MS wants to sell their software as a service!

the following is an excerpt from:
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]

Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.

It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows would
become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than a
product you occasionally purchase from a shop.

It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls software-as-a-service,
and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".

--- (end excerpt)

Yeah, well what about US!
Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know whats)

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>
> the following is an excerpt from:
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>
> Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
> subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
>
> It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows would
> become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than a
> product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
>
> It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls software-as-a-service,
> and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
>
> --- (end excerpt)
>
> Yeah, well what about US!
> Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know whats)
>
>[/color]

Capitalism at its best............If you don't agree with it, simple don't
buy it. Whinning about it wont change anything but cutting into their
profits will. Use Linux.

"Dave" <dcox1961******.com> wrote in message
news:u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > MS wants to sell their software as a service!
> >
> > the following is an excerpt from:
> > [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
> >
> > Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
> > subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
> >
> > It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows[/color][/color]
would[color=blue][color=green]
> > become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than[/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green]
> > product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
> >
> > It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls[/color][/color]
software-as-a-service,[color=blue][color=green]
> > and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
> >
> > --- (end excerpt)
> >
> > Yeah, well what about US!
> > Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know[/color][/color]
whats)[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> >[/color]
>
> Capitalism at its best............If you don't agree with it, simple[/color]
don't[color=blue]
> buy it. Whinning about it wont change anything but cutting into their
> profits will. Use Linux.
>[/color]

Not whining Dave, simply bringing it to the publics attention in the
hopes THEY will consider other OS's too. You see, I DO use Linux
(Unbuntu), not exclusively because I have essential software which will
only run in Windows, but all my PC's are multi-boot. And BTW, I didn't
buy Vista and thank this newsgroup for it!

Seems to me the public really needs to wake up to M$, and tell all
everyone I can about the Vista debacle.

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:ua7ciFWdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Dave" <dcox1961******.com> wrote in message
> news:u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>> >
>> > the following is an excerpt from:
>> > [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>> >
>> > Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
>> > subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
>> >
>> > It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows[/color][/color]
> would[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than[/color][/color]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
>> >
>> > It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls[/color][/color]
> software-as-a-service,[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
>> >
>> > --- (end excerpt)
>> >
>> > Yeah, well what about US!
>> > Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know[/color][/color]
> whats)[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Capitalism at its best............If you don't agree with it, simple[/color]
> don't[color=green]
>> buy it. Whinning about it wont change anything but cutting into their
>> profits will. Use Linux.
>>[/color]
>
> Not whining Dave, simply bringing it to the publics attention in the
> hopes THEY will consider other OS's too. You see, I DO use Linux
> (Unbuntu), not exclusively because I have essential software which will
> only run in Windows, but all my PC's are multi-boot. And BTW, I didn't
> buy Vista and thank this newsgroup for it!
>
> Seems to me the public really needs to wake up to M$, and tell all
> everyone I can about the Vista debacle.
>
>[/color]

Well it may be a debacle for you and many others for what ever reason and
that's fine. I am absolutely sure that if I ran the exact same hardware and
had the need to use your essential software I'd have issues with Vista as
well.

But guess what.......I don't and full all my intended puposes Vista works
better then any other OS I have ever used. Have I had to retire some
hardware? Of course I did but I expect that with any new OS that comes
out.

In article <u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
Dave <dcox1961******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>Capitalism at its best[/color]

Wrong again. Microsoft is a classic example of market failure.

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:ua7ciFWdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Dave" <dcox1961******.com> wrote in message
> news:u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>> >
>> > the following is an excerpt from:
>> > [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>> >
>> > Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
>> > subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
>> >
>> > It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows[/color][/color]
> would[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than[/color][/color]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
>> >
>> > It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls[/color][/color]
> software-as-a-service,[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
>> >
>> > --- (end excerpt)
>> >
>> > Yeah, well what about US!
>> > Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know[/color][/color]
> whats)[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Capitalism at its best............If you don't agree with it, simple[/color]
> don't[color=green]
>> buy it. Whinning about it wont change anything but cutting into their
>> profits will. Use Linux.
>>[/color]
>
> Not whining Dave, simply bringing it to the publics attention in the
> hopes THEY will consider other OS's too. You see, I DO use Linux
> (Unbuntu), not exclusively because I have essential software which will
> only run in Windows, but all my PC's are multi-boot. And BTW, I didn't
> buy Vista and thank this newsgroup for it![/color]

