Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.

Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.

"kevpan815" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>
>
>[/color]

I Wish My Doctor Would Hurry Up With More Medication. Just FYI. I Just
Can't Help Myself. Just FYI. I Should Go And Install Vista On My PC. Just
FYI.

I Need To Spend Quality Time With My Latex Girlfriend. Just FYI


"kevpan815" <kevpan815@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DCBCDBB1-DC70-4E1D-9425-65E6B85D2A6A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.
>
> "kevpan815" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just
>> FYI.
>> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Dude, that's a bit strong. I'm writing this now using Windows Mail under
Windows Vista, but the only reason I use it is to run Visual Studio. Of
course you can program .NET in Ubuntu, as well as nearly everything else you
can can do in Windows, but of course VS is better by far than anything Linux
has to offter up to .NET programmers. Oh, and I play NFSU2, which for the
life of me I couldn't get Wine to run under Ubuntu however I tried. I use
Ubuntu for everything else. There are advantages and disadvantages to both
systems...

Linux Ubuntu:

Advantages:

*It is free.
* You can install any program for practically any function you can think of,
for no cost at all, by starting up the Add/Remove program, checking the box
next to the software name and clicking Apply. This massive database of
thousands of packages is also searchable.
* It runs faster by far than Windows Vista, and is much more stable.
* Regular updates that do not require you to restart your computer nearly
every time they come.
* Ubuntu is practically immune to viruses, and there aren't any anyway. lol
* Unlike most Linux distributions, it's very easy to install proprietry
software from the menu I mentioned earlier. DVD players, MP3, MPEG support,
etc.
* Easy install of NVIDIA graphics drivers.
*A hugely powerful command line.

Disadvantages:

* It does not support many Windows applications at the moment, especially
games.
* Harldy any commercial games are programmed for Linux.
* It can be complex to install some programs and drivers that are not
directly supported by the Ubuntu Community.


Windows Vista:

Advantages:

* Lots of support by the industry. Almost all manufacturers of
hardware/software make it able to run under Windows.

I'm sorry, but this is the only advantage Windows has, although it is a very
big advantage.

Disadvantages:

* It is slow, and takes up too much memory and processing power just to sit
there displaying its posh arse. lol
* There are THOUSANDS if not millions of viruses for Windows, and although
it is more secure, Vista is still practically wide open without a 3rd party
package such as Norton IS to keep it safe, and even with protection like
Norton it is not completely immune.
*It is expensive.
*It creashes more regularly than Linux and sometimes, a restart is required.
In Linux there are seven terminal sessions open at once, six of which you
cannot see and the seventh your desktop is running on. If your dektop
freezes completely because of an application crash, simply switch to another
terminal session using a keystroke and end the application causing the
error. Then switch back to the desktop. Restart avoided, no data lost. You
would have to be a Linux guru to crash all seven terminals at once.

For me, don't know about you, these are reasons enough to be a fan of
Ubuntu. I used Windows for years, and until I used Linux I thought it was
great. Like I said, Linux can be a pain sometimes, getting things setup and
working. But once everything is as you want it it won't suddenly stop
working again or change somehow for no apparent reason. I'm glad to see the
back of Windows, but I don't think the people who prefer it to Linux suck, I
just think they're missing out.

I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol

Regards,

JM


"kevpan815" <kevpan815@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eFvn4qBoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>[/color]

James wrote:[color=blue]
> Dude, that's a bit strong. I'm writing this now using Windows Mail under
> Windows Vista, but the only reason I use it is to run Visual Studio. Of
> course you can program .NET in Ubuntu, as well as nearly everything else
> you can can do in Windows, but of course VS is better by far than
> anything Linux has to offter up to .NET programmers. Oh, and I play
> NFSU2, which for the life of me I couldn't get Wine to run under Ubuntu
> however I tried. I use Ubuntu for everything else. There are advantages
> and disadvantages to both systems...
>
> Linux Ubuntu:
>
> Advantages:
>
> *It is free.[/color]

Negated by the fact that you need to purchase Windows, which is the only
OS anyone needs cause it will run everything.
[color=blue]
> * You can install any program for practically any function you can think
> of, for no cost at all, by starting up the Add/Remove program, checking
> the box next to the software name and clicking Apply. This massive
> database of thousands of packages is also searchable.[/color]

Most are worthless.
[color=blue]
> * It runs faster by far than Windows Vista, and is much more stable.[/color]

Nope, just not true.
[color=blue]
> * Regular updates that do not require you to restart your computer
> nearly every time they come.[/color]

Nearly every time? Oh, just sometimes like Vista huh?
[color=blue]
> * Ubuntu is practically immune to viruses, and there aren't any anyway. lol[/color]

Keep telling yourself that myth. Oh, Vista is also virus safe.
[color=blue]
> * Unlike most Linux distributions, it's very easy to install proprietry
> software from the menu I mentioned earlier. DVD players, MP3, MPEG
> support, etc.[/color]

So it Vista.
[color=blue]
> * Easy install of NVIDIA graphics drivers.
> *A hugely powerful command line.[/color]

With a Matrox cards? Oh, forget about that, I had to switch to a box
with an ATI card to get it to install. Otherwise no go![color=blue]
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> * It does not support many Windows applications at the moment,
> especially games.[/color]

Then why even bother with it?
[color=blue]
> * Harldy any commercial games are programmed for Linux.[/color]

Then why bother with it?
[color=blue]
> * It can be complex to install some programs and drivers that are not
> directly supported by the Ubuntu Community.[/color]

