Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
consequences?
As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
silly question: "Windows needs your permission".

UAC is designed to make you stop and think before taking an action
that could potentially cause problems. Leave it be.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Valentin" <labandera63********.com> wrote in message news:OV5FlaIfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
consequences?
As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
silly question: "Windows needs your permission".

"Valentin" <labandera63********.com> wrote in message
news:OV5FlaIfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
> consequences?
> As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
> give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
> silly question: "Windows needs your permission".[/color]

You can turn it off. Please go to:

Control Panel > User Accounts > Turn User Account Control on or off.

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BobF.

"Valentin" <labandera63********.com> wrote in message
news:OV5FlaIfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
> consequences?
> As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
> give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
> silly question: "Windows needs your permission".[/color]

How to disable:
[url]http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm[/url]

Potential Issues:
[url]http://www.tweak-uac.com/[/url]

There's many other sources similar to these.

User Accounts has a hotlink to do that.

Security Inside Windows Vista User Account Control -- TechNet Magazine, June
2007:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/UAC/default.aspx[/url]

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"Valentin" <labandera63********.com> wrote in message
news:OV5FlaIfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
> consequences?
> As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
> give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
> silly question: "Windows needs your permission".[/color]

"Valentin" <labandera63********.com> wrote in message
news:OV5FlaIfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
> consequences?
> As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
> give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
> silly question: "Windows needs your permission".[/color]

The machine is very vulnerable to viruses and worms without UAC !

Aaron

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:58:12 -0500, "Valentin"
<labandera63********.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Is it possible to uninstall UAC? And if it is, will there be any negative
> consequences?[/color]


You can't uninstall it, but you can turn it off.

[color=blue]
> As an "Administrator" of my Vista Home Premium computer I find it odd "to
> give permission to myself" every time the UAC window comes up with that
> silly question: "Windows needs your permission".[/color]


What you may not be realizing is that Windows can't distinguish
between you and an intruder. If you turn it off, you will give
automatic permission to yourself, but also to everyone and everything
else--including malware.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:52:27 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"[color=blue]
>What you may not be realizing is that Windows can't distinguish
>between you and an intruder. If you turn it off, you will give
>automatic permission to yourself, but also to everyone and everything
>else--including malware.[/color]

------------------------

And that's poor programming IMHO. Microsoft should be able to tell
that an install or whatever was initiated by my mouse click rather
than by software. And thus not have to badger me three times about
what I already manually told it to do.

Or not...

When you say "turning it off gives automatic permission...", I presume
this is no worse than the existing state of affairs in XP? i.e.
Microsoft didn't to anything to actually make the problem worse?

Bill

>>>Microsoft should be able to tell that an install or whatever was[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>initiated by my mouse click rather than by software.<<<[/color][/color][/color]

Hi Bill,

Not the case at all. A mouse click is done by code and what about the
Keyboard? how would they distinguish that?. A mouse click and Keyboard can
be programmed without you ever touching it, so there is no way for MS to
program anything that could tell the difference if you or an automatic code
pressed the buttons or keys.

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SG

ALEX NICHOL
(1935-2005)
[url]http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm[/url]
You will never be forgotten my friend

"Bill Martin" <martin_spamtrap@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:9vtls3l8tc008d2fosdi8bk7dra53u72h8@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:52:27 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"[color=green]
>>What you may not be realizing is that Windows can't distinguish
>>between you and an intruder. If you turn it off, you will give
>>automatic permission to yourself, but also to everyone and everything
>>else--including malware.[/color]
>
> ------------------------
>
> And that's poor programming IMHO. Microsoft should be able to tell
> that an install or whatever was initiated by my mouse click rather
> than by software. And thus not have to badger me three times about
> what I already manually told it to do.
>
> Or not...
>
> When you say "turning it off gives automatic permission...", I presume
> this is no worse than the existing state of affairs in XP? i.e.
> Microsoft didn't to anything to actually make the problem worse?
>
> Bill[/color]