Well, if you use Linux/Ubuntu and didn't buy Vista then you are whining.
You are just trying to stir up trouble. Most people in the IT industry know
that Microsoft has been kicking around the idea of "renting" software for
the last 10 years. So far it hasn't gone anywhere and with the state that
Vista is in, if they do start charging for the OS, yes you will see a faster
migration to Unix (OK Alias, this is for you), and MAC OS.
[color=blue]
>
> Seems to me the public really needs to wake up to M$, and tell all
> everyone I can about the Vista debacle.
>[/color]
I think MS knows what people think about Vista. Do they care, that is the
question.

none wrote:[color=blue]
> MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>
> the following is an excerpt from:
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>
> Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
> subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
>
> It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows would
> become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than a
> product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
>
> It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls software-as-a-service,
> and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
>
> --- (end excerpt)
>
> Yeah, well what about US!
> Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know whats)[/color]

I honestly don'T see this approach as being bad at all. I'm fairly sure
that it will not be forced down our throats in any way. The details of
this approach are very scarce, but I think that I know what he's talking
about.

Essentially, it would offer something similar to what Linux (through
Ubuntu anyway) already offers. Basically, you install whatever edition
of Windows you have as well as whatever version of applications you have
and the system, after installation, takes it upon itself to upgrade
itself and the software on the computer to the latest versions on its
own. So if you install say Windows XP and Office 2003, it would download
the updates so that your installation becomes Windows Vista and Office
2007. For a reasonable monthly fee, even I would subscribe to something
like that since it offers the same convenient updating service that
Ubuntu offers except that it only installs quality software (and not the
crap that Linux users consider default and decent). I assume that
Microsoft would also take care of offering system protection like a
quality anti-virus and anti-spyware.

1) That story is a year old, in case you haven't noticed.

2) I don't see what the problem is as far as OSes are concerned. If it means
I pay a small yearly fee keep my OS up to the current version, as opposed to
paying $300 or more when a new OS comes out, I don't see that as a problem,
assuming I have some kind of choice in the matter.

3) As for things like office applications, Google is essentially doing that
now. But they're not charging you, they're charging advertisers. The only
cost to you is the additional time it takes to download an ad along with
your app. In other words would Google's online office apps work faster if
there were no ads? Probably so. Which means the extra time you're spending
downloading the ads is the "cost" you pay.
Webcentric apps is something that's been talked about probably for close to
a decade. I don't like the idea. I'd rather have the app stored on my
machine. But it's certainly not an idea that Microsoft created.



"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>
> the following is an excerpt from:
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>
> Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
> subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
>
> It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows would
> become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than a
> product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
>
> It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls software-as-a-service,
> and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
>
> --- (end excerpt)
>
> Yeah, well what about US!
> Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know whats)
>
>[/color]

In article <ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, None wrote:[color=blue]
> MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>
> the following is an excerpt from:
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>[/color]

And you noted the date of that piece of news? 8th Feb 2007. Over a year
old.

They've been effectively doing this through Software Assurance for a
few years now.

--
Spence

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fpms5p$4sp$1@reader2.panix.com...[color=blue]
> In article <u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> Dave <dcox1961******.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>Capitalism at its best[/color]
>
> Wrong again. Microsoft is a classic example of market failure.
>[/color]

The wharf rat,

If selling in excess of 100 million licenses for Vista is a failure I
would love to fail in this manner.

C.B.


--
It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
and less fortunate among us.

