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Old 02-21-2008, 03:00 PM
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extending the C: partition


I read that to be able to extend the C: partition in vista (using the
partition software in VISTA) the empty space need to be to the right.

I did free some space to the right but did not manage to extend the C:
partition (my computer was shipped with only one partition of 30Gb on a
hard drive of 120 Gb...:(

Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
right of the partition that I want to extend? In that case I understand
why I cannot do it. I have two partitions in between the empty space
(wich is to the far right) and my C:

So: My C: is basically full and I cannot install new software etc ...
need to extend the C: How do I do it?? Free sowtware available?

mattias


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Re: extending the C: partition

>Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
>right of the partition that I want to extend?


YES, cant you just empty those paritions and delete them? what are those
paritions?

Another solution is to backup your important data and then use a third party
partion program
like acronis (not free) or partedmagic (free linux based live cd)
see link

http://partedmagic.com/

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>
> I read that to be able to extend the C: partition in vista (using the
> partition software in VISTA) the empty space need to be to the right.
>
> I did free some space to the right but did not manage to extend the C:
> partition (my computer was shipped with only one partition of 30Gb on a
> hard drive of 120 Gb...:(
>
> Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
> right of the partition that I want to extend? In that case I understand
> why I cannot do it. I have two partitions in between the empty space
> (wich is to the far right) and my C:
>
> So: My C: is basically full and I cannot install new software etc ...
> need to extend the C: How do I do it?? Free sowtware available?
>
> mattias
>
>
> --
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> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>



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Old 02-21-2008, 05:00 PM
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Re: extending the C: partition

All Acronis will do for you for 30 bucks or so is to use FDISK command which
you can use yourself.

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FDISK Usage Guide:

Using "FDISK" does not have to be a difficult chore. If you know what to
expect, it is a rather easy task.

Note: If you are "clean" installing Windows 2000, XP Home, or XP Pro, you do
not have to run fdisk before hand as, during the install process, options to
create partitions built in.
Introduction

Using "fdisk" does not have to be a difficult chore. If you know what to
expect, it is a rather easy task.

Note: If you are "clean" installing Windows 2000, XP Home or XP Pro, and do
not wish to multi-boot your system, you do not have to run fdisk before hand
as, during the install process, options for creating partitions are built
in.

WARNING: Using fdisk to "resize" or recreate a partition will effectively
destroy what ever information you have on your hard drive. Do not use fdisk
if you wish to save any information that it may contain.

Image 1.1: (4KB .gif) 1) Boot using a Floppy: (Image 1.1) I use a Windows
Me created boot floppy to run fdisk because: It contains the "latest" fdisk
utility The boot floppy has built in CD ROM support I always start with CD
ROM support, so I picked option 2.

Image 1.2: (8KB .gif) 2) Virus Warning: (Image 1.2) If no partitions are
detected, such as a new hard drive, the Windows Me boot disk is rather
helpful in telling you this fact. At this point, do not be alarmed at the
"virus warning" statement, as it is generic. At the "command prompt," in
this example, A:, type "fdisk" without the quotes.

Image 1.3: (8KB .gif) 3) Large Disk Support: (Image 1.3) Unless you have a
need, ensure that you enable "Large Disk Support." Why would you "not" want
this? If you have any requirements for DOS, Win3.1, Win95, or WinNT to
access the partitions, you may not be able to if the partitions are greater
than 2.1 GB. I selected "Y" for yes.

Image 1.4: (4KB .gif) 4) Main Menu: (Image 1.4) The main menu offers few,
but powerful options. If you have a new drive or one that has previous
partitions already deleted, you may jump to that section, below, but it
would be a good idea to look over this process, just in case you will need
to perform it. Here, I selected "3" to "Delete partition or Logical DOS
Drive." You may also select "4" to display current partition information.

Image 1.5: (4KB .gif) 5) Extended Space: (Image 1.5) If you have more than
one partition already defined, you will need to delete the ones located in
the "Extended" space. Select "3" to do just that.
Image 1.6: (5KB .gif) 6) Choose Partition to Delete: (Image 1.6) Here, you
may choose which, if any, partitions you need to delete. If you want to
resize your "Primary" partition, you will need to delete all existing
partitions, redefine the Primary partition, then recreate (described below)
the Extended partition section. I chose to delete the partition (drive)
marked as "E:" here. Choose what is best for your setup.

Image 1.7: (5KB .gif) 7) Are you sure? (Image 1.7) A prompt will appear to
ensure that you know what you are doing. You must type the "Volume" name of
the partition, hit enter, then choose "Y" to continue with the delete.
Delete as many as you desire. After clearing out the Extended partition, you
may delete the primary partition from the main menu and resize it as
necessary.
Image 1.8: (5KB .gif) 8) Create Primary Partition: (Image 1.8) Here, we
need to create the Primary partition by selecting "1" from the main fdisk
menu.
Image 1.9: (4KB .gif) 9) Create Primary DOS Partition: (Image 1.9) If no
partitions have been defined, select "1" to create Primary DOS Partition. If
you have already created a Primary Partition, skip the next few steps.
Image 1.10: (2KB .gif) 10) Scan Hard Drive: (Image 1.10) The hard disk will
now be scanned searching for problems. Take note: This process may take a
some time, a very long time on "large" drives.
Image 1.11: (3KB .gif) 11) All available space? (Image 1.11) If you wish to
create the Primary partition using all available space, select "Y" at the
prompt. Otherwise, choose "N" to define something smaller.
Image 1.12: (3KB .gif) 12) Scan Hard Drive: (Image 1.12) Again, the drives
integrity is scanned. No one ever accused fdisk of being a "speedy"
solution.
Image 1.13: (4KB .gif) 13) Enter Size in MB: (Image 1.13) Enter in the
amount of space, in MegaBytes, that you wish to use for your Primary
partition.
Image 1.14: (3KB .gif) 14) Updated partition information: (Image 1.14)
After choosing an amount, the partition information is displayed. Here, I
choose "1000 MB" for my Primary partition. Hit "ESC" to continue with fdisk.
Image 1.15: (4KB .gif) 15) Make active partition: (Image 1.15) A warning
will appear under the main menu explaining the importance of an "active"
partition. Really, this is no longer required, but for compatibility's sake,
I choose to make a partition active, anyway. Select "2" to set the active
partition.
Image 1.16: (4KB .gif) 16) Choose active partition: (Image 1.16) Setting
the active partition is as easy as choosing the number next to "C:." In this
example, it is "1."
Image 1.17: (24KB .gif) 17) Create Extended DOS Partition: (Image 1.17) You
now can create the "extended partition" portion of the hard drive. It is
subject to debate whether this step is required, but, once again, for
compatibility purposes, I choose to do so. Select "2" to Create the Extended
DOS Partition.
Image 1.18: (24KB .gif) 18) Choose space allocated: (Image 1.18) Choose how
much space the Extended partition is allowed to use. Under usual
circumstances, choose all. Your requirements may vary, but I have yet to
find a reason "not" to choose all of the remaining space.
Image 1.19: (24KB .gif) 19) Updated partition information: (Image 1.19) The
partition information will be displayed, including your previous "Primary"
and now your "Extended" partition information. Hit "ESC" to continue.
Image 1.20: (24KB .gif) 20) Scan Hard Drive: (Image 1.20) Once again, the
drive will be verified.
Image 1.21: (24KB .gif) 21) Enter Size in MB: (Image 1.21) Choose the
amount of each additional partition, up to the maximum size. Here, I chose
2000 MB.
Image 1.22: (24KB .gif) 22) Updated partition information: (Image 1.22) The
Partition information is displayed, as well as drive integrity confirmed. At
this point, you may continue defining partitions, or exit out and define
them using the setup program of a "newer" OS, like Linux, Win2k, or XP.
Again, Win9x/Me does not have the option of partition creation during setup.
Image 1.23: (24KB .gif) 23) Additional Partitions: (Image 1.23) Here, I
defined 3 additional partitions, not including the Primary one, taking up
all of the available space. Hit "ESC" to continue.
Image 1.24: (24KB .gif) 24) Reboot System: (Image 1.24) You are prompted
with a "restart" message. This is a vital step. Ensure that you do restart
the computer before continuing with the installation of any OS. I even power
down the computer, but that is not necessary.
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Here are answers to some common questions about Fdisk.

What is Fdisk?
Fdisk is an advanced command line tool that was part of earlier versions of
Windows. Fdisk was used to create, delete, and format partitions on hard
disks that were formatted using the FAT32 and other FAT file systems
required by earlier versions of Windows. Fdisk does not work with partitions
or hard disks that are formatted using NTFS, and it is not included with
this version of Windows. For more information about hard disks and
formatting, see Formatting disks and drives.

How do I partition a hard disk if I cannot use Fdisk?
In this version of Windows, use Disk Management to create, delete, and
format partitions and volumes using both NTFS and FAT32 file formats. You
can also create and format volumes when installing Windows using the Windows
installation disk. For more information about partitioning, see Can I
repartition my hard disk?

Where can I find more information about Fdisk?
Read the Fdisk article at the Microsoft Knowledge Base website.

Fdisk disappeared when Windows XP came out. Instead:

Right click Computer and select Manage,
select Disk management and go to full screen to see all the drives.
Right click on the new drive to see some of the options.
Create a new simple drive to format and give it a drive letter.
Right click it again to see more options.

You can shrink the drive to create more partitions.

Have fun,
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"mattias73" <mattias73.355kwh@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> I read that to be able to extend the C: partition in vista (using the
> partition software in VISTA) the empty space need to be to the right.
>
> I did free some space to the right but did not manage to extend the C:
> partition (my computer was shipped with only one partition of 30Gb on a
> hard drive of 120 Gb...:(
>
> Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
> right of the partition that I want to extend? In that case I understand
> why I cannot do it. I have two partitions in between the empty space
> (wich is to the far right) and my C:
>
> So: My C: is basically full and I cannot install new software etc ...
> need to extend the C: How do I do it?? Free sowtware available?
>
> mattias
>
>
> --
> mattias73
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>


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Old 02-21-2008, 05:00 PM
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Re: extending the C: partition

