. I do know the answer to that question, but it's really nothing to
>>worry over.[/color]
>
>
> Linux and Apple for many are filling the gap. That is why MSFT is rushing
> Win7. They know if Linux ever gets any momentum that Gates and Ballmer cash
> cows would be in serious trouble.
>
> Linux isn't going to roll over MSFT for just Vista, it will be more like
> death from a million tiny cuts.
>
> Something like what MSFT did to NOVL, what goes around comes around.
>
>[/color]
Yeah and that will happen when minkies come flying out of your fat
stupid ass!...LOL!
What a hate filled delusional loser you are!
Frank
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