When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the Task
Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close. I
have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the computer to
get the frozen program to close.

Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems, is
it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
again, the program would not close.

Thank you,
D

try this free microsoft "more advanced" task manager
[url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx[/url]

"gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the Task
> Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close. I
> have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the computer
> to
> get the frozen program to close.
>
> Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems, is
> it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
> again, the program would not close.
>
> Thank you,
> D[/color]

Many times just logging off instead of rebooting will do the trick.

"gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the Task
> Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close. I
> have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the computer
> to
> get the frozen program to close.
>
> Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems, is
> it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
> again, the program would not close.
>
> Thank you,
> D[/color]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:58:02 -0700, gavinswoodpile.com
<gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the Task
>Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close. I
>have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the computer to
>get the frozen program to close.
>
>Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems, is
>it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
>again, the program would not close.
>
>Thank you,
>D[/color]

Perhaps you are not waiting long enough?? You can also close it over
and over again till it takes!!

"gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the Task
> Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close. I
> have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the computer
> to
> get the frozen program to close.
>
> Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems, is
> it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
> again, the program would not close.
>[/color]

You can kill it with Process Explorer too.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_Explorer[/url]
[url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx[/url]

I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop icon,
which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task Manager
never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or anything...
nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.

"On the Bridge!" wrote:
[color=blue]
> try this free microsoft "more advanced" task manager
> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx[/url]
>
> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the Task
> > Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close. I
> > have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the computer
> > to
> > get the frozen program to close.
> >
> > Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems, is
> > it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
> > again, the program would not close.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > D[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

"gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C305E086-D60A-4ED8-B44C-CDF907244991@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop
> icon,
> which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
> desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task Manager
> never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or anything...
> nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.
>[/color]

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=how+to+make+a+shortcut+Key+Vista&spell=1>

Malware can infect the computer and knockout Task Manager so that you can't
see what is running. That's a real possibility.

there is an option to make it the default task manager

Options> replace task manager

then with ctrl-shift-esc it will pop up instead of the task manager

you can change this back of course



"gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C305E086-D60A-4ED8-B44C-CDF907244991@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop
> icon,
> which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
> desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task Manager
> never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or anything...
> nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.
>
> "On the Bridge!" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> try this free microsoft "more advanced" task manager
>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx[/url]
>>
>> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in
>> message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the
>> > Task
>> > Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close.
>> > I
>> > have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the
>> > computer
>> > to
>> > get the frozen program to close.
>> >
>> > Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems,
>> > is
>> > it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
>> > again, the program would not close.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > D[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:16:00 -0700, gavinswoodpile.com
<gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop icon,[/color]


For any program, right-click on its shortcut (create a shortcut if
there is none) and choose Properties. On the Shortcut tab, you can
create a keyboard shortcut.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

I ran AVG and Spybot S&D and they found nothing. I also have Spyware Blaster
running. Anyhting other programs you would suggest that might help?

"Mr. Arnold" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C305E086-D60A-4ED8-B44C-CDF907244991@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> > way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop
> > icon,
> > which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
> > desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task Manager
> > never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or anything...
> > nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.
> >[/color]
>
> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=how+to+make+a+shortcut+Key+Vista&spell=1>
>
> Malware can infect the computer and knockout Task Manager so that you can't
> see what is running. That's a real possibility.
>
>[/color]

in the Shortcut tab, in the box that says Shortcut Key, it currently says
"none." i cannot hightlight the word "none," nor can i delete it and type in
another shortcut. or am i in the wrong place?

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:16:00 -0700, gavinswoodpile.com
> <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> > way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop icon,[/color]
>
>
> For any program, right-click on its shortcut (create a shortcut if
> there is none) and choose Properties. On the Shortcut tab, you can
> create a keyboard shortcut.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>[/color]

i made the change in Options, but ctrl-shift-esc doesn't make Process
Explorer open.