"SG" <sorry@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:uJuvdaKfIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>Microsoft should be able to tell that an install or whatever was
>>>>initiated by my mouse click rather than by software.<<<[/color][/color]
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Not the case at all. A mouse click is done by code and what about the
> Keyboard? how would they distinguish that?. A mouse click and Keyboard can
> be programmed without you ever touching it, so there is no way for MS to
> program anything that could tell the difference if you or an automatic
> code pressed the buttons or keys.
>
> --
> All the best,
> SG
>
> ALEX NICHOL
> (1935-2005)
> [url]http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm[/url]
> You will never be forgotten my friend
>
> "Bill Martin" <martin_spamtrap@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:9vtls3l8tc008d2fosdi8bk7dra53u72h8@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:52:27 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"[color=darkred]
>>>What you may not be realizing is that Windows can't distinguish
>>>between you and an intruder. If you turn it off, you will give
>>>automatic permission to yourself, but also to everyone and everything
>>>else--including malware.[/color]
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
>> And that's poor programming IMHO. Microsoft should be able to tell
>> that an install or whatever was initiated by my mouse click rather
>> than by software. And thus not have to badger me three times about
>> what I already manually told it to do.
>>
>> Or not...
>>
>> When you say "turning it off gives automatic permission...", I presume
>> this is no worse than the existing state of affairs in XP? i.e.
>> Microsoft didn't to anything to actually make the problem worse?
>>
>> Bill[/color]
>[/color]

And if I may add to that, a good percentage of malware is installed BY THE
USER, the user not knowing that the "cool" new screensaver or game he/she
just downloaded is actually a Trojan Horse, or some other bit of malware.

Mic

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:47:31 -0500, "SG" <sorry@nomail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hi Bill,
>
>Not the case at all. A mouse click is done by code and what about the
>Keyboard? how would they distinguish that?. A mouse click and Keyboard can
>be programmed without you ever touching it, so there is no way for MS to
>program anything that could tell the difference if you or an automatic code
>pressed the buttons or keys.[/color]

-----------------------

What you say describes Vista as written and delivered. Note however
that Microsoft has full control of the hardware. They could, if they
wished to so code it, make all mouse clicks, etc., go directly through
their hands first -- so that they could distinguish my mouse click
from some software emulating one.

Microsoft has all the control they need to tell whether I clicked the
mouse or some software did. They chose not to provide Vista with this
capability. I understand that choice, but it doesn't mean it would
have been impossible to write it the other way.

It's just easier for them to keep asking me whether I initiated the
action or not.

Bill

Answered inline....



ALEX NICHOL
(1935-2005)
[url]http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm[/url]
You will never be forgotten my friend

"Bill Martin" <martin_spamtrap@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:qnc0t3pc0h3gq7u81ncrlo526inpkf1moe@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:47:31 -0500, "SG" <sorry@nomail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Hi Bill,
>>
>>Not the case at all. A mouse click is done by code and what about the
>>Keyboard? how would they distinguish that?. A mouse click and Keyboard can
>>be programmed without you ever touching it, so there is no way for MS to
>>program anything that could tell the difference if you or an automatic
>>code
>>pressed the buttons or keys.[/color]
>
> -----------------------
>
> What you say describes Vista as written and delivered. Note however
> that Microsoft has full control of the hardware. They could, if they
> wished to so code it, make all mouse clicks, etc., go directly through
> their hands first -- so that they could distinguish my mouse click
> from some software emulating one.[/color]


A Click event passes Event Arguments to its Event Handler, so it only
indicates that a click has occurred. There is no way for any code to
distinguish if you physically casued this action or some other code did.
It's all done by code and there's no other way around it. How do you think
computers work?

[color=blue]
> Microsoft has all the control they need to tell whether I clicked the
> mouse or some software did. They chose not to provide Vista with this
> capability. I understand that choice, but it doesn't mean it would
> have been impossible to write it the other way.[/color]


If you could please explain how this is done I sure would be interested.
Have you ever used Voice Recognition software? do you really think the
system actually hears what you say like a human? It's all done by code
period.
[color=blue]
> It's just easier for them to keep asking me whether I initiated the
> action or not.[/color]

Guess what, by them asking you is also done by code Bill.
You deserved a reply and I respect your thoughts on this, but I think we
are wasting time and it's time to move on.

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All the best,
SG