I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the Start
button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a term
and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among the
list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs, Help
and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to search -- I
usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching the
Internet with this option.

Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed. I
located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it there
(ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that I
can enter information in the search box!!!

Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I can
solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to the
desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.

Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
MaryL

One shortcut command that would work like that is:
%userprofile%/searches

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"MaryL" <stancole1******.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
news:#guasjLqIHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the Start
> button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a
> term and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there
> was previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was
> among the list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default
> Programs, Help and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter
> locations to search -- I usually only want to search Drive C and am not
> interested in searching the Internet with this option.
>
> Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
> mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed.
> I located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it
> there (ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
> located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that I
> can enter information in the search box!!!
>
> Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I can
> solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to the
> desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.
>
> Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
> MaryL[/color]

Overview of Windows Vista desktop search Changes in Windows Vista Service Pack 1
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q941946[/url]

Microsoft details Vista SP1 search changes
[url]http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/09/12/Microsoft-details-Vista-SP1-search-changes_1.html[/url]

How to Restore the Search Context Menu Item after Installing the Vista SP1
[url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/134065-search-context-menu-item-restore-after-vista-sp1.html[/url]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

---------------------------------------------------------------

"MaryL" wrote:

I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the Start
button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a term
and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among the
list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs, Help
and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to search -- I
usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching the
Internet with this option.

Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed. I
located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it there
(ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that I
can enter information in the search box!!!

Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I can
solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to the
desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.

Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
MaryL

I don't understand this at all. I checked all three links you provided.
The third link *looked* like it should provide what I want. Instead, there
was a "free download" for ErrorSmart, which seems to be a diagnostics
program that provided a very quick scan of my system. ErrorSmart reported
that I have 448 errors on my system. To fix the errors, I would have to
purchase their program! I did not see any reference at all to restoring the
Search function that I wanted (although the opening page claimed that).

Once again, have I missed something? What if I simply use System Restore to
go back *before* SP1 was installed? Would that solve my problem, or would I
be creating still others?

Thanks,
MaryL

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
news:uwLokuLqIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Overview of Windows Vista desktop search Changes in Windows Vista Service
> Pack 1
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q941946[/url]
>
> Microsoft details Vista SP1 search changes
> [url]http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/09/12/Microsoft-details-Vista-SP1-search-changes_1.html[/url]
>
> How to Restore the Search Context Menu Item after Installing the Vista SP1
> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/134065-search-context-menu-item-restore-after-vista-sp1.html[/url]
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "MaryL" wrote:
>
> I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the Start
> button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a
> term
> and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
> previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among
> the
> list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs, Help
> and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to search --
> I
> usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching the
> Internet with this option.
>
> Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
> mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed.
> I
> located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it
> there
> (ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
> located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that I
> can enter information in the search box!!!
>
> Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I can
> solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to the
> desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.
>
> Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
> MaryL[/color]

This should work:

Restore the Start menu Search link in Vista Service Pack 1
[url]http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/restore-the-start-menu-search-link-in-vista-service-pack-1/[/url]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

---------------------------------------------------------------

"MaryL" <stancole1******.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message news:%23N%23PveMqIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I don't understand this at all. I checked all three links you provided.
The third link *looked* like it should provide what I want. Instead, there
was a "free download" for ErrorSmart, which seems to be a diagnostics
program that provided a very quick scan of my system. ErrorSmart reported
that I have 448 errors on my system. To fix the errors, I would have to
purchase their program! I did not see any reference at all to restoring the
Search function that I wanted (although the opening page claimed that).

Once again, have I missed something? What if I simply use System Restore to
go back *before* SP1 was installed? Would that solve my problem, or would I
be creating still others?

Thanks,
MaryL

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
news:uwLokuLqIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Overview of Windows Vista desktop search Changes in Windows Vista Service
> Pack 1
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q941946[/url]
>
> Microsoft details Vista SP1 search changes
> [url]http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/09/12/Microsoft-details-Vista-SP1-search-changes_1.html[/url]
>
> How to Restore the Search Context Menu Item after Installing the Vista SP1
> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/134065-search-context-menu-item-restore-after-vista-sp1.html[/url]
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "MaryL" wrote:
>
> I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the Start
> button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a
> term
> and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
> previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among
> the
> list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs, Help
> and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to search --
> I
> usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching the
> Internet with this option.
>
> Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
> mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed.
> I
> located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it
> there
> (ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
> located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that I
> can enter information in the search box!!!
>
> Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I can
> solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to the
> desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.
>
> Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
> MaryL[/color]

This is a correction to my previous message. I had not scrolled down far
enough (in other words, to get past the ErrorSmart download). When I
finally did that, I found the instructions for replacing the Search option I
want. However: One option says that the Search button will replace either
the Help and Support button or the Run button. I certainly do not want to
replace Help and Support. Ironically, the Run button also seems to already
be missing! Another option was to pin the Search button to the Start menu.
However, it says that will not work with Classic (which I use). Finally, it
says I can create a shortcut to the desktop. When I tried to do that, I
could not go any farther because it says I am not logged in. It seems I
need a password to go any farther.