"On the Bridge!" wrote:
[color=blue]
> there is an option to make it the default task manager
>
> Options> replace task manager
>
> then with ctrl-shift-esc it will pop up instead of the task manager
>
> you can change this back of course
>
>
>
> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C305E086-D60A-4ED8-B44C-CDF907244991@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> > way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop
> > icon,
> > which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
> > desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task Manager
> > never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or anything...
> > nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.
> >
> > "On the Bridge!" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> try this free microsoft "more advanced" task manager
> >> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx[/url]
> >>
> >> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> in
> >> message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the
> >> > Task
> >> > Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't close.
> >> > I
> >> > have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the
> >> > computer
> >> > to
> >> > get the frozen program to close.
> >> >
> >> > Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no problems,
> >> > is
> >> > it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that and,
> >> > again, the program would not close.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > D
> >>
> >>
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

Another thing I have noted of late is that when Windows is starting after my
logon, a window flashes up and goes away in a split second... like there is
something loading and I don't know what it is.

"Mr. Arnold" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C305E086-D60A-4ED8-B44C-CDF907244991@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> > way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop
> > icon,
> > which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
> > desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task Manager
> > never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or anything...
> > nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.
> >[/color]
>
> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=how+to+make+a+shortcut+Key+Vista&spell=1>
>
> Malware can infect the computer and knockout Task Manager so that you can't
> see what is running. That's a real possibility.
>
>[/color]

im on xp now and it works like that...

ill be on vista later, and i will try it..

it should work though!


"gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:640A3C1A-D0C2-4068-9140-1BCDBB2C12CB@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>i made the change in Options, but ctrl-shift-esc doesn't make Process
> Explorer open.
>
> "On the Bridge!" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> there is an option to make it the default task manager
>>
>> Options> replace task manager
>>
>> then with ctrl-shift-esc it will pop up instead of the task manager
>>
>> you can change this back of course
>>
>>
>>
>> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in
>> message news:C305E086-D60A-4ED8-B44C-CDF907244991@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is
>> >there a
>> > way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop
>> > icon,
>> > which could be a problem if a program is frozen and I cannot access the
>> > desktop. Also, for others who posted: I can wait forever and Task
>> > Manager
>> > never responds. Also there are times when I cannot restart or
>> > anything...
>> > nothing works. I have to turn the computer off.
>> >
>> > "On the Bridge!" wrote:
>> >
>> >> try this free microsoft "more advanced" task manager
>> >> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx[/url]
>> >>
>> >> "gavinswoodpile.com" <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote
>> >> in
>> >> message news:00C14E14-E36D-475F-9BA8-45EE55ED7487@microsoft.com...
>> >> > When I open the Task Manager to close a program that has frozen, the
>> >> > Task
>> >> > Manager appears not to do anything... the frozen program doesn't
>> >> > close.
>> >> > I
>> >> > have to manually close the Task Manager as well, then reboot the
>> >> > computer
>> >> > to
>> >> > get the frozen program to close.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, if I have a program open and it is running fine with no
>> >> > problems,
>> >> > is
>> >> > it possible to close it with the Task Manager? If so, I tried that
>> >> > and,
>> >> > again, the program would not close.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you,
>> >> > D
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:55:03 -0700, gavinswoodpile.com
<gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> in the Shortcut tab, in the box that says Shortcut Key, it currently says
> "none." i cannot hightlight the word "none," nor can i delete it and type in
> another shortcut. or am i in the wrong place?[/color]



No, you're in the right place. Press the Ctrl key or the Alt key. The
display will change from "None" to "Ctrl + Alt + " Type the key you
want to use.


[color=blue]
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:16:00 -0700, gavinswoodpile.com
> > <gavinswoodpilecom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > I have installed Process Explorer.Thank you for the information. Is there a
> > > way to open it with a keyboard shortcut or do I have to use the desktop icon,[/color]
> >
> >
> > For any program, right-click on its shortcut (create a shortcut if
> > there is none) and choose Properties. On the Shortcut tab, you can
> > create a keyboard shortcut.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >[/color][/color]

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup