I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.

Is that what everyone is more or less saying?

My experience so far is bad.

Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .

Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
major issues?

I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
it.

Grrrr..



Respectfully,

Trev

I doubt you will get a consensus. I installed SP1 on two different computers
with no problem once I updated the drivers that were considered a problem. I
do find it a little faster. The changes to search (prompted by a potential
law suit) I don't like but there seem to be enough work-arounds on the WEB.
--
Paul


"Trevor" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev
>[/color]

On 21 Mar 2008, Trevor <Trevor@Newsgroups.com> wrote in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
[color=blue]
> Zone Alarm quit working[/color]

There was clear warning in advance about that. Checkpoint has Vista
SP1-compatible updates on their web site.
[color=blue]
> and my NIC card quit working. My Dell is only 5 months
> old....drivers should NOT be an issue especially since I'm using a
> brand name Intel Nic .[/color]

Have you checked with Dell and/or Intel for new drivers?
[color=blue]
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?[/color]

It's the drivers and applications vendors that have the issues, not
Vista.
[color=blue]
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to
> uninstall it.[/color]

Can't you just uninstall it from the Control Panel?

"Trevor" <Trevor@Newsgroups.com> wrote in message
news:k7r7u3psp8h5s6b0mjgh8m2m39frdgofpv@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev[/color]


Some will have similar issues that people had with XP SP2 update. It pays to
ensure that the machine is as 'clean' as possible (ref malware and spyware)

There is apparently a fix for the Zonealarm issue, known before SP1 was
piped to the public and addressed by the ZoneAlarm authors.

Go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Open up the Network adapter
section, right click on the adapter, and select the option to update the
driver..

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PaulB wrote:[color=blue]
> I
> do find it a little faster. The changes to search (prompted by a potential
> law suit) I don't like but there seem to be enough work-arounds on the WEB.
>[/color]
are u sure that's not the placebo effect? I can't find a single
function that is quicker. Can u provide me a couple of specific
functions that seem quicker?

I have installed on my machine (machine is 3 months old) and it installed
fine. Previous to that I installed it on my old machine (4 years old)
running Vista Ultimate and it installed fine on that too. Perhaps I am one
of the lucky ones, but even when beta testing SP1 my experience of problems
was virtually nil.

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"Trevor" <Trevor@Newsgroups.com> wrote in message
news:k7r7u3psp8h5s6b0mjgh8m2m39frdgofpv@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev[/color]

"Trevor" <Trevor@Newsgroups.com> wrote in message
news:k7r7u3psp8h5s6b0mjgh8m2m39frdgofpv@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev[/color]

I installed it yesterday morning, for my Vista Ultimate 64 bit, so far seems
to be working well for me.



--
Don

mike , your time zone or time is off on the pc u are posting from.

I Installed it the first day. startup and shutdown are quicker. Web sites
show up quicker and no problems yet. cross my fingers lol

"Don" <burnettedclothes********.com> wrote in message
news:498524F6-730D-4EAC-9723-480331A8E36D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Trevor" <Trevor@Newsgroups.com> wrote in message
> news:k7r7u3psp8h5s6b0mjgh8m2m39frdgofpv@4ax.com...[color=green]
>>
>> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>>
>> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>>
>> My experience so far is bad.
>>
>> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
>> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
>> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>>
>> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
>> major issues?
>>
>> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
>> it.
>>
>> Grrrr..
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Trev[/color]
>
> I installed it yesterday morning, for my Vista Ultimate 64 bit, so far
> seems to be working well for me.
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>[/color]

I installed on two seperate machines at the same time - office and home
office. Never do that again. Neither one will reboot, neither one can be
repaired with the VISTA ultimate disk, neither one will work with system
restore, which ran for 24 hours before the black screen with crazy
characters. Just did a complete reinstall of the OS and ALL programs, files
and settings 2 weeks ago. I get to do it all over again. Don't install
without a major backup. Also, the free SP1 link for Microsoft help hasn't
worked and I've tried it on 4 computers - unknown application error.

"Trevor" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev
>[/color]

Could be but all my explorer windows open faster.
--
Paul


"David" wrote:
[color=blue]
> PaulB wrote:[color=green]
> > I
> > do find it a little faster. The changes to search (prompted by a potential
> > law suit) I don't like but there seem to be enough work-arounds on the WEB.
> >[/color]
> are u sure that's not the placebo effect? I can't find a single
> function that is quicker. Can u provide me a couple of specific
> functions that seem quicker?
>[/color]

I installed SP1 on 2 different machines this week. Neither runs now. Black
screen with useless codes - different on each. One at the home office, one
at the office. No power outages. Can't repair with VISTA Ultimate disk.
Can't roll back with system restore after it ran for 24 hours straight! And
I just installed new disks, reinstalled clean OS, apps, files and settings.
I get to do it all over again. And the free SP1 link returns the error,
"application error, try again in a few minutes." I've been trying on 4
different computers for days.

"Trevor" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev
>[/color]

Hi, I installed on two windows machines yesterday and they are both unstable
now, I have had to reinstall on one pc and it looks like on two, driver
issues on both machines, all restore points deleted, microsoft have really
nackerd windows with this SP1.
Another disillusiond windows USER!
"Robert" <Robert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FB6B5D78-16F2-48DC-B179-0DDFD820E6ED@microsoft.com...
I installed SP1 on 2 different machines this week. Neither runs now. Black
screen with useless codes - different on each. One at the home office, one
at the office. No power outages. Can't repair with VISTA Ultimate disk.
Can't roll back with system restore after it ran for 24 hours straight! And
I just installed new disks, reinstalled clean OS, apps, files and settings.
I get to do it all over again. And the free SP1 link returns the error,
"application error, try again in a few minutes." I've been trying on 4
different computers for days.

"Trevor" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>
> My experience so far is bad.
>
> Zone Alarm quit working and my NIC card quit working.
> My Dell is only 5 months old....drivers should NOT be an issue
> especially since I'm using a brand name Intel Nic .
>
> Why would MS put SP1 up on their webpage if they knew it still has
> major issues?
>
> I don't get it....for now...I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall
> it.
>
> Grrrr..
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev
>[/color]

In article <k7r7u3psp8h5s6b0mjgh8m2m39frdgofpv@4ax.com>,
[email]Trevor@Newsgroups.com[/email] says...[color=blue]
>
> I guess I'm hearing that SP1 should not be installed right now.
>
> Is that what everyone is more or less saying?
>[/color]
Gopher it!
No problems here, no benefit either.
In the future you will have to be there.

"EPJ" <EPJ.36neg1@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:EPJ.36neg1@no-mx.forums.net...[color=blue]
>
> No problems here. The update went smoothly after I installed the most
> recent drivers for my fingerprint reader.
>
>
> --
> EPJ[/color]

I have only run across one issue, I think. I googled it, and not a lot of
info on it yet, but appears to be related to the Nvidia video drivers.

I am running the Nvidia 169.25 Vista 64 bit drivers, for my 8800 GTS video
card.

After SP1, I do not appear to be able to force vsync on , for 3d game (
FSX). Previously , I could.
Perhaps this is something that will be fixed in a future driver update...

Other than that, I have had no issues at all with SP1, seems to be working
very well.





--
Don