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Old 03-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Lovin the XP
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Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1 I am
afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not started
out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those 2
prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new computer
and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at all
costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.

Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:20 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

Lovin the XP wrote:[color=blue]
> By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1 I am
> afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not started
> out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those 2
> prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
> these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new computer
> and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
> pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at all
> costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
> What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.
>
> Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?[/color]

It installed fine for me. Took a while -- over 45 minutes with several
restarts. But it installed, Vista booted, and as far as I could tell
nothing had changed. I accept on faith that I'm better off now.

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Old 03-21-2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

"Lovin the XP" <Lovin the [email]XP@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:E5EE52CC-6696-40C7-B315-C138B554F207@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1 I
> am
> afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not
> started
> out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those 2
> prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
> these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new
> computer
> and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
> pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at all
> costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
> What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.
>
> Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?[/color]


You do realize that people come to these groups to resolve problems and that
almost nobody pops in to say "I installed SP1 and it went just fine"?
FWIW, I've installed SP1 on three of my machines, two desktops (1 Core2 and
one Phenom) and a laptop (Turion). All three installs went off without a
hitch.

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Old 03-21-2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

"PvdG42" <pvdg@toadstool.edu> wrote in message
news:uxMuW18iIHA.5504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Lovin the XP" <Lovin the [email]XP@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:E5EE52CC-6696-40C7-B315-C138B554F207@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1 I
>> am
>> afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not
>> started
>> out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those
>> 2
>> prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
>> these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new
>> computer
>> and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
>> pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at all
>> costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
>> What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.
>>
>> Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?[/color]
>
>
> You do realize that people come to these groups to resolve problems and
> that almost nobody pops in to say "I installed SP1 and it went just fine"?
> FWIW, I've installed SP1 on three of my machines, two desktops (1 Core2
> and one Phenom) and a laptop (Turion). All three installs went off without
> a hitch.
>[/color]



Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.
Don't see anything on the "reasons it might not be offered" list that would
include me.

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Old 03-21-2008, 08:00 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??


"Jay" <noreply@here.orhere> wrote in message
news:eACjv58iIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "PvdG42" <pvdg@toadstool.edu> wrote in message
> news:uxMuW18iIHA.5504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Lovin the XP" <Lovin the [email]XP@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>> news:E5EE52CC-6696-40C7-B315-C138B554F207@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1
>>> I am
>>> afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not
>>> started
>>> out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those
>>> 2
>>> prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
>>> these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new
>>> computer
>>> and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
>>> pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at
>>> all
>>> costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
>>> What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.
>>>
>>> Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?[/color]
>>
>>
>> You do realize that people come to these groups to resolve problems and
>> that almost nobody pops in to say "I installed SP1 and it went just
>> fine"?
>> FWIW, I've installed SP1 on three of my machines, two desktops (1 Core2
>> and one Phenom) and a laptop (Turion). All three installs went off
>> without a hitch.
>>[/color]
>
>
>
> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.
> Don't see anything on the "reasons it might not be offered" list that
> would include me.[/color]

Same here on Compaq (HP) Laptop - but their site says NVidia is holding up
release.

Desktop installed smoothly yesterday.


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:00 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

"Bill" <willy@home.sometimes> wrote in message
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>
> "Jay" <noreply@here.orhere> wrote in message[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.
>> Don't see anything on the "reasons it might not be offered" list that
>> would include me.[/color]
>
> Same here on Compaq (HP) Laptop - but their site says NVidia is holding up
> release.
>
> Desktop installed smoothly yesterday.[/color]


Also on a HP laptop here


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:30 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??


"Jay" <noreply@here.orhere> wrote in message
news:uIjOMF9iIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Bill" <willy@home.sometimes> wrote in message
> news:O8uJCC9iIHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Jay" <noreply@here.orhere> wrote in message[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.
>>> Don't see anything on the "reasons it might not be offered" list that
>>> would include me.[/color]
>>
>> Same here on Compaq (HP) Laptop - but their site says NVidia is holding
>> up release.
>>
>> Desktop installed smoothly yesterday.[/color]
>
>
> Also on a HP laptop here
>
>[/color]

See:

[url]http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01394455&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=3466325[/url]

"After installing SP1 my audio stopped working"

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:10 PM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

"Bill" <willy@home.sometimes> wrote in message
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>
> "Jay" <noreply@here.orhere> wrote in message
> news:uIjOMF9iIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Bill" <willy@home.sometimes> wrote in message
>> news:O8uJCC9iIHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Jay" <noreply@here.orhere> wrote in message[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.
>>>> Don't see anything on the "reasons it might not be offered" list that
>>>> would include me.
>>>
>>> Same here on Compaq (HP) Laptop - but their site says NVidia is holding
>>> up release.
>>>
>>> Desktop installed smoothly yesterday.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Also on a HP laptop here
>>
>>[/color]
>
> See:
>
> [url]http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01394455&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=3466325[/url]
>
> "After installing SP1 my audio stopped working"[/color]



Thanks Bill.
I checked the link. Seems to involve Nvidia graphics/audio.
My graphics is Intel and audio is SoundMAX so fingers crossed!

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:50 PM
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RE: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

I say go for it. If all else fails just restore. Create a restore point, then install SP1.


Post Originated from [url]http://www.VistaForums.com[/url] Vista Support Forums
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:00 AM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

Jay wrote:[color=blue]
> "Bill" <willy@home.sometimes> wrote in message
> news:%23I4XLR9iIHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>
>
> Thanks Bill.
> I checked the link. Seems to involve Nvidia graphics/audio.
> My graphics is Intel and audio is SoundMAX so fingers crossed![/color]

Then you should look at:

---
Display drivers

* Intel Display
o For x86-based computers: Igdkmd32.sys – versions between
and including driver 7.14.10.1322 and 7.14.10.1403
o For x64-based computers: Igdkmd64.sys – versions between
and including driver 7.14.10.1322 and 7.14.10.1403

----

[url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/03/20/why-installing-vista-sp1-might-fail-via-windows-update[/url]

You wrote earlier:[color=blue]
>Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.
>Don't see anything on the "reasons it might not be offered" list that
>would include me.[/color]

Are you sure all your drivers are up to date?
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:00 AM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

In article <eACjv58iIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, [email]noreply@here.orhe[/email]re
says...[color=blue]
> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.[/color]

The Windows Update version will begin being offered in mid-April.

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Old 03-22-2008, 05:20 AM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

Personally, I am waiting for my system to auto install SP1, not trying to
force it. It seems most people reporting problems have been installing the
beta or doing it other than thru Windows update. My system runs flawlessly
now, so I'm just going to wait until the system is ready.

After SP1 is installed by windows update, all future updates will be for it,
so you will have to install it at some time or turn off update altogether
(not recommended).

Lori

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"Lovin the XP" <Lovin the [email]XP@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:E5EE52CC-6696-40C7-B315-C138B554F207@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1 I
> am
> afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not
> started
> out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those 2
> prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
> these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new
> computer
> and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
> pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at all
> costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
> What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.
>
> Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?[/color]

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Old 03-22-2008, 05:20 AM
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Re: Is there even a ? of waiting on SP1??

I waited until windows update offered it to me as an update, which came
shortly after I checked for updates and got a Defender update, right after
that it showed me SP1 as a critical update.
So I figured, my system was ready for it, but since I had already downloaded
the complete SP1 file just to have for future if I need it, I installed from
it instead, with no issue.




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"LAB Enterprises" <orders@labeshops.com> wrote in message
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> Personally, I am waiting for my system to auto install SP1, not trying to
> force it. It seems most people reporting problems have been installing the
> beta or doing it other than thru Windows update. My system runs flawlessly
> now, so I'm just going to wait until the system is ready.
>
> After SP1 is installed by windows update, all future updates will be for
> it, so you will have to install it at some time or turn off update
> altogether (not recommended).
>
> Lori
>
> --
> Shop for clothes, boots, gothic, jewelry, collectible, Egyptian and more!
> LAB Enterprises - [email]orders@labeshops.com[/email]
> Read our blog with links to all our stores at [url]www.Labeshops.com[/url]
>
> "Lovin the XP" <Lovin the [email]XP@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:E5EE52CC-6696-40C7-B315-C138B554F207@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> By the number of posts I am seeing with people having problems with SP1 I
>> am
>> afraid to (attempt to) install it. My experience with Vista has not
>> started
>> out great as I first dealt with the failure of the installation of those
>> 2
>> prerequisites through WU. You really have to do a lot of searching into
>> these issues to figure out what the problem is. I got a brand new
>> computer
>> and was very concerned that WU's were failing on me. Well, I bagged the
>> pre-reqs, but consider SP1?? Seems more like it should be avoided at all
>> costs. I mean what--should we just take a risk and hope that it works??
>> What is that about? Ok-I will get off the soapbox and ask my question.
>>
>> Will there come a time when I am forced to install SP1?[/color]
>[/color]




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"Andrew Rossmann" <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <eACjv58iIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, [email]noreply@here.orhe[/email]re
> says...[color=green]
>> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.[/color]
>
> The Windows Update version will begin being offered in mid-April.[/color]


Where are you getting this information from? My desktop was offered SP1 from
Windows Update during this past week. I think I have read that some
non-English language versions will be offered during April.

My comment earlier was related to my Compaq laptop and the reasons HP is not
releasing the update for my configuration until April.

Apparently, according to the HP forum participants, you can get the update
directly at

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b0c7136d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=en[/url]

But I'd be careful.

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>
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In article <#4uKXzEjIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, [email]willy@home.some[/email]times
says...[color=blue]
>
> "Andrew Rossmann" <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.224ebddd7c334a3d9899a2@newsgroups.comcast.net...[color=green]
> > In article <eACjv58iIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, [email]noreply@here.orhe[/email]re
> > says...[color=darkred]
> >> Yet to see mine offered in Windows Updates as yet.[/color]
> >
> > The Windows Update version will begin being offered in mid-April.[/color]
>
>
> Where are you getting this information from? My desktop was offered SP1 from
> Windows Update during this past week. I think I have read that some
> non-English language versions will be offered during April.[/color]

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/sp1.mspx[/url]

I tried running Windows Update, and it didn't offer it. I have
downloaded the full one, but I'm in no rush. That is mainly for the
future, in case I ever have to reinstall Vista.

I should point out I have NEVER needed to reinstall Windows, and that
dates back to Win3.1! My previous computer was 7 years old and still has
the original Win2K install on it (updated over time with all patches, of
course), despite going through several hard drives and other changes.

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