Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,

please please add some progress information to the tool.
Thanks very much!

Max

"Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>
> please please add some progress information to the tool.
> Thanks very much![/color]

The built-in defragmenter is very much more of a background process, most
users won't ever open the UI. Even if it did have a progress bar, they're
very rarely accurate.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
[url]http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/[/url]
[url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url]

*Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*

Well, I see.
As I have disabled the background defragmenting, I run the whole thing
manually from time to time and so it would be quite nice to see a bit more
of what's going on.

Would you recommend to use another defragmentation tool?
Maybe there are some out there (maybe Freeware) that offer some
visualization.

Max

"Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:476CD09D-18E2-4A3F-801B-0935DC435810@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
> news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>>
>> please please add some progress information to the tool.
>> Thanks very much![/color]
>
> The built-in defragmenter is very much more of a background process, most
> users won't ever open the UI. Even if it did have a progress bar, they're
> very rarely accurate.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> [url]http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/[/url]
> [url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url]
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>[/color]

Most people have better things to do with their time than sit and watch
little boxes or bars being shifted around.

The Vista defragmenter is a background service that does what must be done -
when your computer is idle. It needs no interaction from you and is
sufficient for the task.


"Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>
> please please add some progress information to the tool.
> Thanks very much!
>
> Max
>[/color]

"t-4-2" <t-4-2.380la3@no-mx.forums.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:t-4-2.380la3@no-mx.forums.net...[color=blue]
>
> Markus Eßmayr;686201 Wrote:[color=green]
>> Well, I see.
>> As I have disabled the background defragmenting, I run the whole thing
>> manually from time to time and so it would be quite nice to see a bit
>> more
>> of what's going on.
>>
>> Would you recommend to use another defragmentation tool?
>> Maybe there are some out there (maybe Freeware) that offer some
>> visualization.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> "Paul Smith" <Paul@xxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:476CD09D-18E2-4A3F-801B-0935DC435810@xxxxxx> > >[color=darkred]
>> > > "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
>> > > news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@xxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > The built-in defragmenter is very much more of a background process,
>> > most
>> > > users won't ever open the UI. Even if it did have a progress bar,
>> > they're
>> > > very rarely accurate.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Paul Smith,
>> > > Yeovil, UK.
>> > > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>> > > 'Paul Smith's Blog' ([url]http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/[/url])
>> > > 'The Windows Resource' ([url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url])
>> > >
>> > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>> > > > >[/color][/color]
> Hello, Markus
> If watching the defrag in action is what you want, You can try
> Auslogics Disk Defrag. Once the defrag started, you'll see a defrag map
> colour coded, i.e. RED = fragmented, BLUE = defragmented, GREEN =
> allocated space ,YELLow = MFT , and GREY = free space. At the same time
> ,names of the files will be flashing as well as total # of files, how
> many fragmented files, how many defragmented files. At the end you can
> click open the defrag summary. Guess your mouth is watering now, right ?
> To put icing on the cake, it's free to download. Go to google search,
> enter Auslogics. OH, it is FAST.
> Personally, other than being fancy, I don't see any difference in
> result ( or lack of it ).
> Let me know how much you like it.
>
>
> --
> t-4-2[/color]

Hello,

no, it's not watching coloured boxes what I want to do.
But I just want anything to see, how long the whole thing might take.
Thats really all.
BTW, I hate every program doing something in the background!

Just downloaded the Auslogics thing and ran it on my XP box.
After clicking the button to run the defragmentation, I got a wonderful blue
screen.
Thats definitively a thing I DON'T want to see!
I really prefer seeing nothing instead of this!

Does it work on your PC?

Thanks, Max

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:OkeAjOJoIHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Most people have better things to do with their time than sit and watch
> little boxes or bars being shifted around.
>
> The Vista defragmenter is a background service that does what must be
> done - when your computer is idle. It needs no interaction from you and is
> sufficient for the task.[/color]

What I dislike is looking at the task schedular event log and see that the
defrag aborted because it ran more than 3 days. And I can see it start and
stop during each of the last 3 days. But I have no clue as to what it did.
Is it caught in a loop?

m
[color=blue]
> "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
> news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>>
>> please please add some progress information to the tool.
>> Thanks very much!
>>
>> Max
>>[/color]
>[/color]

If you want to see what's going on for free Auslogics is good. I use
Diskeeper which is not free but has a very nice interface with lots of
options like offline defrag, and automatic defrag. It's a top-notch program
and works great. It does have a full function free trial.

