you are incorrect.

The built in one on XP was originaly created from another company and
integrated into XP

the one on vista was written from scratch

Its totally Microsoft creation thats why it stinks

LOL


"Peter M" <phmcn********.com> wrote in message
news:efRM15xfIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It's the same as the one in XP with a few tweaks... Diskeeper Lite or
> maybe ultra lite now with no display (or do you not know since XP, the
> built in defrag is Diskeeper). It actually works fine. You do know NTFS
> has been tweaked in Vista since XP, yes? Unless one is anal, the
> difference between Vista's built in and diskeeper full, perfectdisk, etc
> is pretty much negligable to the user.
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:47cf060e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=green]
>> The vista design IDIOTS decided that you don't need visual feedback.
>>
>> The irony is that they call their new os VISTA lol.. *seeing or view
>> Latin origin*.
>> I dont know how they managed to hide stuff that is important for the user
>> in vista,
>> yet have crap in your face all the time distracting you (like sidebars
>> with slideshows.. lol)
>>
>> The vista defrag works in the background and doesn't to a very good job
>> to really optimize the disk as other defragmenters... Its a degrade of
>> the one that XP had, since you could make the xp one work on a schedule
>> if you wanted.. dah.....
>>
>> You can download 2 free ones here to use along with the vista one, these
>> have visual feedback
>>
>> here are the free ones (I like the first one better)
>>
>> [url]http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag[/url]
>>
>> [url]http://www.defraggler.com/[/url]
>>
>>
>>
>> "e" <binarydotike******.com> wrote in message
>> news:fqmk19$8i7$1@registered.motzarella.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Sony laptop, T7700 with 4GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm hard drive, Vista
>>> Business, and zero problems
>>>
>>> I've never "commanded" a disk defrag on this machine, but with a little
>>> time on my hands this morning I went to Accessories > System Tools and
>>> did so. The blue ring is spinning with no other visual indication of
>>> progress, and the Word is that it might take hours.
>>>
>>> Is that about right? Should I expect a significant improvement? Should I
>>> acquire a more "satisfying" (i.e. visual) defragmenter?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> And please, PLEASE stay on topic. Don't try to convince me that Linux is
>>> better than Vista, your religion is closer to heaven, or Giuliani should
>>> be drafted.[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

On the Bridge! wrote:
[color=blue]
> you are incorrect.
>
> The built in one on XP was originaly created from another company and
> integrated into XP
>
> the one on vista was written from scratch
>
> Its totally Microsoft creation thats why it stinks[/color]
[color=blue]
>[/color]
No, sorry cc but it does not stink. You're only saying that because you
no longer have a dialogue to stare at...which was tantamount to watching
paint dry.
The Vista defragger works just fine...and in the background.
Frank

You don't need to do any defrag because Vista does it for you in the
background especially if you leave it overnight for updates download as
recommended by MS. Preferable time 3 AM.

Aside, there is a DEFRAG DOS command available. A bunch of crooks are
watching posts like yours to offer their miraculous fixes for allegedly
Vista problems which are no problems at all.

[url]http://www.computerhope.com/software/defrag.htm[/url]

Again, Defrag is done AUTOMATICALLY in Vista.


"e" <binarydotike******.com> wrote in message
news:fqmk19$8i7$1@registered.motzarella.org...[color=blue]
> Sony laptop, T7700 with 4GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm hard drive, Vista Business,
> and zero problems
>
> I've never "commanded" a disk defrag on this machine, but with a little
> time on my hands this morning I went to Accessories > System Tools and did
> so. The blue ring is spinning with no other visual indication of progress,
> and the Word is that it might take hours.
>
> Is that about right? Should I expect a significant improvement? Should I
> acquire a more "satisfying" (i.e. visual) defragmenter?
>
> Thanks
>
> And please, PLEASE stay on topic. Don't try to convince me that Linux is
> better than Vista, your religion is closer to heaven, or Giuliani should
> be drafted.[/color]

Try this one Bridge and let us know...
[url]http://vistarewired.com/2007/02/15/defragment/[/url]

--
All the best,
SG

ALEX NICHOL
(1935-2005)
[url]http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm[/url]
You will never be forgotten my friend

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47cf060e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> The vista design IDIOTS decided that you don't need visual feedback.
>
> The irony is that they call their new os VISTA lol.. *seeing or view Latin
> origin*.
> I dont know how they managed to hide stuff that is important for the user
> in vista,
> yet have crap in your face all the time distracting you (like sidebars
> with slideshows.. lol)
>
> The vista defrag works in the background and doesn't to a very good job to
> really optimize the disk as other defragmenters... Its a degrade of the
> one that XP had, since you could make the xp one work on a schedule if you
> wanted.. dah.....
>
> You can download 2 free ones here to use along with the vista one, these
> have visual feedback
>
> here are the free ones (I like the first one better)
>
> [url]http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag[/url]
>
> [url]http://www.defraggler.com/[/url]
>
>
>
> "e" <binarydotike******.com> wrote in message
> news:fqmk19$8i7$1@registered.motzarella.org...[color=green]
>> Sony laptop, T7700 with 4GB RAM, 160GB 5400rpm hard drive, Vista
>> Business, and zero problems
>>
>> I've never "commanded" a disk defrag on this machine, but with a little
>> time on my hands this morning I went to Accessories > System Tools and
>> did so. The blue ring is spinning with no other visual indication of
>> progress, and the Word is that it might take hours.
>>
>> Is that about right? Should I expect a significant improvement? Should I
>> acquire a more "satisfying" (i.e. visual) defragmenter?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> And please, PLEASE stay on topic. Don't try to convince me that Linux is
>> better than Vista, your religion is closer to heaven, or Giuliani should
>> be drafted.[/color]
>
>[/color]