On Wed, 7 May 2008 14:27:53 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:
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>
> t-4-2;705501 Wrote:[color=green]
> > Hello ,
> > If I were to "ditch" this computer and buy a new one, do I have to
> > re-register with new names, password and such, or can I retain my old
> > settings ?[/color]
> Pardon me. I meant re-register to this forum.[/color]


This "forum" you are using is nothing more than a web-based interface
that sucks up postings from the Microsoft newsgroups, repackages them,
and presents them to you as if they were doing you a service. It's a
very poor way to access the newsgroups, not to mention that you are
supporting what many of us consider to be a dishonest way of
presenting themselves.

Most of us here use the newsgroups directly, with our newsreader,
where no registration is required. I strongly recommend that you, and
anyone else using one of those forums, do the same. See
[url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm[/url] It's
about Outlook Express, but it's almost identical in Windows Mail,
which comes with Vista.




--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

the news server (NNTP) this group is on is msnews.microsoft.com
whatever 'display' name you put in is what will show up on posts
you do not have to register

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A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
[email]CarGodZeroOne********.com[/email]
Change Alpha to Numeric to reply

"t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:0e37456feb8a3a1043f1a646cbbb666a@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> Ken Blake, MVP;705587 Wrote:[color=green]
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 14:27:53 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>> wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > t-4-2;705501 Wrote:
>> > > Pardon me. I meant re-register to this forum. > >[/color]
>>
>>
>> This "forum" you are using is nothing more than a web-based interface
>> that sucks up postings from the Microsoft newsgroups, repackages
>> them,
>> and presents them to you as if they were doing you a service. It's a
>> very poor way to access the newsgroups, not to mention that you are
>> supporting what many of us consider to be a dishonest way of
>> presenting themselves.
>>
>> Most of us here use the newsgroups directly, with our newsreader,
>> where no registration is required. I strongly recommend that you, and
>> anyone else using one of those forums, do the same. See
>> 'Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader'
>> ([url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm[/url]) It's
>> about Outlook Express, but it's almost identical in Windows Mail,
>> which comes with Vista.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]
> Hello Ken,
> I have Microsoft Communities activated in my Windows Mail. Are they the
> same as what you described "Microsoft Newsgroups "? I realise that at
> least most of my posts reappeared in one of those MS Comm., but I don't
> use them because I don't like the setup, ie. those (+) and (-), and most
> important of all I'd like to be notified if I had a reply to my post(s)
> which is not available there. But if that's not the same as yours, then
> I'll have to ask my ISP for the name of NNTP , whatever that is. Unless
> you can shed some light to this matter.Thank you.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

hello
I did have to get live ID and I sign in if I like to post
dont like reading from mail box either
--
lucky me I guess


"Not Me" wrote:
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> the news server (NNTP) this group is on is msnews.microsoft.com
> whatever 'display' name you put in is what will show up on posts
> you do not have to register
>
> --
> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
> [email]CarGodZeroOne********.com[/email]
> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
>
> "t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:0e37456feb8a3a1043f1a646cbbb666a@nntp-gateway.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Ken Blake, MVP;705587 Wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> On Wed, 7 May 2008 14:27:53 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > t-4-2;705501 Wrote:
> >> > > Pardon me. I meant re-register to this forum. > >
> >>
> >>
> >> This "forum" you are using is nothing more than a web-based interface
> >> that sucks up postings from the Microsoft newsgroups, repackages
> >> them,
> >> and presents them to you as if they were doing you a service. It's a
> >> very poor way to access the newsgroups, not to mention that you are
> >> supporting what many of us consider to be a dishonest way of
> >> presenting themselves.
> >>
> >> Most of us here use the newsgroups directly, with our newsreader,
> >> where no registration is required. I strongly recommend that you, and
> >> anyone else using one of those forums, do the same. See
> >> 'Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader'
> >> ([url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm[/url]) It's
> >> about Outlook Express, but it's almost identical in Windows Mail,
> >> which comes with Vista.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]
> > Hello Ken,
> > I have Microsoft Communities activated in my Windows Mail. Are they the
> > same as what you described "Microsoft Newsgroups "? I realise that at
> > least most of my posts reappeared in one of those MS Comm., but I don't
> > use them because I don't like the setup, ie. those (+) and (-), and most
> > important of all I'd like to be notified if I had a reply to my post(s)
> > which is not available there. But if that's not the same as yours, then
> > I'll have to ask my ISP for the name of NNTP , whatever that is. Unless
> > you can shed some light to this matter.Thank you.
> >
> >
> > --
> > t-4-2[/color]
>[/color]

In article <27482433-94E8-4B9B-8AFB-31EC3DFEE46E@microsoft.com>,
Not Me <cargodZeroOne********.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>the news server (NNTP) this group is on is msnews.microsoft.com[/color]

No it's not. It's on news.panix.com.