Do you have any suggestions? And, to go back to my thoughts before I found
these instructions -- What if I simply use System Restore to go back
*before* SP1 was installed? Would that solve my problem, or would I be
creating still others?

MaryL[color=blue]
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
> news:uwLokuLqIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Overview of Windows Vista desktop search Changes in Windows Vista Service
>> Pack 1
>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q941946[/url]
>>
>> Microsoft details Vista SP1 search changes
>> [url]http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/09/12/Microsoft-details-Vista-SP1-search-changes_1.html[/url]
>>
>> How to Restore the Search Context Menu Item after Installing the Vista
>> SP1
>> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/134065-search-context-menu-item-restore-after-vista-sp1.html[/url]
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience -
>> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "MaryL" wrote:
>>
>> I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the
>> Start
>> button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a
>> term
>> and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
>> previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among
>> the
>> list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs,
>> Help
>> and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to
>> search -- I
>> usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching
>> the
>> Internet with this option.
>>
>> Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
>> mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed.
>> I
>> located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it
>> there
>> (ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
>> located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that I
>> can enter information in the search box!!!
>>
>> Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I can
>> solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to
>> the
>> desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.
>>
>> Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
>> MaryL[/color]
>[/color]

"t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:56f69638412807b9831f14d1c426acec@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> MaryL;696014 Wrote:[color=green]
>> I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the
>> Start
>> button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a
>> term
>> and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
>> previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among
>> the
>> list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs,
>> Help
>> and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to search
>> -- I
>> usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching
>> the
>> Internet with this option.
>>
>> Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
>> mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed.
>> I
>> located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it
>> there
>> (ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
>> located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that
>> I
>> can enter information in the search box!!!
>>
>> Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I
>> can
>> solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to
>> the
>> desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.
>>
>> Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
>> MaryL[/color]
> Hello MaryL,
> Today is your LUCKY day. You can have your Search menu back on the
> right side AND you can have a search shortcut too !! The link below will
> show you how to restore the search menu, and read the " related links "
> section, you'll find out about the short cut.
>
> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/145787-search-start-menu-button-restore-after-sp1.html[/url]
>
> Let me know if that helps.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

No, so far I have been unsuccessful. I just posted a message (actually, my
second response) to Carey Frisch that details the problems I had.

Thanks,
MaryL

"t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:dc468eb7e3cb6bdd38b77de0236ba7eb@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> t-4-2;696119 Wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > MaryL;696107 Wrote:
>> > "t-4-2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> > news:56f69638412807b9831f14d1c426acec@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>> >
>> > No, so far I have been unsuccessful. I just posted a message (actually,
>> > my
>> > second response) to Carey Frisch that details the problems I had.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > MaryL> >[/color]
>> Hello MaryL,
>> Yes, I've read your replies to Carey Frisch.
>> As to the search menu restore to the right panel, to replace Help and
>> Support does not mean you won't have it anymore. You can still call it
>> up through search box.
>> As to the shortcut, I just did one on my desktop . Here is a
>> screenshot showing the zipped file and the eventual shortcut. What's
>> wrong with entering your password ?
>> Of course you can do a system restore if you're willing to give up
>> SP1.
>>
>> 3643[/color]
> Additional infos :
> I was using the link I gave you, and I was never asked for password
> installing the shortcut. Were you logged on in admin account ?
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

When I get to the place to click on search.zip to download the shortcut, a
dialog box says "You are not logged in or you do not have permission to
access this page." The problem is that I have never seen Vista Forums
before, and I do not have a password or username. Is this a group that I
should consider joining so that I will have a password?

I am the administrator on my computer. It is configured so that I am never
asked for administrator rights when I install a program. Incidentally, Run
(in addition to Search) has also been missing since installing SP1. Is
there any real benefit to SP1, as far as you know, and would I lose much by
using System Restore to go back to before it was installed?

