"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:PI8Ej.31866$V55.19419@fe75.usenetserver.com...[color=blue]
> Buckeye9 wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I've been running Vista for 6 months now and haven't had a single
>> problem with it. I think for the vast majority of us the system is far
>> superior to XP.[/color]
>
> Not in my book. And I doubt all those that bought Vista on Vista-capable
> machines feel as you do.
>[/color]

That's a completely different issue. I believe there's a class action in the
process of being brought against MS for advertising "Vista Capable" machines
that weren't.
I have bought a new machine with Vista pre-installed, and it is running
fine.

"anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9D5FD09D-AD80-484D-8FE3-6B3854CBD02E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Woe woe woe. Obviously I am not asking for response or signature from the
> people who are down with vista. Why are you even responding and nasty too.
> Go
> back to your own business boys and girls. It should be obvious this one is
> not for you.
> To the folks that responded with the same thoughts in mind, do you think
> it
> matters which computer manufacturer you have? If so please do tell which
> system you have, and lets compare. We can prove those creeps are wrong.
>
>[/color]

Just bought a new laptop (as the old gave up the ghost)
Toshiba Satellite L40 18Z
Intel duo core T2330 1.6 GHz processor
1 GB RAM (another 1GB in the post)
80 GB HDD
Vista Home Premium pre-installed
Office 2007 (which I already had)

As someone who was fairly knowledgeable about XP, I've found the transition
interesting, relatively easy, and the machine running very much OK.
SP1 update went flawlessly, with the slight exception of the minimised
application thumbnails - but that seems to have been fixed after a re-boot
when updating wireless card driver.
Overall? Pretty OK I should say...

You probably don't remember but you posted the above subject earlier this
morning. Did you forget?

Maybe you have too many drugs in your system.


"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e11463$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> well depends on what kind a machine you have, what hind of peripherials
> and what kind of old programs you use...
>
> having said that, for most people vista sucks.. LOL
>
>
>
> "Buckeye9" <buckeye9@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:47EB93F6-B042-4A89-81F5-4420E7FD7E4B@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> I've been running Vista for 6 months now and haven't had a single problem
>> with it. I think for the vast majority of us the system is far superior
>> to XP.
>>
>> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%236eFgCciIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Disaster? Speak for yourself.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>> Toronto, Canada
>>> XP Pro SP2 x 2/Vista Ultimate SP1
>>> Triple Boot
>>>
>>> "anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...
>>>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money
>>>> back or I
>>>> want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game
>>>> out.
>>>> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to
>>>> get
>>>> all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off.
>>>> Anybody
>>>> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e11552$3@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> Lets PLEASE lets leave behind the quarrel if Vista is good or not.
>
> Apparently there is too much controversy on this subject, others love it
> others hate it.
>
> I say we stop talking about that, whatever is done is done, and focus on
> helping the people here with problems.[/color]


So in a post a little while later, you wrote the above statements. Why not
take your own advice? You stupid or something?


"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e10ee8$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> Its crap, he is right..
>[/color]

Remember your post about how good or bad vista is? Did you forget already?
Ask Mommy what you wrote.


"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e11004$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> Nah, its you who need the classes, since you seem to not be able to grasp
> the big picture of how bad vista really is and the global consequences of
> such trash OS.
>
> The more you learn about vista, the more mistakes you see it has.
>
> Trying to pull that snobby "superiority complex" vista boy trick, just
> backfired flat in your face!!!!
>
> It shows how little you really know! LOL
>
>
> "Dave Cox" <dcox1961******.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A663D1EACA5Ddcoxgmailcom@207.46.248.16...[color=green]
>> =?Utf-8?B?YW5pdGFtYXJt?= <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my
>>> money back or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek
>>> to figure this game out. How long do you think it should take
>>> reading all the tips and quips to get all this vista crp to work
>>> smoothly. This is an outright rip off. Anybody interested, I may
>>> need alittle input on writing this petetion.
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> You would probably get better results taking some computer classes at
>> your local community college.
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Lets PLEASE lets leave behind the quarrel if Vista is good or not.

Apparently there is too much controversy on this subject, others love it
others hate it.

I say we stop talking about that, whatever is done is done, and focus on
helping the people here with problems.



Did you forget what you wrote?