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:ua7ciFWdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Dave" <dcox1961******.com> wrote in message
> news:u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueGJ7zVdIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > MS wants to sell their software as a service!
>> >
>> > the following is an excerpt from:
>> > [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6343943.stm[/url]
>> >
>> > Long-term, Microsoft wants to convert its Windows customers to
>> > subscribers: they'd pay for continuous updates from Microsoft.
>> >
>> > It's a model the company already has for business users. Windows[/color][/color]
> would[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > become a service that keeps your computer up to scratch, rather than[/color][/color]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > product you occasionally purchase from a shop.
>> >
>> > It's part of a strategy that Mr. Ballmer calls[/color][/color]
> software-as-a-service,[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > and he says "it's a big, big deal for us".
>> >
>> > --- (end excerpt)
>> >
>> > Yeah, well what about US!
>> > Guess 90+ percent of the OS market isn't enough (greedy you know[/color][/color]
> whats)[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Capitalism at its best............If you don't agree with it, simple[/color]
> don't[color=green]
>> buy it. Whinning about it wont change anything but cutting into their
>> profits will. Use Linux.
>>[/color]
>
> Not whining Dave, simply bringing it to the publics attention in the
> hopes THEY will consider other OS's too. You see, I DO use Linux
> (Unbuntu), not exclusively because I have essential software which will
> only run in Windows, but all my PC's are multi-boot. And BTW, I didn't
> buy Vista and thank this newsgroup for it!
>
> Seems to me the public really needs to wake up to M$, and tell all
> everyone I can about the Vista debacle.
>
>[/color]

None,

Vista may be a debacle to you. However, it is not such a debacle to
millions of users who have successfully installed and continue to use Vista
with no problems.
I don't have any problems with my Vista Ultimate. I think it is far
superior and much more secure than XP. In my case, Vista runs faster than
the three systems I have running XP.

C.B.


--
It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
and less fortunate among us.

C.B. wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:fpms5p$4sp$1@reader2.panix.com...[color=green]
>> In article <u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
>> Dave <dcox1961******.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Capitalism at its best[/color]
>>
>> Wrong again. Microsoft is a classic example of market failure.
>>[/color]
>
> The wharf rat,
>
> If selling in excess of 100 million licenses for Vista is a failure
> I would love to fail in this manner.
>
> C.B.
>
>[/color]

Long term, infuriating 100 million people isn't exactly a good marketing
strategy. 'Course some of us saw the writing on the wall when
WPA/WGA/WGAT came out, others didn't. How can you expect a company to
continue to be successful when they hold their paying customers in utter
disdain?

Alias

"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:eUlybHZdIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> C.B. wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:fpms5p$4sp$1@reader2.panix.com...[color=darkred]
>>> In article <u6AVg$VdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
>>> Dave <dcox1961******.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Capitalism at its best
>>>
>>> Wrong again. Microsoft is a classic example of market failure.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The wharf rat,
>>
>> If selling in excess of 100 million licenses for Vista is a failure I
>> would love to fail in this manner.
>>
>> C.B.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Long term, infuriating 100 million people isn't exactly a good marketing
> strategy. 'Course some of us saw the writing on the wall when WPA/WGA/WGAT
> came out, others didn't. How can you expect a company to continue to be
> successful when they hold their paying customers in utter disdain?
>
> Alias[/color]

In your dreams. You must be on mind altering drugs. You think that 100
million people are pissed with Vista? Don't think so. I am the first to
agree that Vista has issues, but there is a small percentage of that number
pissed off.

And you, Alias, just egg them on.

Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Long term, infuriating 100 million people isn't exactly a good marketing
> strategy.[/color]

Never happened you lying linux loser!

'Course some of us saw the writing on the wall when[color=blue]
> WPA/WGA/WGAT came out, others didn't.[/color]

Yeah...it made the digital thieves scatter in the night like the rats
they are afraid of being caught!

How can you expect a company to[color=blue]
> continue to be successful when they hold their paying customers in utter
> disdain?[/color]

Not happening you broke lying POS linux troll.
Frank

>>>> Capitalism at its best[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Wrong again. Microsoft is a classic example of market failure.
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

Great Ghu, "market failure" is a technical term from the
science of economics. It refers to distortions introduced into a free
market by the establishement of monopolies (for instance), or the
problem of external costs and benefits, or a few other well-accepted reasons.

IOW, MS is NOT an example of capitalism. It's an example of
manipulating the market to set artificial barriers to entry that prevent
a true market equilibrium.