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Old 03-10-2008, 07:50 AM
the wharf rat
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Re: Ultimate: machine restarts spontaneously..

In article <47d53cba$1@news.x-privat.org>, maya <maya778899******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>so all of a sudden after I install latest updates my memory, power
>supply, and motherboard are not working right...[/color]

No, you had a bad component or have a newly failed component that
became badly enough out of spec coincidentally with the upgrade. See if
you can peer through that fog of self-satisfied sarcasm long enough to
realize that chronological order has no implications for causation.

It's also entirely possible that you have a component that only
failed after the upgrade because the demands on the system have changed.
A common example of this is a system with bad memory that doesn't get
accessed until a lot of programs are loaded (the bad bit is high up in RAM).

It's certainly possible that the update is causing some strange
problem but that's easily tested. Have you rolled back to a restore
point taken before the update was applied to see if the problem goes away?
That would be a good idea. If it wouldn't take too much time out of
your whining, that is.

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Old 03-10-2008, 07:50 AM
maya
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Re: Ultimate: machine restarts spontaneously..

the wharf rat wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <47d53cba$1@news.x-privat.org>, maya <maya778899******.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> so all of a sudden after I install latest updates my memory, power
>> supply, and motherboard are not working right...[/color]
>
> No, you had a bad component or have a newly failed component that
> became badly enough out of spec coincidentally with the upgrade. See if
> you can peer through that fog of self-satisfied sarcasm long enough to
> realize that chronological order has no implications for causation.
>
> It's also entirely possible that you have a component that only
> failed after the upgrade because the demands on the system have changed.
> A common example of this is a system with bad memory that doesn't get
> accessed until a lot of programs are loaded (the bad bit is high up in RAM).
>
> It's certainly possible that the update is causing some strange
> problem but that's easily tested. Have you rolled back to a restore
> point taken before the update was applied to see if the problem goes away?
> That would be a good idea. If it wouldn't take too much time out of
> your whining, that is.
>[/color]

I had a "bad compontent" -- and you're making this assumption based on??
knowledge of my machine???? I assure you there's nothing
"self-satisfying" or satisfying in any other way -- regarding the many
problems I've had with Vista or all the time I have spent
trouble-shooting these problems...

and by "bad component" you mean exactly which component??? I mean since
you seem to have enough knowledge about my machine to assert I have a
"bad component"???

not sure what you mean by "bad memory" either (I have 4 GB of RAM.. is
this good enough???)




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Old 03-10-2008, 01:10 PM
NoStop
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Re: Ultimate: machine restarts spontaneously every 30 min..........

maya wrote:
[color=blue]
> Frank wrote:[color=green]
>> maya wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> maya wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> maya wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maya wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi, b/c of problems I've been having with Vista I recently
>>>>>>>> reconfigured it so I choose when and what updates to install..
>>>>>>>> so about two days I installed some updates, and whadddayaknow --
>>>>>>>> since I installed them again am having problems (Windows Media
>>>>>>>> Center crashes, the machine restarts spontaneously.. what else
>>>>>>>> is new....;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the last time my machine was restarting spontaneously I asked
>>>>>>>> here about it and was told:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open Control Panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Startup and
>>>>>>>> Recovery. Click the Settings Button. In the System Failure
>>>>>>>> section, remove the check mark from the "Automatically Restart"
>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>> Apply/OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> however, the "Automatically Restart" option is already turned
>>>>>>>> off, and my machine is still restarting spontaneously... so what
>>>>>>>> can I do about this now??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thank you..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didn't you say you were switching to MAC's?
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well but of coooourse Frank.... since I have unlimited funds at my
>>>>>> disposal I already went and purchased a brand new mac... thank
>>>>>> you for your very helpful response....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> my machine is restarting spontaneously every half hour or so now,
>>>>> this is extremely disruptive and annoying... I would appreciate
>>>>> some help...
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Generally that indicates a hardware problem...even overheating. Are
>>>> you oc'ing by any chance?
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, Frank, all of a sudden after installing latest updates my
>>> machine is overheating... I didn't know updates could do THAT MUCH
>>> to my machine... (do u mean overclocking? nope..)
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Updates don't cause overheating. That is a hardware problem.
>> Frank[/color]
>
> and who said this problem was caused by overheating?? just you,
> Frank....;) once again: this problem has NOTHING to do w/my hardware,
> this problem started RIGHT AFTER I INSTALLED LATEST WINDOWS UPDATES FROM
> MICROSOFT... as hard as you may find it to believe this, Frank.....[/color]

Francis has a hard time facing reality. He's THE Usenet Village Idiot. Best
you just ignore his technical advice. He knows bugger all about computers
generally and Vista in particular.

Cheers.

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Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:20 AM
maya
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Re: Ultimate: machine restarts spontaneously -- SOLVED...

NoStop wrote:[color=blue]
> maya wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Frank wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> maya wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> maya wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> maya wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maya wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi, b/c of problems I've been having with Vista I recently
>>>>>>>>> reconfigured it so I choose when and what updates to install..
>>>>>>>>> so about two days I installed some updates, and whadddayaknow --
>>>>>>>>> since I installed them again am having problems (Windows Media
>>>>>>>>> Center crashes, the machine restarts spontaneously.. what else
>>>>>>>>> is new....;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the last time my machine was restarting spontaneously I asked
>>>>>>>>> here about it and was told:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Open Control Panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Startup and
>>>>>>>>> Recovery. Click the Settings Button. In the System Failure
>>>>>>>>> section, remove the check mark from the "Automatically Restart"
>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>> Apply/OK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> however, the "Automatically Restart" option is already turned
>>>>>>>>> off, and my machine is still restarting spontaneously... so what
>>>>>>>>> can I do about this now??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thank you..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't you say you were switching to MAC's?
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well but of coooourse Frank.... since I have unlimited funds at my
>>>>>>> disposal I already went and purchased a brand new mac... thank
>>>>>>> you for your very helpful response....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> my machine is restarting spontaneously every half hour or so now,
>>>>>> this is extremely disruptive and annoying... I would appreciate
>>>>>> some help...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Generally that indicates a hardware problem...even overheating. Are
>>>>> you oc'ing by any chance?
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> yeah, Frank, all of a sudden after installing latest updates my
>>>> machine is overheating... I didn't know updates could do THAT MUCH
>>>> to my machine... (do u mean overclocking? nope..)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Updates don't cause overheating. That is a hardware problem.
>>> Frank[/color]
>> and who said this problem was caused by overheating?? just you,
>> Frank....;) once again: this problem has NOTHING to do w/my hardware,
>> this problem started RIGHT AFTER I INSTALLED LATEST WINDOWS UPDATES FROM
>> MICROSOFT... as hard as you may find it to believe this, Frank.....[/color]
>
> Francis has a hard time facing reality. He's THE Usenet Village Idiot. Best
> you just ignore his technical advice. He knows bugger all about computers
> generally and Vista in particular.
>
> Cheers.
>[/color]

thanks for all responses... this has been solved, just restored system
to about 2 days before I installed latest updates and voila -- problem
solved.. so my question is: that update is an important one, acc. tod
what it says next to it..
(screenshot of all updates I installed that day here:
[url]http://www.mayacove.com/misc/ss_vista.gif[/url]) I installed all of them
except "extras" (but last night, after reverting system back to before
I installed these updates and went to install them again only one update
appeared, not all the ones shown here.. ( I believe it's the Windows
Defender one..) so: what happens with a supposedly "important" update
that messes up your system? I can't install an update that makes my
machine restart every hour!! (it's every hour, actually, not every 30
mins, it just felt like that....;) but it's exactly every hour..)

thanks...



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