"lostinwindows" <lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> Read the post guy's!
> How could anything other than the operating system cause the control
> panel not to open???
> Fresh load of Vista Ultimate and I still have problems, maybe it's the
> reinstallation disk.
>
> Why is it that most friends, family and co-workers all agree that Vista
> is way too buggy to be used on a daily basis?
> It's not just me. The way i'm hearing you here is that it's the
> manufacture's problem, not Vista.
> Been purchasing Dell computers for my office since 1998, and I have yet
> to see a software bug in their software that would create so many
> problems.
>
> Microsoft should have come out with XP Second edition.
>
>
> --
> lostinwindows[/color]


It could be faulty hardware which is causing problems, it could be anything
at all, but Vista runs well for many people so there is no universal 'can't
open Control Panel' bug..

If the machine was not good from the minute it was taken out of the box and
powered up, I would have called Dell to tell them they are going to receive
a piece of junk for which I would like in its place a working computer..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
[url]http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm[/url]
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc[/url]
Mike's Window - My Blog..
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx[/url]

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "lostinwindows" <lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net...[color=green]
>>
>> Read the post guy's!
>> How could anything other than the operating system cause the control
>> panel not to open???
>> Fresh load of Vista Ultimate and I still have problems, maybe it's the
>> reinstallation disk.
>>
>> Why is it that most friends, family and co-workers all agree that Vista
>> is way too buggy to be used on a daily basis?
>> It's not just me. The way i'm hearing you here is that it's the
>> manufacture's problem, not Vista.
>> Been purchasing Dell computers for my office since 1998, and I have yet
>> to see a software bug in their software that would create so many
>> problems.
>>
>> Microsoft should have come out with XP Second edition.
>>
>>
>> --
>> lostinwindows[/color]
>
>
> It could be faulty hardware which is causing problems, it could be
> anything at all, but Vista runs well for many people so there is no
> universal 'can't open Control Panel' bug..
>
> If the machine was not good from the minute it was taken out of the box
> and powered up, I would have called Dell to tell them they are going to
> receive a piece of junk for which I would like in its place a working
> computer..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> [url]http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm[/url]
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc[/url]
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx[/url]
>
>
>
>[/color]

I have had to deal with many OEM computers.

My sons Compaq that came with XP home had all kinds of problems. When it
refused to run a game he had purchased I wiped the drive including any
restore partitions and got a boxed version of XP home. After installing he
had no more problems.

Same with my wifes Compaq Notebook would bluescreen when running MS money
and Outlook.
We have many Dell Notebooks and Desktops at my work and they have many more
issues than our IBM desktop systems which are under a volume licence with XP
pro.

I home build all my own systems and have had no BSOD's with Vista Home
Premium x64 all my hardware works fine. Running Vista since Feb 07.

Just looking in this NG there are a lot of posts that start with "My
Dell......." or "My HP......."

Just my opinion on this......

"Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
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>> "lostinwindows" <lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Read the post guy's!
>>> How could anything other than the operating system cause the control
>>> panel not to open???
>>> Fresh load of Vista Ultimate and I still have problems, maybe it's the
>>> reinstallation disk.
>>>
>>> Why is it that most friends, family and co-workers all agree that Vista
>>> is way too buggy to be used on a daily basis?
>>> It's not just me. The way i'm hearing you here is that it's the
>>> manufacture's problem, not Vista.
>>> Been purchasing Dell computers for my office since 1998, and I have yet
>>> to see a software bug in their software that would create so many
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> Microsoft should have come out with XP Second edition.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> lostinwindows[/color]
>>
>>
>> It could be faulty hardware which is causing problems, it could be
>> anything at all, but Vista runs well for many people so there is no
>> universal 'can't open Control Panel' bug..
>>
>> If the machine was not good from the minute it was taken out of the box
>> and powered up, I would have called Dell to tell them they are going to
>> receive a piece of junk for which I would like in its place a working
>> computer..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> [url]http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm[/url]
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc[/url]
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx[/url]
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
> I have had to deal with many OEM computers.
>
> My sons Compaq that came with XP home had all kinds of problems. When it
> refused to run a game he had purchased I wiped the drive including any
> restore partitions and got a boxed version of XP home. After installing he
> had no more problems.
>
> Same with my wifes Compaq Notebook would bluescreen when running MS money
> and Outlook.
> We have many Dell Notebooks and Desktops at my work and they have many
> more issues than our IBM desktop systems which are under a volume licence
> with XP pro.
>
> I home build all my own systems and have had no BSOD's with Vista Home
> Premium x64 all my hardware works fine. Running Vista since Feb 07.
>
> Just looking in this NG there are a lot of posts that start with "My
> Dell......." or "My HP......."
>
> Just my opinion on this......
>
>[/color]