PROBABLY

DUMMY

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e114b0$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
>I sent a petition to the publisher of that book to change the tile to
>
> "Vista IS for dummies "
>
>
> HAAAAHOOOOOOooo!!!!
>
>
> "dzomlija" <dzomlija.36itv8@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:dzomlija.36itv8@no-mx.forums.net...[color=green]
>>
>> anitamarm;652603 Wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back
>>> or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this
>>> game out. How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and
>>> quips to get all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright
>>> rip off. Anybody interested, I may need alittle input on writing this
>>> petetion.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Get a life - or better yet - do a search on Amazon for a "Vista for
>> Dummies" book. You're sure to find what you want.
>>
>>
>> --
>> dzomlija
>>
>> _____________________
>> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
>> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
>> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>>
>> :cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
>> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/110939-show-us-your-rig-12.html#post533290[/url])
>> went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
>> supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
>> insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
>> ' ([url]http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee312/Dzomlija/Venus/[/url])[/color]
>
>[/color]

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e11552$3@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> Lets PLEASE lets leave behind the quarrel if Vista is good or not.
>
> Apparently there is too much controversy on this subject, others love it
> others hate it.
>
> I say we stop talking about that, whatever is done is done, and focus on
> helping the people here with problems.
>[/color]

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47e114b0$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
>I sent a petition to the publisher of that book to change the tile to
>
> "Vista IS for dummies "
>
>
> HAAAAHOOOOOOooo!!!!
>
>
> "dzomlija" <dzomlija.36itv8@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:dzomlija.36itv8@no-mx.forums.net...[color=green]
>>
>> anitamarm;652603 Wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back
>>> or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this
>>> game out. How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and
>>> quips to get all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright
>>> rip off. Anybody interested, I may need alittle input on writing this
>>> petetion.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Get a life - or better yet - do a search on Amazon for a "Vista for
>> Dummies" book. You're sure to find what you want.
>>
>>
>> --
>> dzomlija
>>
>> _____________________
>> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
>> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
>> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>>
>> :cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
>> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/110939-show-us-your-rig-12.html#post533290[/url])
>> went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
>> supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
>> insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
>> ' ([url]http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee312/Dzomlija/Venus/[/url])[/color]
>
>[/color]

Gordon wrote:
[color=blue]
> That's a completely different issue. I believe there's a class action in
> the process of being brought against MS for advertising "Vista Capable"
> machines that weren't.
> I have bought a new machine with Vista pre-installed, and it is running
> fine.[/color]

Good for you. I also have a vista install that works fine on newer
hardware. However, I have XP install on computer with hardware at least
4 years old with less memory, and it outperforms Vista SP1 in file
transfers, both locally and via my network.

Vista is a pig of an OS. And it really offers no real benefits over XP
to the average consumer. Vista is just MS's latest attempt to get people
to buy software unnecessarily.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

Happy as a clam here.

"Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:#6eFgCciIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Disaster? Speak for yourself.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2/Vista Ultimate SP1
> Triple Boot
>
> "anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money back
>> or I
>> want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game
>> out.
>> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to
>> get
>> all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off. Anybody
>> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.[/color]
>[/color]

"kurttrail" whined...[color=blue]
>
> Not in my book. And I doubt all those that bought Vista on Vista-capable
> machines feel as you do.
>[/color]

I doubt any MS employees applied any of those stickers. Let's call a duck a
duck, shall we?

Manufacturers bought/made the hardware.
Manufacturers built/assembled the systems.
Manufacturers decided if their computers were Vista-Capable or not.
Manufacturers applied stickers to their products/packaging.
Manufacturers advertised their XP computers as Vista-Capable.
Manufacturers sold those computers.

If some of the Manufacturers didn't follow the specs, and didn't bother Beta
testing Vista on their computers before telling consumers they would run
Vista, then why would MS be held legally responsible for someone else's
advertised hardware? It just doesn't make sense from any stand point except
greed. MS has the money, so MS gets sued. Why? Because Manufacturers wanted
to sell more XP machines six months before Vista was released.

Sir... "global consequences"? Seriously?

All you post is a ridiculous amount of fluff, and ZERO facts, just like the
rest of the useless lazy trolls in here.

Thanks for the laughs.