>> the news server (NNTP) this group is on is msnews.microsoft.com[color=blue][color=green]
>>[/color]
> No it's not. It's on news.panix.com.
>[/color]

Half right.
'It's on news.panix.com' - Correct.
'No it's not' - not correct, since, in fact, the news group is, indeed, on
msnews.microsoft.com.
--
John Eddy

IT MAY BE MIRRORED TO THERE, BUT THE PRIMARY LOCATION IS THE ONE I GAVE.

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fvu0kg$5ar$1@reader2.panix.com...[color=blue]
> In article <27482433-94E8-4B9B-8AFB-31EC3DFEE46E@microsoft.com>,
> Not Me <cargodZeroOne********.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>the news server (NNTP) this group is on is msnews.microsoft.com[/color]
>
> No it's not. It's on news.panix.com.
>[/color]

In article <74243f341b8078ca7ea5d43f42d0@msnews.microsoft.com>,
John Eddy <jaydeflix******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>the news group is, indeed, on msnews.microsoft.com.
>--[/color]

That's a cheap copy.

In article <FC57C962-37C4-4125-8F19-EF0D07127948@microsoft.com>,
Not Me <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote:[color=blue]
>IT MAY BE MIRRORED TO THERE, BUT THE PRIMARY LOCATION IS THE ONE I GAVE.
>[/color]

Nahhhhhh.

There's no such thing as a primary location on Usenet. It's
*entirely* *distributed*.

In article <07a68b2ba341a92f979f467f146a1477@nntp-gateway.com>,
t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>OK, guys and gals. Which one do I use ?? "news.panx.com " or
>msnews.microsoft.com" . Don't fight, but I'd like to know which.
>[/color]

Well, you can't use news.panix.com unless you get an account
at panix. I guess you could use that microsoft thing but I'm tellin ya
it's nothing but a *cheap* *imitation*.

Or you could get an account at painx! They're a really great ISP
and they support trn!

On Thu, 8 May 2008 00:40:03 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:
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>OK, guys and gals. Which one do I use ?? "news.panx.com " or
>msnews.microsoft.com"[/color]

The latter. No registration or logon required.

On Thu, 8 May 2008 00:40:03 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:
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>
> John Eddy;705893 Wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >> the news server (NNTP) this group is on is msnews.microsoft.com> > >
> > > > No it's not. It's on news.panix.com.
> > > > > >[/color]
> >
> > Half right.
> > 'It's on news.panix.com' - Correct.
> > 'No it's not' - not correct, since, in fact, the news group is,
> > indeed, on
> > msnews.microsoft.com.
> > --
> > John Eddy[/color]
>
> Not Me;705907 Wrote:[color=green]
> > IT MAY BE MIRRORED TO THERE, BUT THE PRIMARY LOCATION IS THE ONE I GAVE.
> >
> > "the wharf rat" <wrat@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:fvu0kg$5ar$1@xxxxxx> > >[color=darkred]
> > > > In article <27482433-94E8-4B9B-8AFB-31EC3DFEE46E@xxxxxx>,
> > > > Not Me <cargodZeroOne@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No it's not. It's on news.panix.com.
> > > > > >[/color][/color]
> OK, guys and gals. Which one do I use ?? "news.panx.com " or
> msnews.microsoft.com" . Don't fight, but I'd like to know which.[/color]


This is primarily a newsgroup hosted by microsoft at the news server
msnews.microsoft.com. Like almost all other newsgroups, it is also
mirrored to hundred or thousands of other news servers all over the
world (including, but certainly not limited to, news.panix.com).

You can use any news server you want that carries the newsgroup, but I
recommend msnews.microsoft.com, since that's what most of us here use,
and will therefore give you the quickest access to posted messages.

From a practical standpoint, you have two main choices: use the server
Microsoft provides, msnews.microsoft.com, or use the news server your
ISP provides (if they do; ask them). Other news servers are available,
but some of them will charge you, and some others carry fewer
newsgroups or have restrictions on what you can do. There's certainly
no reason to choose any other than Microsoft's or your ISP's, unless
you also want access to newsgroups that you can't get on one of those.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:49:16 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:
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>
> Ken Blake, MVP;706314 Wrote:[color=green]
> > On Thu, 8 May 2008 00:40:03 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> > wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Eddy;705893 Wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not Me;705907 Wrote:
> > > > OK, guys and gals. Which one do I use ?? "news.panx.com " or
> > > > msnews.microsoft.com" . Don't fight, but I'd like to know which. > >[/color]
> >
> >
> > This is primarily a newsgroup hosted by microsoft at the news server
> > msnews.microsoft.com. Like almost all other newsgroups, it is also
> > mirrored to hundred or thousands of other news servers all over the
> > world (including, but certainly not limited to, news.panix.com).
> >
> > You can use any news server you want that carries the newsgroup, but
> > I
> > recommend msnews.microsoft.com, since that's what most of us here
> > use,
> > and will therefore give you the quickest access to posted messages.
> >
> > From a practical standpoint, you have two main choices: use the
> > server
> > Microsoft provides, msnews.microsoft.com, or use the news server your
> > ISP provides (if they do; ask them). Other news servers are
> > available,
> > but some of them will charge you, and some others carry fewer
> > newsgroups or have restrictions on what you can do. There's certainly
> > no reason to choose any other than Microsoft's or your ISP's, unless
> > you also want access to newsgroups that you can't get on one of
> > those.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Thank you. I am now using the msnews.microsoft.com. It's the same as
> the ones on Microsoft Communities which is provided by Windows, and as
> stated before, I don't like it. I felt confined, and worst of all, I
> don't get notified if I have replies on my threads. Who wants to scroll
> to my threads ,which will be all over, and find out if I have replies or
> not ??[/color]


