dennis@home wrote:
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>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...[color=green]
>> e wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.[/color]
>>
>> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to use
>> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
>> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
>> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in
>> the Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.[/color]
>
> Such as?[/color]

Such as, you should know as you state you're so familiar with Linux. Here's
just one ... think X windows and running apps remotely. Here's another ...
think a transcode cluster. No more hints. I hate helping out trolls.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

Frank wrote:

[color=blue]
> Bullsh*t. One OS, Vista, will run everything...absolutely everything.
>[/color]
Get a brain Francis. I think half of it rolled over
there ------------------------ > in the great war battlefield you said you
were involved in.

Cheers.


--
What does Bill Gates use?
[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

dennis@home wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u7dt95JfIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> dennis@home wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> e wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>>>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>>>> does?
>>>
>>> I'll start the list if you want..
>>> [url]http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html[/url]
>>>
>>> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
>>> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux
>>> that don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>>>
>>>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say
>>>> a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>>>
>>> Well you have your chance now.[/color][/color]
>
> Lets try again with you answering the question..
> which Ubuntu programs won't run on windows?
>[/color]
Let's make if far easier you pathetic moron. Look at the 25000+ software
packages available through the Ubuntu repos and you tell us which ones will
run on Windoze. That will be a very very short list compared to the other
way around. What an pathetic idiot.

Cheers.


--
What does Bill Gates use?
[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

Frank wrote:
[color=blue]
> NoStop wrote:
>[color=green]
>> e wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>>applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>>your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Actually the complete opposite is true.[/color]
>
> No it is not true.
> Only for you.
> You are an avowed linux fanatic and an MS hater.
> You are blinded by your hate.
> End of deal!
> Frank[/color]

You won't know as you know NOTHING about Linux. So just go away you brain
dead Wintard.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

Franky poo, when Vista fails you blame the 3rd party company that creates
the software and not vista dont you?

When a driver gives a blue screen you blame the driver creator and not vista
dont you

So with LINUX blame the 3rd parties for not creating software and drivers
and not the platform.

As for the monopolistic trends of MS, this is a fact... I dont see how you
can actually live(*) in this century and not undersand this simple thing. Im
not exactly saying its BAD, this is a large discussion.. .but facts are
facts.

(*) Are Cyborgs really alive? Hmmmmm



"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:%23nNKLqJfIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I am NOT confused. You don't seem to understand do you? Ill try to
>> explain once again...[/color]
>
> So you're going to explain his answer to him?
> Wonderful!
> .[color=green]
>>
>> IF AND WHEN LINUX starts getting used by more people then companies will
>> port their programs,
>> but if there are no ported programs then most people will avoid Linux and
>> stick to Windows.
>> This is a vicious circle, and this circle was created by MS that actually
>> has a monopoly dah...[/color]
>
> Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too incompetent
> to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
>[color=green]
>> and knows how to control what platforms get installed on new computers to
>> ENSURE that most people have windows, and ensure that there will not be
>> many linux boxes, in order to ensure that more people wont be asking for
>> programs to be ported on linux! DAH![/color]
>
> Again, it's all MS's fault that linux, an old POS toy os isn't doing very
> well?[color=green]
>>
>> The UBUNTU platform is up and ready to handle whatever ported app you
>> throw at it and it can do ANYTHING windows can.[/color]
>
> Except run almost none of the today's most popular software.
>
> And it can do it better than Vista[color=green]
>> if you ask me, that is the most horrid version of windows I have seen.[/color]
>
> Well, considering the source that's not hard to understand.[color=green]
>>
>> Forget those so called lousy " professionals" you talked to that come
>> accross as ignorant fellows, and all your "testing" was in vain. You were
>> looking for something that does not exist, but its not because of the
>> platform but because of the "computer ecology" that is on planet earth
>> now.[/color]
>
> OMG...are you confused or what?[color=green]
>>
>> all you had to do is ask me and I would explain the situation to you as
>> things are.[/color]
>
> hehehe...yeah..capin' crunch will fly right over in his cardboard space
> ship and fix everything...hahaha!
> Frank[/color]

Yes because if he talked to me I would explain it like a real professional..
lol


"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:%23L$QBdJfIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>[color=green]
>> What kind of idiot professionals did this guy talk to?
>>[/color]
>
>
> ...certainly not you...LOL!
> You're a real fukkin idiot!
> Frank[/color]

dennis@home wrote:
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>
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:47cae687$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=green]
>> you are confusing platforms (OS's) with applications![/color]
>
> 8<
>[color=green]
>> THATS DARN RIGHT STUPID! You must see the software that is open source
>> and on ubuntu as
>> a plus feature, not a replacment for the software that other companies
>> should be porting...[/color]
>
> Should be porting?
> Why should they be porting their apps to linux?
> As it stands they aren't porting to Linux, however you can run the open
> source apps on vista so guess who is better off as far as choice of
> applications goes?[/color]

Very few Open Source apps have been ported to Windoze as Windoze wouldn't be
able to handle the vast majority of them.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

e wrote:
[color=blue]
> Which of us is confused? My comparison was not
> application vs. application. I wanted to get MY various
> jobs done, so the comparison was on a task by task
> basis.[/color]

Playing Minesweeper isn't a task. It's a diversion from real computing. Now
go and defrag your See Drive or download the latest malware definitions. Do
something useful for christsakes.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
[url]http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl[/url]

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
[url]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm[/url]

No because I dont take meds, I dont need them...

but I can tell your doctor that you aint tak'n them!

Ok you want to feel more robot than biological..
thats called "the cyborg complex"..
Its a inferiority complex machines feel thinking they are better than
humans.

but you DO STILL HAVE biological parts that need that medication.

You cant escape your cyborg nature.. embrace it and take your meds,
it will give us some peace in here.



"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:eh$e6hJfIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>
> ...question...did you take your meds today?
> Frank[/color]

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fqf3si42g8e@news5.newsguy.com...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...[color=darkred]
>>> e wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>>
>>> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to
>>> use
>>> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
>>> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
>>> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in
>>> the Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.[/color]
>>
>> Such as?[/color]
>
> Such as, you should know as you state you're so familiar with Linux.
> Here's
> just one ... think X windows[/color]

OK I am.. you can run an X server on vista! Opps you got that one wrong.
[color=blue]
> and running apps remotely.[/color]

Well you can use X, vnc, remote desktop and a few more, at least one more
than Linux AFAICS.
[color=blue]
> Here's another ...
> think a transcode cluster.[/color]


Transcode what? Name the software.
If you mean transcoding.org then it GPL software and can be compiled for
widows if desired.
Although why you would want to when you can transcode a DVD at better than
real-time on a laptop like mine anyway.
[color=blue]
> No more hints. I hate helping out trolls.[/color]

You are the troll, I don't mind helping you as you need it.

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fqf45d62g8e@news5.newsguy.com...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u7dt95JfIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> e wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>>>>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>>>>> does?
>>>>
>>>> I'll start the list if you want..
>>>> [url]http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
>>>> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux
>>>> that don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>>>>
>>>>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would
>>>>> say
>>>>> a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>>>>
>>>> Well you have your chance now.[/color]
>>
>> Lets try again with you answering the question..
>> which Ubuntu programs won't run on windows?
>>[/color]
> Let's make if far easier you pathetic moron. Look at the 25000+ software
> packages available through the Ubuntu repos and you tell us which ones
> will
> run on Windoze. That will be a very very short list compared to the other
> way around.[/color]

They are all GPL so download the source and run them on windows if it is
worth it.
The ones that are worth it have windows installers already.

[color=blue]
> What an pathetic idiot.[/color]

You are showing yourself to be more pathetic and stupid every time you post.

Not only do you lie in a vain attempt to make me out to be a troll in the
linux groups but you come and fail at being a troll here.
You should leave before we hurt ourselves laughing at you.

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fqf4ep92g8e@news5.newsguy.com...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
>> news:47cae687$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=darkred]
>>> you are confusing platforms (OS's) with applications![/color]
>>
>> 8<
>>[color=darkred]
>>> THATS DARN RIGHT STUPID! You must see the software that is open source
>>> and on ubuntu as
>>> a plus feature, not a replacment for the software that other companies
>>> should be porting...[/color]
>>
>> Should be porting?
>> Why should they be porting their apps to linux?
>> As it stands they aren't porting to Linux, however you can run the open
>> source apps on vista so guess who is better off as far as choice of
>> applications goes?[/color]
>
> Very few Open Source apps have been ported to Windoze as Windoze wouldn't
> be
> able to handle the vast majority of them.[/color]

Don't be silly.. all the worthwhile ones have been.. its the cr@p that
hasn't. Name one good open source program that hasn't been ported to
windows.

On the Bridge! wrote:
[color=blue]
> Franky poo, when Vista fails you blame the 3rd party company that creates
> the software and not vista dont you?[/color]

I do? If you setup Vista correctly you won't have any driver problems.
If 3rd party apps/hardware won't write drives for Vista because they
want you to purchase new product whose fault is that? MS's? I don't
think so.
[color=blue]
>
> When a driver gives a blue screen you blame the driver creator and not vista
> dont you[/color]

I don't get "blue screen" you idiot.[color=blue]
>
> So with LINUX blame the 3rd parties for not creating software and drivers
> and not the platform.[/color]

What a complete fool you are.[color=blue]
>
> As for the monopolistic trends of MS, this is a fact...[/color]

Duh! In the USA, being a monopoly is not illegal. It's the miss use of
monopoly power that is illegal. I use to work for one of the Fortune 100
companies. They had an 86% market share and were constantly battling the
gov agencies (FTC, etc) over monopoly issues. In fact, a lot of the 500
companies actually are monopolistic in their dominate market share and
all of them always worry about the gov getting in their face. These
companies view business as "war" and "killing" their competition is the
goal. If you were ever fortunate enough to have been a front line troop
for one of these companies you'd know exactly why I'm talking about.
MS os is no different.

I dont see how you[color=blue]
> can actually live(*) in this century and not undersand this simple thing.[/color]

I understand it much better than you and the rest of your "comrades"
ever will!

Im[color=blue]
> not exactly saying its BAD, this is a large discussion.. .but facts are
> facts.
>[/color]

Of course they are.
[color=blue]
> (*) Are Cyborgs really alive? Hmmmmm[/color]

I know two of them who are...LOL!
Frank

NoStop wrote:
[color=blue]
> e wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Which of us is confused? My comparison was not
>>application vs. application. I wanted to get MY various
>>jobs done, so the comparison was on a task by task
>>basis.[/color]
>
>
> Playing Minesweeper isn't a task. It's a diversion from real computing. Now
> go and defrag your See Drive or download the latest malware definitions. Do
> something useful for christsakes.
>
> Cheers.
>[/color]
You're really a pathetic POS.
Frank

NoStop wrote:
[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>
>>"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
>>news:47cae687$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>you are confusing platforms (OS's) with applications![/color]
>>
>>8<
>>[color=darkred]
>>>THATS DARN RIGHT STUPID! You must see the software that is open source
>>>and on ubuntu as
>>>a plus feature, not a replacment for the software that other companies
>>>should be porting...[/color]
>>
>>Should be porting?
>>Why should they be porting their apps to linux?
>>As it stands they aren't porting to Linux, however you can run the open
>>source apps on vista so guess who is better off as far as choice of
>>applications goes?[/color]
>
>
> Very few Open Source apps have been ported to Windoze as Windoze wouldn't be
> able to handle the vast majority of them.
>
> Cheers.
>[/color]
Translation: Windows already has apps that do the same thing only much
better.
We all knew that long ago.
Frank