"On the Bridge!" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Nah, its you who need the classes, since you seem to not be able to grasp
> the big picture of how bad vista really is and the global consequences of
> such trash OS.
>
> The more you learn about vista, the more mistakes you see it has.
>
> Trying to pull that snobby "superiority complex" vista boy trick, just
> backfired flat in your face!!!!
>
> It shows how little you really know! LOL
>
>
> "Dave Cox" <dcox1961******.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A663D1EACA5Ddcoxgmailcom@207.46.248.16...[color=green]
> > =?Utf-8?B?YW5pdGFtYXJt?= <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> > in news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my
> >> money back or I want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek
> >> to figure this game out. How long do you think it should take
> >> reading all the tips and quips to get all this vista crp to work
> >> smoothly. This is an outright rip off. Anybody interested, I may
> >> need alittle input on writing this petetion.
> >>[/color]
> >
> >
> > You would probably get better results taking some computer classes at
> > your local community college.
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

Thanks Tom. No tech support, no refunds. I am not an idiot but I agree that
98, me, 2000 and xp were very user friendly. I taught myself. But not with
this one. $900.00 /6months ago, out of pocket. Since Vista I cannot seem to
complete most things that I start so I mostly don't even use my pc anymore.
Nothing seems to function completely.

"Tom Allen" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "anitamarm" <anitamarm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5D4346D4-3395-4831-95B4-B6AB6FE0B8E6@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Vista is a disaster. We all know it. I am upset and I want my money
> > back or I
> > want a permanent fix. You do not have to be a geek to figure this game
> > out.
> > How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to
> > get
> > all this vista crp to work smoothly. This is an outright rip off.
> > Anybody
> > interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.[/color]
>
> Is this just for those who can't get it to work ?
> What about the rest of us who are using the same product without
> problems ?
> What about those who just don't like the look of it ?
> Have you asked your retailer/OEM for your money back ?
>
> I think Mr G has moved on and is now in the business of giving money
> away so you might be lucky :->
>
> Tom
>
>
>[/color]

here wrote:
[color=blue]
> I doubt any MS employees applied any of those stickers. Let's call a
> duck a duck, shall we?
>
> Manufacturers bought/made the hardware. Manufacturers built/assembled
> the systems. Manufacturers decided if their computers were Vista-Capable
> or not. Manufacturers applied stickers to their products/packaging.
> Manufacturers advertised their XP computers as Vista-Capable.
> Manufacturers sold those computers.
>
> If some of the Manufacturers didn't follow the specs, and didn't bother
> Beta testing Vista on their computers before telling consumers they
> would run Vista, then why would MS be held legally responsible for
> someone else's advertised hardware? It just doesn't make sense from any
> stand point except greed. MS has the money, so MS gets sued. Why?
> Because Manufacturers wanted to sell more XP machines six months before
> Vista was released.[/color]

[url]http://www.msblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/vistacapable.jpg[/url]

MS's trademark is used in the program. That is MS's seal of approval.

Vista-Capable was a program created by MS and its moron marketing
department. That's why MS is getting sued.

So lets call the mastermind of this anti-consumer marketing con-job a
duck.

"Exactly. So, logically..."
"If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood."
"And therefore?"
"A witch!"

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

redrunner wrote:
[color=blue]
> Sir... "global consequences"? Seriously?
>
> All you post is a ridiculous amount of fluff, and ZERO facts, just like
> the rest of the useless lazy trolls in here.
>
> Thanks for the laughs.
>[/color]

Well you certainly showed him how to not to use fluff, and how to use
facts in your reply post!

[/sarcasm]

Now why don't you try to explain your own opinion on why Vista's impact
isn't global?

Or are you just a useless & lazy pro-MS troll like Frank?

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

anitamarm wrote:[color=blue]
> Vista is a disaster.[/color]

No it isn't.

We all know it.

What do you mean "we'?

I am upset and I want my money back

Then get a refund.

or I[color=blue]
> want a permanent fix.[/color]

For what?

You do not have to be a geek to figure this game out.

Figure out what?

[color=blue]
> How long do you think it should take reading all the tips and quips to get
> all this vista crp to work smoothly.[/color]

A pair of seconds? A NY second? You tell us.

This is an outright rip off.

Really?

Anybody[color=blue]
> interested, I may need alittle input on writing this petetion.[/color]

Try having your mental aide at the institution help you.
Frank