I am in agreement with you. OEM systems are full of cheap parts, crap 3rd
party software, badly set up, rarely enough memory, just thrown together,
shipped out and with a note to Dell support staff re blaming Microsoft..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
[url]http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm[/url]
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc[/url]
Mike's Window - My Blog..
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx[/url]

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
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> "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:eak8Q4KgIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
>> news:ehOUefKgIHA.5996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "lostinwindows" <lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>>> news:lostinwindows.35xbk2@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>>
>>>> Read the post guy's!
>>>> How could anything other than the operating system cause the control
>>>> panel not to open???
>>>> Fresh load of Vista Ultimate and I still have problems, maybe it's the
>>>> reinstallation disk.
>>>>
>>>> Why is it that most friends, family and co-workers all agree that Vista
>>>> is way too buggy to be used on a daily basis?
>>>> It's not just me. The way i'm hearing you here is that it's the
>>>> manufacture's problem, not Vista.
>>>> Been purchasing Dell computers for my office since 1998, and I have yet
>>>> to see a software bug in their software that would create so many
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft should have come out with XP Second edition.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> lostinwindows
>>>
>>>
>>> It could be faulty hardware which is causing problems, it could be
>>> anything at all, but Vista runs well for many people so there is no
>>> universal 'can't open Control Panel' bug..
>>>
>>> If the machine was not good from the minute it was taken out of the box
>>> and powered up, I would have called Dell to tell them they are going to
>>> receive a piece of junk for which I would like in its place a working
>>> computer..
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>> How to construct a good post..
>>> [url]http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm[/url]
>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc[/url]
>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I have had to deal with many OEM computers.
>>
>> My sons Compaq that came with XP home had all kinds of problems. When it
>> refused to run a game he had purchased I wiped the drive including any
>> restore partitions and got a boxed version of XP home. After installing
>> he had no more problems.
>>
>> Same with my wifes Compaq Notebook would bluescreen when running MS money
>> and Outlook.
>> We have many Dell Notebooks and Desktops at my work and they have many
>> more issues than our IBM desktop systems which are under a volume licence
>> with XP pro.
>>
>> I home build all my own systems and have had no BSOD's with Vista Home
>> Premium x64 all my hardware works fine. Running Vista since Feb 07.
>>
>> Just looking in this NG there are a lot of posts that start with "My
>> Dell......." or "My HP......."
>>
>> Just my opinion on this......
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
> I am in agreement with you. OEM systems are full of cheap parts, crap 3rd
> party software, badly set up, rarely enough memory, just thrown together,
> shipped out and with a note to Dell support staff re blaming Microsoft..
>[/color]
Agreed. And with the latest publication of internal Microsoft emails,
something that Microsoft has promoted and been complacent with. It's this
Microsoft-OEM "special partner" relationship that has lowered the bar when
it comes to quality computer products and quality operating systems in a
symbiotic relationship of "profits comes first".

Cheers.

--
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[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

AlexB's abacus: [url]http://www.poppystoys.co.uk/shop/baby-toys/caterpillar.jpg[/url]
The closest to "computing" that man should go.

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

I've noticed number of the "my Dell" and "my HP" also.
If the OEM has a flaky image that they are installing, then several users
are going to have problems.


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"Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
> I have had to deal with many OEM computers.
>
> My sons Compaq that came with XP home had all kinds of problems. When it
> refused to run a game he had purchased I wiped the drive including any
> restore partitions and got a boxed version of XP home. After installing he
> had no more problems.
>
> Same with my wifes Compaq Notebook would bluescreen when running MS money
> and Outlook.
> We have many Dell Notebooks and Desktops at my work and they have many
> more issues than our IBM desktop systems which are under a volume licence
> with XP pro.
>
> I home build all my own systems and have had no BSOD's with Vista Home
> Premium x64 all my hardware works fine. Running Vista since Feb 07.
>
> Just looking in this NG there are a lot of posts that start with "My
> Dell......." or "My HP......."
>
> Just my opinion on this......
>
>[/color]