Notifying you of activity in threads in which you are participating is
not a function of the news server, it's a function of the newsgroup
client you are using.

Some newsgroup clients can do this, but others may not. I'm using
Forte Agent here. I have it set to mark threads in which I'm
participating as "watched" and I have messages sorted to display
watched threads first.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Thu, 8 May 2008 23:28:23 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:
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>> Notifying you of activity in threads in which you are participating
>> is
>> not a function of the news server, it's a function of the newsgroup
>> client you are using.
>>
>> Some newsgroup clients can do this, but others may not. I'm using
>> Forte Agent here. I have it set to mark threads in which I'm
>> participating as "watched" and I have messages sorted to display
>> watched threads first.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]
>Hello Ken,
>I'm still "in the dark". When I " registered" in this Vistax64.com, I
>have the option to notify me when I get replies on the threads I
>participated. I was asked where to send the nitifications and I gave
>them one of my e-mail addresses. So, this vistax64.com is a newsgroup
>client ?[/color]

Ken is confused. He missed that you're talking about a web-based
service. That's the only way you can get email notification about
replies to what you've posted.

You cannot get anything similar by using a newsgroup client.

On Thu, 8 May 2008 23:28:23 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:
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>
> Ken Blake, MVP;706700 Wrote:[color=green]
> > On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:49:16 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> > wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ken Blake, MVP;706314 Wrote:> >
> > > > >
> > > > Thank you. I am now using the msnews.microsoft.com. It's the same as
> > > > the ones on Microsoft Communities which is provided by Windows, and
> > > as
> > > > stated before, I don't like it. I felt confined, and worst of all, I
> > > > don't get notified if I have replies on my threads. Who wants to
> > > scroll
> > > > to my threads ,which will be all over, and find out if I have replies
> > > or
> > > > not ?? > >[/color]
> >
> >
> > Notifying you of activity in threads in which you are participating
> > is
> > not a function of the news server, it's a function of the newsgroup
> > client you are using.
> >
> > Some newsgroup clients can do this, but others may not. I'm using
> > Forte Agent here. I have it set to mark threads in which I'm
> > participating as "watched" and I have messages sorted to display
> > watched threads first.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]
> Hello Ken,
> I'm still "in the dark". When I " registered" in this Vistax64.com, I
> have the option to notify me when I get replies on the threads I
> participated. I was asked where to send the nitifications and I gave
> them one of my e-mail addresses. So, this vistax64.com is a newsgroup
> client ?[/color]


No, you're using a web-based forum. That's very far from a newsgroup
client. The newsgroup client that comes with Vista is called Windows
Mail.

You can't configure a newsgroup client to send you E-mail
notifications, but you can configure it to highlight messages in
threads you're involved in, and put them first in the list of threads
That's what I was recommending above.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Thu, 08 May 2008 23:59:02 -0500, Nonny <nonnymoose******.com>
wrote:
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> On Thu, 8 May 2008 23:28:23 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Notifying you of activity in threads in which you are participating
> >> is
> >> not a function of the news server, it's a function of the newsgroup
> >> client you are using.
> >>
> >> Some newsgroup clients can do this, but others may not. I'm using
> >> Forte Agent here. I have it set to mark threads in which I'm
> >> participating as "watched" and I have messages sorted to display
> >> watched threads first.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]
> >Hello Ken,
> >I'm still "in the dark". When I " registered" in this Vistax64.com, I
> >have the option to notify me when I get replies on the threads I
> >participated. I was asked where to send the nitifications and I gave
> >them one of my e-mail addresses. So, this vistax64.com is a newsgroup
> >client ?[/color]
>
> Ken is confused. He missed that you're talking about a web-based
> service.[/color]


No, not at all. I began my participation in this thread by pointing
out that that's what he was doing, and recommending that he switch to
a newsreader instead.

[color=blue]
> That's the only way you can get email notification about
> replies to what you've posted.
> You cannot get anything similar by using a newsgroup client.[/color]


That's correct. However he can overcome his stated objection to using
a newsreader ("Who wants to scroll to my threads ,which will be all
over, and find out if I have replies or not ??") by following the
advice I gave.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup