[url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]

Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
work....



--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
[url]http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/[/url]

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>
> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
> work....[/color]

Do you think, perchance, that that report by the Standish Group might be
funded by Microsoft in some way?

Have you seen the Standish Group's website? Sheesh! I wouldn't trust an
outfit like that can't even get a proper website built to mop the
floors, let alone conduct research at a thousand dollars a pop.

On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>
> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
> work....[/color]

Try to actually read the article (which obviously was put on Business
Wire for promotional purposes). The "cost" is not the expense of using
open source, it is the "lost revenue from sales of closed source
software".

``Open Source software is raising havoc throughout the software
market. It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to it
is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually, it
represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to software
companies,"''

Open source means that closed source businesses lose revenue.

The perfectly mathematically correct way of restating the above quote
is, "open source reduced software purchasing expenses by 60 billion
dollars".

I say, great story!!!

i

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>
> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
> work....[/color]


P.S. Who on earth ARE the Standish Group? The "Executive Officers" link
on their website returns this error:
Not Found
The requested URL /about/management_team.php was not found on this server.
Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.57 Server at standishgroup.com Port 80

They're a bunch of pillocks, I reckon. No sensible person should trust a
word they say.

Ignoramus29232 wrote:
[color=blue]
>On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>
>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
>> work....[/color]
>
>Try to actually read the article (which obviously was put on Business
>Wire for promotional purposes). The "cost" is not the expense of using
>open source, it is the "lost revenue from sales of closed source
>software".
>
>``Open Source software is raising havoc throughout the software
>market. It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to it
>is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually, it
>represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to software
>companies,"''
>
>Open source means that closed source businesses lose revenue.
>
>The perfectly mathematically correct way of restating the above quote
>is, "open source reduced software purchasing expenses by 60 billion
>dollars".
>
>I say, great story!!![/color]

LOL Not the first time a Wintard's fsckwitted trolling backfired, of
course... 8)

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:52:57 -0500, chrisv wrote:
[color=blue]
> Ignoramus29232 wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>>
>>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make
>>> "free Linux" work....[/color]
>>
>> Try to actually read the article (which obviously was put on
>> Business Wire for promotional purposes). The "cost" is not the
>> expense of using open source, it is the "lost revenue from sales of
>> closed source software".
>>
>> ``Open Source software is raising havoc throughout the software
>> market. It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to
>> it is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually,
>> it represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to
>> software companies,"''
>>
>> Open source means that closed source businesses lose revenue.
>>
>> The perfectly mathematically correct way of restating the above
>> quote is, "open source reduced software purchasing expenses by 60
>> billion dollars".
>>
>> I say, great story!!![/color]
>
> LOL Not the first time a Wintard's fsckwitted trolling backfired, of
> course... 8)[/color]

Oh my, and look at the cross-posting. Poor Moshe, broadcasting he's an
idiot for so many to see.

On 2008-04-17, treadmill-- with the great taste of fish <nope> wrote:[color=blue]
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>
>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
>> work....[/color]
>
>
> P.S. Who on earth ARE the Standish Group? The "Executive Officers" link
> on their website returns this error:
> Not Found
> The requested URL /about/management_team.php was not found on this server.
> Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.57 Server at standishgroup.com Port 80
>
> They're a bunch of pillocks, I reckon. No sensible person should trust a
> word they say.[/color]

If you read the article, which you did not, you would realize that the
article reflects favorably on strength of free software.

And, I would say, standishgroup is using FreeBSD.

telnet standishgroup.com 25
Trying 204.200.222.118...
Connected to standishgroup.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 standishgroup.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6; Thu, 17
Apr 2008 11:29:41 -0400 (EDT)
^]
telnet> Connection closed.

telnet standishgroup.com 22
Trying 204.200.222.118...
Connected to standishgroup.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_4.7p1-hpn12v20
FreeBSD-openssh-portable-overwrite-base-4.7.p1_1,1
^]

"Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote in message
news:4y1z20jn7n1x$.xyta2dhqu4rf.dlg@40tude.net...[color=blue]
>
> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>
> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
> work....[/color]

I read that differently. It is the software companies losing because so
many people are using open source. Probably paid for indirectly by
companies like Microsoft, Oracle and others.

You might want to try one real popular one, OO, (OpenOffice). Quit nice and
stable. You don't need to download it if you are using Linux as all the
popular Linux distributions have it already. The money saved is better
spent on beer.

[url]http://www.openoffice.org/[/url]

"treadmill-- with the great taste of fish" <nope> wrote in message
news:480760ff$0$26088$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...[color=blue]
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>
>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free
>> Linux"
>> work....[/color]
>
> Do you think, perchance, that that report by the Standish Group might be
> funded by Microsoft in some way?
>
> Have you seen the Standish Group's website? Sheesh! I wouldn't trust an
> outfit like that can't even get a proper website built to mop the floors,
> let alone conduct research at a thousand dollars a pop.[/color]

Moshe isn't reading the article.

[url]http://www.standishgroup.com/newsroom/open_source.php[/url]

So vendors like Microsoft are losing $60 billion in sales because people are
using things like OpenOffice that works across platforms, Linux, Vista, XP
whatever.

Why would a home user pay $450 for the full office when they can get
OpenOffice for free? It even had 2 features totally lacking in MS-Office
that I really like. 1) It allows me to export or save as a PDF. 2)
Supports ODF, Open Document Format.

$450 buys a lot of beer.

Canuck57 wrote:
[color=blue]
> "treadmill-- with the great taste of fish" <nope> wrote in message
> news:480760ff$0$26088$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>[color=green]
>>Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>>
>>>Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free
>>>Linux"
>>>work....[/color]
>>
>>Do you think, perchance, that that report by the Standish Group might be
>>funded by Microsoft in some way?
>>
>>Have you seen the Standish Group's website? Sheesh! I wouldn't trust an
>>outfit like that can't even get a proper website built to mop the floors,
>>let alone conduct research at a thousand dollars a pop.[/color]
>
>
> Moshe isn't reading the article.
>
> [url]http://www.standishgroup.com/newsroom/open_source.php[/url]
>
> So vendors like Microsoft are losing $60 billion in sales because people are
> using things like OpenOffice that works across platforms, Linux, Vista, XP
> whatever.
>
> Why would a home user pay $450 for the full office when they can get
> OpenOffice for free? It even had 2 features totally lacking in MS-Office
> that I really like. 1) It allows me to export or save as a PDF. 2)
> Supports ODF, Open Document Format.
>
> $450 buys a lot of beer.
>
>[/color]

Who in their right mind is paying $450USD for MS Office?
You?...LOL!
Frank

"treadmill-- with the great taste of fish" <nope> wrote in message
news:480762d8$0$26088$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...[color=blue]
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>
>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free
>> Linux"
>> work....[/color]
>
>
> P.S. Who on earth ARE the Standish Group? The "Executive Officers" link on
> their website returns this error:
> Not Found
> The requested URL /about/management_team.php was not found on this server.
> Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.57 Server at standishgroup.com Port 80
>
> They're a bunch of pillocks, I reckon. No sensible person should trust a
> word they say.[/color]

Why? Because they run open source?

Most of the web is still, much to Microsoft's disappointment and many
billions spent and loads of FUD, driven by open source. Many a MS-Windows
even run Apache.

So if your credibility is based on if they run IIS or Apache, guess what,
most of the world has no credibility for you. Which means you are paranoid.
Better not use google, Linux open source driven.

Canuck57 wrote:[color=blue]
> "treadmill-- with the great taste of fish" <nope> wrote in message
> news:480762d8$0$26088$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...[color=green]
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>>
>>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free
>>> Linux"
>>> work....[/color]
>>
>> P.S. Who on earth ARE the Standish Group? The "Executive Officers" link on
>> their website returns this error:
>> Not Found
>> The requested URL /about/management_team.php was not found on this server.
>> Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.57 Server at standishgroup.com Port 80
>>
>> They're a bunch of pillocks, I reckon. No sensible person should trust a
>> word they say.[/color]
>
> Why? Because they run open source?[/color]

No. I use open source. This was posted from my Ubuntu laptop. If
potential customers ask us for Windows hosting I tell them to go
elsewhere because my server runs Linux and Apache only, and that's the
way it will stay. Linux and Apache are far superior to any Microsoft
offering.

I should have read the article fully before posting... Doh!

[color=blue]
> Most of the web is still, much to Microsoft's disappointment and many
> billions spent and loads of FUD, driven by open source.[/color]


And long may it stay that way.

Ignoramus29232 wrote:[color=blue]
>
> If you read the article, which you did not, you would realize that the
> article reflects favorably on strength of free software.[/color]


Doh! You're right. I should have fully read the article. Sorry about that.

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:16:22 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote in message
> news:4y1z20jn7n1x$.xyta2dhqu4rf.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>>
>> [url]http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=844462[/url]
>>
>> Looks like they figured in all the time wasted trying to make "free Linux"
>> work....[/color]
>
> I read that differently. It is the software companies losing because so
> many people are using open source. Probably paid for indirectly by
> companies like Microsoft, Oracle and others.[/color]

Of course that's the way it is.
I just used a "creative subject line" just like Schestowitz does all the
time.
Funny how the Linux loons never seem to complain about that.



--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
[url]http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/[/url]

On 2008-04-17, treadmill-- with the great taste of fish <nope> wrote:[color=blue]
> Ignoramus29232 wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> If you read the article, which you did not, you would realize that the
>> article reflects favorably on strength of free software.[/color]
>
>
> Doh! You're right. I should have fully read the article. Sorry about that.[/color]

Yesterday, I made a very boneheaded post in another newsgroup, that
was based upon incorrect reading of a news article. Fortunately, no one
noticed.

i