It may be that I will have to give up the quick access to Help and Restore
that I like since I do use Search far more often.

Thanks,
MaryL

"t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:dc468eb7e3cb6bdd38b77de0236ba7eb@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> t-4-2;696119 Wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > MaryL;696107 Wrote:
>> > "t-4-2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> > news:56f69638412807b9831f14d1c426acec@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>> >
>> > No, so far I have been unsuccessful. I just posted a message (actually,
>> > my
>> > second response) to Carey Frisch that details the problems I had.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > MaryL> >[/color]
>> Hello MaryL,
>> Yes, I've read your replies to Carey Frisch.
>> As to the search menu restore to the right panel, to replace Help and
>> Support does not mean you won't have it anymore. You can still call it
>> up through search box.
>> As to the shortcut, I just did one on my desktop . Here is a
>> screenshot showing the zipped file and the eventual shortcut. What's
>> wrong with entering your password ?
>> Of course you can do a system restore if you're willing to give up
>> SP1.
>>
>> 3643[/color]
> Additional infos :
> I was using the link I gave you, and I was never asked for password
> installing the shortcut. Were you logged on in admin account ?
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

Success! I decided to register for Vista Forums since both you and Carey
Frisch had directed me to that site. I did experiment a couple of times,
and I had to enter my password each time I went through the procedure. It
looks like this will be a good site for future information, too. But I am
frustrated by losing some of the functionality I had in XP, although I like
Vista overall. The change to Windows Mail with OE7 is one of the things I
regret.

MaryL

"t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:61ca3544ec16f6ec2eb950581245011c@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> MaryL;696187 Wrote:[color=green]
>> "t-4-2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:dc468eb7e3cb6bdd38b77de0236ba7eb@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >[color=darkred]
>> > >
>> > > t-4-2;696119 Wrote:
>> > > Additional infos :
>> > > I was using the link I gave you, and I was never asked for password
>> > > installing the shortcut. Were you logged on in admin account ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > t-4-2 > >[/color]
>>
>> When I get to the place to click on search.zip to download the
>> shortcut, a
>> dialog box says "You are not logged in or you do not have permission
>> to
>> access this page." The problem is that I have never seen Vista Forums
>> before, and I do not have a password or username. Is this a group
>> that I
>> should consider joining so that I will have a password?
>>
>> I am the administrator on my computer. It is configured so that I am
>> never
>> asked for administrator rights when I install a program.
>> Incidentally, Run
>> (in addition to Search) has also been missing since installing SP1.
>> Is
>> there any real benefit to SP1, as far as you know, and would I lose
>> much by
>> using System Restore to go back to before it was installed?
>>
>> It may be that I will have to give up the quick access to Help and
>> Restore
>> that I like since I do use Search far more often.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> MaryL[/color]
> Hello MaryL,
> I'll work my way from back to front.
> 1. It's your call : Search or Help and Support.
> 2. SP1 is supposed to fix the bugs from Vista. As it turns out, the
> bug-fixer has bugs of its own. If your were content with the ways it
> were before SP1, un-install it. Wait till Microsoft finds a way to
> de-bug SP1, then get it.
> 3. It's never a good idea to have an administrator account Without
> password,
> 4. From the way you put it, my guess is someone helped you disable the
> User Account Control (UAC). " It is configured so that I am never asked
> for administrator rights ---"
> 5. Here is a link called "Take Ownership of an Item ". Have it
> installed. When you get to the stage to open the search.zip, Right click
> on the zipped file, click Take Ownership, then open the file. The rest
> should be smooth sailing. Here is the link :
>
> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html[/url]
>
> Almost forgot. The " password " the computer was asking is the password
> you are "supposed" to enter each time you log on to your computer. But
> you said you don't have that. It has NOTHING to do with joining this
> forum.
> Keep me informed. Good luck.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

Hi,

Thanks for the information. Just to clarify: I bought the full version of
Vista instead of OEM, and the Staples Geek Squad set it up. That's why I
have administrator rights but no password. I admit that I requested it. No
one has access to my computer except me, and the constant for administrator
rights used to drive me crazy when XP in my office required that. After I
registered for Vista Forums and entered a password, I was able to download
the search button to my desktop -- so, in this case, it really was a Vista
Forums password that was needed. I did not need a password to open the link
you provided or to navigate within it. However, I had to have one when I
clicked on search.zip to download the icon to my desktop.

Again, thanks for your help.
MaryL

Hi Mary,

You will need to run regedit to accomplish this. I was pretty annoyed at
Microsoft for doing this too. I cannot imagine WHY it had to take away all
reference to the search function in order to allow other search engines. I
don't want to install a Google search.

Open Regedit
Navigate to:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\find
In the right pane, right click on LegacyDisable and click Delete.
Click Yes to confirm deletion.
Restart.

Cheers,
Lara

The Vista Forums Link you and Carey Gave requires you to login to their site
in order to get their solution. Personally I think that is in poor taste.
Therefore I have given Mary the proper procedure without having to login to
any 3rd party site.

It was nothing to do with the admin password or anything.

Cheers,
Lara

"t-4-2" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> MaryL;696187 Wrote:[color=green]
> > "t-4-2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> > news:dc468eb7e3cb6bdd38b77de0236ba7eb@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > > t-4-2;696119 Wrote:
> > > > Additional infos :
> > > > I was using the link I gave you, and I was never asked for password
> > > > installing the shortcut. Were you logged on in admin account ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > t-4-2 > >[/color]
> >
> > When I get to the place to click on search.zip to download the
> > shortcut, a
> > dialog box says "You are not logged in or you do not have permission
> > to
> > access this page." The problem is that I have never seen Vista Forums
> > before, and I do not have a password or username. Is this a group
> > that I
> > should consider joining so that I will have a password?
> >
> > I am the administrator on my computer. It is configured so that I am
> > never
> > asked for administrator rights when I install a program.
> > Incidentally, Run
> > (in addition to Search) has also been missing since installing SP1.
> > Is
> > there any real benefit to SP1, as far as you know, and would I lose
> > much by
> > using System Restore to go back to before it was installed?
> >
> > It may be that I will have to give up the quick access to Help and
> > Restore
> > that I like since I do use Search far more often.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > MaryL[/color]
> Hello MaryL,
> I'll work my way from back to front.
> 1. It's your call : Search or Help and Support.
> 2. SP1 is supposed to fix the bugs from Vista. As it turns out, the
> bug-fixer has bugs of its own. If your were content with the ways it
> were before SP1, un-install it. Wait till Microsoft finds a way to
> de-bug SP1, then get it.
> 3. It's never a good idea to have an administrator account Without
> password,
> 4. From the way you put it, my guess is someone helped you disable the
> User Account Control (UAC). " It is configured so that I am never asked
> for administrator rights ---"
> 5. Here is a link called "Take Ownership of an Item ". Have it
> installed. When you get to the stage to open the search.zip, Right click
> on the zipped file, click Take Ownership, then open the file. The rest
> should be smooth sailing. Here is the link :
>
> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html[/url]
>
> Almost forgot. The " password " the computer was asking is the password
> you are "supposed" to enter each time you log on to your computer. But
> you said you don't have that. It has NOTHING to do with joining this
> forum.
> Keep me informed. Good luck.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2
>[/color]

"lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8CF6DE64-B1CB-4DAC-AC9C-2D00A5A4E5D7@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Hi Mary,
>
> You will need to run regedit to accomplish this. I was pretty annoyed at
> Microsoft for doing this too. I cannot imagine WHY it had to take away all
> reference to the search function in order to allow other search engines. I
> don't want to install a Google search.
>
> Open Regedit
> Navigate to:
>
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\find
> In the right pane, right click on LegacyDisable and click Delete.
> Click Yes to confirm deletion.
> Restart.
>
> Cheers,
> Lara[/color]

Will that delete the Help and Support button, or will it simply add the
Search button back to its original position? (And have you also noticed
that the Run button has been missing since SP1?)

