If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the production
and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
manufacturer?

I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a year
after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network card,
etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
drivers.

Is this true?

No, Microsoft doesn't write drivers for non-Microsoft hardware nor is
it their responsibility. Windows is a platform, what you plug in or install
on it is that vendor's responsibility. Drivers aren't just simple pieces of
code and Vista fundamentally changes the structure or drivers. Vendors
may decide that writing code for older products isn't cost effective and
concentrate their efforts on newer products. There are an untold amounts
of programs and hardware that will never be Vista compliant. Microsoft
provided the APIs ( Application Programming Interface ) to vendors in
advance of Vista's release so they could do the work necessary to have
drivers ready. Unfortunately most didn't take advantage of that and you
have the situation you find yourself in.

Second only to "Reinstall", blaming another vendor is the most common
reason given to customers who have software issues. It's easy to get a
customer off the phone and hard for the customer to realize it's BS.

"husky86" <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B05ADBC-3F92-48A0-A871-615EA66A3B0F@microsoft.com...
> If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
> available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the
> production
> and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
> manufacturer?
>
> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a year
> after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
> driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network card,
> etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
> drivers.
>
> Is this true?

No. It is the responsibility of the hardware manufacturer to provide the
drivers.

Which specific drivers are you having difficulty obtaining?

"husky86" <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B05ADBC-3F92-48A0-A871-615EA66A3B0F@microsoft.com...
> If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
> available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the
> production
> and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
> manufacturer?
>
> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a year
> after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
> driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network card,
> etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
> drivers.
>
> Is this true?

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"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O3KNFcfkIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No, Microsoft doesn't write drivers for non-Microsoft hardware nor is
> it their responsibility. Windows is a platform, what you plug in or
> install
> on it is that vendor's responsibility. Drivers aren't just simple pieces
> of
> code and Vista fundamentally changes the structure or drivers. Vendors
> may decide that writing code for older products isn't cost effective and
> concentrate their efforts on newer products. There are an untold amounts
> of programs and hardware that will never be Vista compliant. Microsoft
> provided the APIs ( Application Programming Interface ) to vendors in
> advance of Vista's release so they could do the work necessary to have
> drivers ready. Unfortunately most didn't take advantage of that and you
> have the situation you find yourself in.
>
> Second only to "Reinstall", blaming another vendor is the most common
> reason given to customers who have software issues. It's easy to get a
> customer off the phone and hard for the customer to realize it's BS.
>
> "husky86" <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0B05ADBC-3F92-48A0-A871-615EA66A3B0F@microsoft.com...
>> If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
>> available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the
>> production
>> and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
>> manufacturer?
>>
>> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a year
>> after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
>> driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network
>> card,
>> etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
>> drivers.
>>
>> Is this true?
>
>


MS doesn't write drivers for MS hardware either. They had a tough time
getting Vista drivers for their own products.. :-)

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and Vendors use this as a golden opportunity to force users to upgrade their
hardware

but saying this Microsoft could have done more in advising users that there
was quite a bit of hardware that wouldn't work with Vista

but saying this ( sounds familiar ) in the end its up to the end user to get
of his butt and do some research before upgrading / purchasing a new O/S



"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O3KNFcfkIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No, Microsoft doesn't write drivers for non-Microsoft hardware nor is
> it their responsibility. Windows is a platform, what you plug in or
> install
> on it is that vendor's responsibility. Drivers aren't just simple pieces
> of
> code and Vista fundamentally changes the structure or drivers. Vendors
> may decide that writing code for older products isn't cost effective and
> concentrate their efforts on newer products. There are an untold amounts
> of programs and hardware that will never be Vista compliant. Microsoft
> provided the APIs ( Application Programming Interface ) to vendors in
> advance of Vista's release so they could do the work necessary to have
> drivers ready. Unfortunately most didn't take advantage of that and you
> have the situation you find yourself in.
>
> Second only to "Reinstall", blaming another vendor is the most common
> reason given to customers who have software issues. It's easy to get a
> customer off the phone and hard for the customer to realize it's BS.
>
> "husky86" <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0B05ADBC-3F92-48A0-A871-615EA66A3B0F@microsoft.com...
>> If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
>> available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the
>> production
>> and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
>> manufacturer?
>>
>> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a year
>> after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
>> driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network
>> card,
>> etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
>> drivers.
>>
>> Is this true?
>
>

"will_s" <noonehome@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:47eedabf$0$16837$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> and Vendors use this as a golden opportunity to force users to upgrade
> their hardware
>
> but saying this Microsoft could have done more in advising users that
> there was quite a bit of hardware that wouldn't work with Vista
>
> but saying this ( sounds familiar ) in the end its up to the end user to
> get of his butt and do some research before upgrading / purchasing a new
> O/S
>
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:O3KNFcfkIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> No, Microsoft doesn't write drivers for non-Microsoft hardware nor is
>> it their responsibility. Windows is a platform, what you plug in or
>> install
>> on it is that vendor's responsibility. Drivers aren't just simple pieces
>> of
>> code and Vista fundamentally changes the structure or drivers. Vendors
>> may decide that writing code for older products isn't cost effective and
>> concentrate their efforts on newer products. There are an untold amounts
>> of programs and hardware that will never be Vista compliant. Microsoft
>> provided the APIs ( Application Programming Interface ) to vendors in
>> advance of Vista's release so they could do the work necessary to have
>> drivers ready. Unfortunately most didn't take advantage of that and you
>> have the situation you find yourself in.
>>
>> Second only to "Reinstall", blaming another vendor is the most common
>> reason given to customers who have software issues. It's easy to get a
>> customer off the phone and hard for the customer to realize it's BS.
>>
>> "husky86" <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0B05ADBC-3F92-48A0-A871-615EA66A3B0F@microsoft.com...
>>> If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
>>> available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the
>>> production
>>> and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
>>> manufacturer?
>>>
>>> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a
>>> year
>>> after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
>>> driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network
>>> card,
>>> etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
>>> drivers.
>>>
>>> Is this true?
>>
>>
>


MS is in no better position to know what will and won't work ultimately..

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How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
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husky86 wrote:
> If a particular driver for a particular piece of hardware is still not
> available for Windows Vista, who ultimately is responsible for the production
> and distribution of that driver? Is it Microsoft or is it the hardware
> manufacturer?
>


Hardware manufacturer.


> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate on a desktop system. Well over a year
> after Vista's release, I still have at least three outstanding and major
> driver issues. Each of the manufacturers, e.g. motherboard, network card,
> etc., tell me that Microsoft is responsible for producing/updating the
> drivers.
>
> Is this true?


No, it's not true.

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