There you go. All linux distros start out like a hobby and soon end up
as a job...that you didn't need.[color=blue]
>
>
> Windows Vista:
>
> Advantages:
>
> * Lots of support by the industry. Almost all manufacturers of
> hardware/software make it able to run under Windows.[/color]

The world runs on Windows.
Neuf said![color=blue]
>
> I'm sorry, but this is the only advantage Windows has, although it is a
> very big advantage.
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> * It is slow, and takes up too much memory and processing power just to
> sit there displaying its posh arse. lol[/color]

What the hell does that have to do with anything, huh?
[color=blue]
> * There are THOUSANDS if not millions of viruses for Windows, and
> although it is more secure, Vista is still practically wide open without
> a 3rd party package such as Norton IS to keep it safe, and even with
> protection like Norton it is not completely immune.[/color]

Bullsh*t! That is just not true.
[color=blue]
> *It is expensive.[/color]

$90USD for Home Premium at Best Buy is expensive?
[color=blue]
> *It creashes more regularly than Linux and sometimes, a restart is
> required.[/color]

Not any of my Vista installs crash.

In Linux there are seven terminal sessions open at once, six[color=blue]
> of which you cannot see and the seventh your desktop is running on. If
> your dektop freezes completely because of an application crash, simply
> switch to another terminal session using a keystroke and end the
> application causing the error. Then switch back to the desktop.[/color]

If an app crashes in Vista there is no need to restart Vista. Just close
and restart the app.

Restart[color=blue]
> avoided, no data lost. You would have to be a Linux guru to crash all
> seven terminals at once.[/color]

Read the linux ng's. There must be a lot of linux guru's...LOL![color=blue]
>
> For me, don't know about you, these are reasons enough to be a fan of
> Ubuntu. I used Windows for years, and until I used Linux I thought it
> was great. Like I said, Linux can be a pain sometimes, getting things
> setup and working. But once everything is as you want it it won't
> suddenly stop working again or change somehow for no apparent reason.[/color]

Are you on the "every six months ubuntu beta treadmill"?
[color=blue]
> I'm glad to see the back of Windows, but I don't think the people who
> prefer it to Linux suck, I just think they're missing out.[/color]

Sorry, but I've been trying linux distros for over a decade now and
always with the hope that..."this is the distro that will actually do
what all of the linux fans say it will"....
Hasn't happened as of yet.
[color=blue]
>
> I have the best of both worlds.[/color]

You have two OS's where only one is really needed...that one would be
Windows Vista.

You should try it. lol

Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
Frank

"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> You should try it. lol
>
> Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
> Frank[/color]


Worthless creep!

ss.

Synapse Syndrome wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>> You should try it. lol
>>
>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
>
> Worthless creep!
>
> ss.
>
>[/color]

Stupid sh*thead!
Frank

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:31:47 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You should try it. lol
>>>
>>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>>Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> Worthless creep!
>>
>> ss.
>>
>>[/color]
>
>Stupid sh*thead!
>Frank[/color]

Again the idiot Frank shows off his extensive vocabulary and command
of the English language.

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:45:56 -0500, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:31:47 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> You should try it. lol
>>>>
>>>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Worthless creep!
>>>
>>> ss.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Stupid sh*thead!
>>Frank[/color]
>
>Again the idiot Frank shows off his extensive vocabulary and command
>of the English language.[/color]


Come on Frankie, how about a few capn crunch comments

[quote=James;989530]
I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
[COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/quote]

I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end of MS. Oh please oh please be true.

"R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...[color=blue]
>
> James;989530 Wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>[/color]
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.[/color]

Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for the 8
years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable for
mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping up',
there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends millions
ensuring that their product provides what their target audience wants.
Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu
incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in
the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to
what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the
same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?

Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
hey, it has some nice screensavers! :-)

Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice or
other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office software.

JW

"R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...[color=blue]
>
> James;989530 Wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>[/color]
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.[/color]

Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for the 8
years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable for
mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping up',
there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends millions
ensuring that their product provides what their target audience wants.
Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu
incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in
the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to
what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the
same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?

Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
hey, it has some nice screensavers! :-)

Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice or
other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office software.

JW

"R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...[color=blue]
>
> James;989530 Wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>[/color]
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.[/color]

Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for the 8
years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable for
mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping up',
there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends millions
ensuring that their product provides what their target audience wants.
Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu
incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in
the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to
what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the
same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?

Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
hey, it has some nice screensavers! :-)

Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice or
other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office software.

JW

John Whitworth wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...[color=green]
>>
>> James;989530 Wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.[/color]
>
> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in
> it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as
> it did back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It
> doesn't listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid
> test for most people would be being able to install their copy of MS
> Office natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>
> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
> But hey, it has some nice screensavers! :-)
>
> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works or
> Office software.
>
> JW[/color]

You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and
needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along
way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change
the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized.
Linux friendly printers install with three clicks, scanners as well.
Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.

What can be done with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.


Alias

John Whitworth wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...[color=green]
>>
>> James;989530 Wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.[/color]
>
> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in
> it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as
> it did back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It
> doesn't listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid
> test for most people would be being able to install their copy of MS
> Office natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>
> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
> But hey, it has some nice screensavers! :-)
>
> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works or
> Office software.
>
> JW[/color]

You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and
needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along
way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change
the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized.
Linux friendly printers install with three clicks, scanners as well.
Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.

What can be done with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.


Alias