Thanks!
MaryL

"t-4-2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> MaryL;696231 Wrote:[color=green]
>> "t-4-2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:61ca3544ec16f6ec2eb950581245011c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >[color=darkred]
>> > >
>> > > MaryL;696187 Wrote:
>> > > Hello MaryL,
>> > > I'll work my way from back to front.
>> > > 1. It's your call : Search or Help and Support.
>> > > 2. SP1 is supposed to fix the bugs from Vista. As it turns out, the
>> > > bug-fixer has bugs of its own. If your were content with the ways it
>> > > were before SP1, un-install it. Wait till Microsoft finds a way to
>> > > de-bug SP1, then get it.
>> > > 3. It's never a good idea to have an administrator account Without
>> > > password,
>> > > 4. From the way you put it, my guess is someone helped you disable
>> > the
>> > > User Account Control (UAC). " It is configured so that I am never
>> > asked
>> > > for administrator rights ---"
>> > > 5. Here is a link called "Take Ownership of an Item ". Have it
>> > > installed. When you get to the stage to open the search.zip, Right
>> > click
>> > > on the zipped file, click Take Ownership, then open the file. The
>> > rest
>> > > should be smooth sailing. Here is the link :
>> > >
>> > > [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html[/url]
>> > >
>> > > Almost forgot. The " password " the computer was asking is the
>> > password
>> > > you are "supposed" to enter each time you log on to your computer.
>> > But
>> > > you said you don't have that. It has NOTHING to do with joining this
>> > > forum.
>> > > Keep me informed. Good luck.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > t-4-2 > >[/color]
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the information. Just to clarify: I bought the full
>> version of
>> Vista instead of OEM, and the Staples Geek Squad set it up. That's
>> why I
>> have administrator rights but no password. I admit that I requested
>> it. No
>> one has access to my computer except me, and the constant for
>> administrator
>> rights used to drive me crazy when XP in my office required that.
>> After I
>> registered for Vista Forums and entered a password, I was able to
>> download
>> the search button to my desktop -- so, in this case, it really was a
>> Vista
>> Forums password that was needed. I did not need a password to open
>> the link
>> you provided or to navigate within it. However, I had to have one
>> when I
>> clicked on search.zip to download the icon to my desktop.
>>
>> Again, thanks for your help.
>> MaryL[/color]
> Hello MaryL,
> Nice to know you finally got what you wanted. Just one clarification :
> it wasn't "a Vista Forum "password that got you what you wanted. It's
> because you finally gave yourself "a password" which was needed in this
> case to finish the installation. Make sure you Remember the password,
> keep it somewhere for reference. See ya.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

NO! I have lots of passwords for numerous groups (and have to keep a file so
I can remember them all). I was in the Vista Forums address, and that is
where I had to *register* and enter both a password and username. This same
password and username must be entered if I want to post anything to Vista
Forums.

MaryL

"Dzomlija" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> MaryL;696014 Wrote:[color=green]
>> I have always had two Search options under Vista. If I click on the
>> Start
>> button, there is a box at the bottom of the screen where I can enter a
>> term
>> and search. That option has never been very helpful. However, there was
>> previously another Search option after I clicked on Start. It was among
>> the
>> list on the right side that includes Control Panel, Default Programs,
>> Help
>> and Support, etc. Using that option, I could enter locations to search
>> -- I
>> usually only want to search Drive C and am not interested in searching
>> the
>> Internet with this option.
>>
>> Well, that second item seems to have disappeared! Help! Have I lost my
>> mind? As far as I can tell, this happened only after SP1 was installed.
>> I
>> located the same box by going to Help and Support and searching for it
>> there
>> (ironic, isn't it?), but I could not figure out where it is actually
>> located. It doesn't make much sense to search for a search box so that
>> I
>> can enter information in the search box!!!
>>
>> Can any of you tell from this description what has happened and how I
>> can
>> solve the problem? It would even help if I could create a shortcut to
>> the
>> desktop for that Search box, but that could not be done within the box.
>>
>> Thanks (and I hope you can decipher all this...)
>> MaryL[/color]
>
> MaryL, I've read all the replies to you original post, and noticed that
> no-one mentioned the 2 easiest shortcuts there are, instead they
> overloaded you with registry hacks and tweaks that replaced other
> functionality.
>
> To access Search, as you know it, you can either open a Windows
> Explorer view, and then use the Search box in the upper-right corner of
> the window, or you can use the <WINKEY>+<F> to open the same Search
> Window that was always opened with the Search Command on the start menu.
>[/color]

Perfect! Thanks very much.
[color=blue]
> But as for why the Search item was removed from the Start Menu, you can
> thank Google for that. They cried foul like a bunch of 5 year olds about
> it, and ran to the US Department of Justice, who in turn told Microsoft
> that they are being uncompetitive and "asked them nicely" to remove it.
> The whole idea was that Google claimed that if Search is so tightly
> integrated into the OS, then no-one will use their own products (which,
> personally, I believe is a bunch of rubbish - Windows Search is a far
> superior product)
>[/color]

I noticed references to that in the process of looking for a solution. I
would think MS could have come up with a simple alternative for those of use
who want it (such as, the easy way we had in XP of creating shortcuts to the
desktop).[color=blue]
>
> --
> Dzomlija
>
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
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