Mark

"Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>
> please please add some progress information to the tool.
> Thanks very much!
>
> Max
>[/color]

Markus Eßmayr wrote:[color=blue]
> "t-4-2" <t-4-2.380la3@no-mx.forums.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:t-4-2.380la3@no-mx.forums.net...
>[color=green]
>> Markus Eßmayr;686201 Wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Well, I see.
>>> As I have disabled the background defragmenting, I run the whole thing
>>> manually from time to time and so it would be quite nice to see a bit
>>> more
>>> of what's going on.
>>>
>>> Would you recommend to use another defragmentation tool?
>>> Maybe there are some out there (maybe Freeware) that offer some
>>> visualization.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> "Paul Smith" <Paul@xxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> news:476CD09D-18E2-4A3F-801B-0935DC435810@xxxxxx> > >
>>>
>>>>> "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@xxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> The built-in defragmenter is very much more of a background process,
>>>>>
>>>> most
>>>>
>>>>> users won't ever open the UI. Even if it did have a progress bar,
>>>>>
>>>> they're
>>>>
>>>>> very rarely accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Paul Smith,
>>>>> Yeovil, UK.
>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>>>>> 'Paul Smith's Blog' ([url]http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/[/url])
>>>>> 'The Windows Resource' ([url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url])
>>>>>
>>>>> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>>>>[/color]
>> Hello, Markus
>> If watching the defrag in action is what you want, You can try
>> Auslogics Disk Defrag. Once the defrag started, you'll see a defrag map
>> colour coded, i.e. RED = fragmented, BLUE = defragmented, GREEN =
>> allocated space ,YELLow = MFT , and GREY = free space. At the same time
>> ,names of the files will be flashing as well as total # of files, how
>> many fragmented files, how many defragmented files. At the end you can
>> click open the defrag summary. Guess your mouth is watering now, right ?
>> To put icing on the cake, it's free to download. Go to google search,
>> enter Auslogics. OH, it is FAST.
>> Personally, other than being fancy, I don't see any difference in
>> result ( or lack of it ).
>> Let me know how much you like it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> t-4-2
>>[/color]
>
> Hello,
>
> no, it's not watching coloured boxes what I want to do.
> But I just want anything to see, how long the whole thing might take.
> Thats really all.
> BTW, I hate every program doing something in the background!
>
> Just downloaded the Auslogics thing and ran it on my XP box.
> After clicking the button to run the defragmentation, I got a wonderful blue
> screen.
> Thats definitively a thing I DON'T want to see!
> I really prefer seeing nothing instead of this!
>
> Does it work on your PC?
>
> Thanks, Max
>
>
>[/color]
I've used Auslogics Defrag on 4 machines--2 Vista, and 2 XP. Never had
a moment's problem with it, so yes it DOES work...

Why is it so hard to understand what this person wants. A lot of people want
to see what is going on.

Mark

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:OkeAjOJoIHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Most people have better things to do with their time than sit and watch
> little boxes or bars being shifted around.
>
> The Vista defragmenter is a background service that does what must be
> done - when your computer is idle. It needs no interaction from you and is
> sufficient for the task.
>
>
> "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
> news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>>
>> please please add some progress information to the tool.
>> Thanks very much!
>>
>> Max
>>[/color]
>[/color]

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:OkeAjOJoIHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Most people have better things to do with their time than sit and watch little
> boxes or bars being shifted around.
>
> The Vista defragmenter is a background service that does what must be done - when
> your computer is idle. It needs no interaction from you and is sufficient for the
> task.[/color]

How about Microsoft letting *US* decide what we want to see or not see?
They could add an option to run in either GUI mode or in background mode.

I don't like companies (or governments or other people for that matter)
deciding what I should be allowed to see.

Tom Lake

--

Libertarian Forever!

"Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
news:uKYQiTJoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "t-4-2" <t-4-2.380la3@no-mx.forums.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:t-4-2.380la3@no-mx.forums.net...[color=green]
>>
>> Markus Eßmayr;686201 Wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Well, I see.
>>> As I have disabled the background defragmenting, I run the whole thing
>>> manually from time to time and so it would be quite nice to see a bit
>>> more
>>> of what's going on.
>>>
>>> Would you recommend to use another defragmentation tool?
>>> Maybe there are some out there (maybe Freeware) that offer some
>>> visualization.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> "Paul Smith" <Paul@xxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> news:476CD09D-18E2-4A3F-801B-0935DC435810@xxxxxx> > >
>>> > > "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
>>> > > news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@xxxxxx
>>> > >
>>> > > The built-in defragmenter is very much more of a background process,
>>> > most
>>> > > users won't ever open the UI. Even if it did have a progress bar,
>>> > they're
>>> > > very rarely accurate.
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Paul Smith,
>>> > > Yeovil, UK.
>>> > > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>>> > > 'Paul Smith's Blog' ([url]http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/[/url])
>>> > > 'The Windows Resource' ([url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url])
>>> > >
>>> > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>> > > > >[/color]
>> Hello, Markus
>> If watching the defrag in action is what you want, You can try
>> Auslogics Disk Defrag. Once the defrag started, you'll see a defrag map
>> colour coded, i.e. RED = fragmented, BLUE = defragmented, GREEN =
>> allocated space ,YELLow = MFT , and GREY = free space. At the same time
>> ,names of the files will be flashing as well as total # of files, how
>> many fragmented files, how many defragmented files. At the end you can
>> click open the defrag summary. Guess your mouth is watering now, right ?
>> To put icing on the cake, it's free to download. Go to google search,
>> enter Auslogics. OH, it is FAST.
>> Personally, other than being fancy, I don't see any difference in
>> result ( or lack of it ).
>> Let me know how much you like it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> t-4-2[/color]
>
> Hello,
>
> no, it's not watching coloured boxes what I want to do.
> But I just want anything to see, how long the whole thing might take.
> Thats really all.
> BTW, I hate every program doing something in the background!
>
> Just downloaded the Auslogics thing and ran it on my XP box.
> After clicking the button to run the defragmentation, I got a wonderful
> blue screen.
> Thats definitively a thing I DON'T want to see!
> I really prefer seeing nothing instead of this!
>
> Does it work on your PC?
>
> Thanks, Max
>I'm wondering if you downloaded Auslogics Registry Defrag. I've never heard
>of the Disk Defrag causing any problems on XP or Vista.[/color]

Mark

I use Piriform (same people that publish CCleaner) Defraggler. OK with Vista
and can defrag DriveSpace as well as files.

--

Delboy

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

Douglas Adams
"Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>
> please please add some progress information to the tool.
> Thanks very much!
>
> Max
>[/color]

I'm with you, Mark. Have been using Diskeeper for several years, now, on
several units - it's efficient and reliable, and I love being able to
customize when it does its thing and how often. I have it defragging my
tower's drives and my USB drive as well, in the wee small hours when I'm
asleep.

LesleyO

"Mark" <83097markcynt@cox.net> wrote in message
news:D6A7F87C-E74C-4392-B5D6-67D5625F935A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> If you want to see what's going on for free Auslogics is good. I use
> Diskeeper which is not free but has a very nice interface with lots of
> options like offline defrag, and automatic defrag. It's a top-notch
> program and works great. It does have a full function free trial.
>
> Mark
>
> "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
> news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>>
>> please please add some progress information to the tool.
>> Thanks very much!
>>
>> Max
>>[/color]
>[/color]

The fact remains that a greater proportion of people "never" manually
defragged their hard drives because they couldn't be "bothered" or didn't
know it should be done. So Microsoft went this way. At least the job gets
done.

Want a picture - buy a 3rd party tool!

"Mark" <83097markcynt@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BA086F5A-ADBB-414E-9376-86A89C143855@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Why is it so hard to understand what this person wants. A lot of people
> want to see what is going on.
>
> Mark
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:OkeAjOJoIHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Most people have better things to do with their time than sit and watch
>> little boxes or bars being shifted around.
>>
>> The Vista defragmenter is a background service that does what must be
>> done - when your computer is idle. It needs no interaction from you and
>> is sufficient for the task.
>>
>>
>> "Markus Eßmayr" <essmayr/at/racon-linz.at> wrote in message
>> news:%23mgfesHoIHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Hello to the defragmentation-tool-developer-team,
>>>
>>> please please add some progress information to the tool.
>>> Thanks very much!
>>>
>>> Max
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Oh for gods sake. It their product. They can design it the way they want.

"Tom Lake" <toml_12953********.com> wrote in message
news:2AF52A72-45CE-4A01-9ABD-9EB404B1AF23@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:OkeAjOJoIHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Most people have better things to do with their time than sit and watch
>> little boxes or bars being shifted around.
>>
>> The Vista defragmenter is a background service that does what must be
>> done - when your computer is idle. It needs no interaction from you and
>> is sufficient for the task.[/color]
>
> How about Microsoft letting *US* decide what we want to see or not see?
> They could add an option to run in either GUI mode or in background mode.
>
> I don't like companies (or governments or other people for that matter)
> deciding what I should be allowed to see.
>
> Tom Lake
>
> --
>
> Libertarian Forever!
>
>[/color]