FDISK

Fdisk is one of the more commonly used MS-DOS commands, even today with
Windows 95 and Windows 98. Fdisk allows the user to delete and/or create
partitions <jargon/p/partitio.htm> on the hard disk drive <help/hdd.htm>.
MS-DOS 3.3x and below used fdisk.com
MS-DOS 4.x and above uses fdisk.exe
Additional information on how a hard disk drives and how they work,
troubleshooting and more can be found on our hard disk drive page
<help/hdd.htm>.
Syntax
Configures a hard disk for use with MS-DOS.
FDISK [/STATUS] /X
/STATUS Displays partition information.
/X Ignores extended disk-access support (will not use LBA <jargon/l/lba.htm>
support). Use this switch if you receive one of the below symptoms. Unable
to access a drive from DOS versions prior to 7. Disk access messages . Stack
overflow messages. High amounts of data corruption. Extra drive letters
Secret fdisk switches
Disclaimer: Below is a listing of secret or undocumented MS-DOS fdisk
commands and switches. Use these commands at your own risk.
Command Information
FDISK /MBR Command used to rewrite the Master Boot Record
<jargon/m/mbr.htm>. See CH000175 <issues/ch000175.htm> for additional
information.
FDISK /CMBR <DISK> Recreates the Master Boot Record <jargon/m/mbr.htm> on
specified disk. Performs the same functions as FDISK /MBR except can be used
on other disk drives.
FDISK 1/PRI:100 Creates a 100MB <jargon/m/mb.htm> DOS <msdos.htm> partition
on the hard drive <help/hdd.htm>.
FDISK 1/EXT:500 Creates a 500MB <jargon/m/mb.htm> meg extended DOS
<msdos.htm> partition on the hard drive <help/hdd.htm>.
FDISK 1/LOG:250 Creates a 250MB <jargon/m/mb.htm> logical drives on the
hard drive <help/hdd.htm>.
FDISK /Q Prevents fdisk from booting the system automatically after exiting
fdisk.
FDISK /STATUS Shows you the current status of your hard drives.
FDISK /ACTOK Makes FDISK not check the disk integrity allowing the drives
to be created faster.
FDISK /FPRMT Will not get the prompt for FAT32 support, in addition allows
FDISK to be forced into using FAT32 <jargon/f/fat.htm> on drives smaller
than 540MB (by default FDISK will not use FAT32 on any drive smaller than
540MB). Finally this command can only be used with FDISK that supports
FAT32.
Examples
Fdisk - This would get you into the fdisk option screen that you can see in
the fdisk simulation. Also keep in mind when deleting a partitions ANYTHING
that is on that partition of the hard drive will be ERASED, also once the
partition is delete it will not be redetected until you format that
partition, so if you delete your primary partition, which is the c: drive,
you will not be able to put anything on that drive or even read from that
drive until it is formatted.
See our fdisk simulation <sfdisk1.htm> for additional information and
examples.
Additional information
FDISK SCRIPT FILE - Fdisk has the capability of being run from an external
file, allowing you to quickly create and delete partitions through Fdisk. To
do this, create a file from the DOS <edithlp.htm> command. Below are the
steps required in generating this file.
Edit <edithlp.htm> fdisk.scr - This will place you within the edit screen.
Within this screen you will enter the commands you wish to be run in fdisk.
For example, if you wish to run fdisk and display the partition information,
you would enter 4.
Because fdisk requires you to press enter after you have chosen a selection,
you will need to press Ctrl + P and then press Ctrl + M, which will create a
music symbol, which acts as a carriage return.
If you need to press the esc key, you would use Ctrl + P and then press esc,
which would be represented as a backwards arrow.
When doing the commands to run FDISK, all these must be on one line; do not
place each command on separate lines.
Once you have created the script file, you can then type fdisk < fdisk.scr
that will then execute the script file. If the script file encounters an
error during its process, you will need to recreate the script file where
the mistake occurred.
additional information on FDISK /MBR?
The FDISK /MBR command is an undocumented switch used with the FDISK command
(MS-DOS 5.0 and higher) that enables users to recreate their master boot
record on their hard disk drive.
Q.) Does doing FDISK /MBR more than one time have any effect on the
computer?
A.) How this command operates varies depending on the version of FDISK you
are using. However, when performing this command, it is overwriting the
information that is contained in the MBR. Performing this command multiple
times is not going to do anything more than performing the same steps again.
Q.) How can I recreate the Master Boot Record on a different hard disk drive
other than my primary hard disk drive?
A.) Use FDISK /CMBR <drive number> where <drive number> represents the drive
you wish to recreate the master boot record. To determine the drive number,
run the fdisk /status command.
Users can also find much more detailed notes about FDISK through links found
on our hard disk drive network section <../network/hdd.htm>.
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master boot block and is the first sector
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drive used to determine what partition
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<http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/o/os.htm>. It also tells the computer
how the hard drive <http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/h/harddriv.htm> is
organized and provides information about the drive's partitions. The master
boot record is located on the first sector of the hard drive; it's the first
program <http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/p/program.htm> the computer runs
after performing a memory <http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/m/memory.htm>
check <http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/c/check.htm> and looking for a
bootable disk <http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/b/bootdisk.htm> (if set in
CMOS <http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/c/cmos.htm>). The MBR is also
susceptible to boot sector viruses
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<http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/c/corrupt.htm> or delete
<http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/delete.htm> the MBR, which can leave
the hard drive unusable and prevent the computer from booting up. A
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Monkey Virus. Additional information about the FDISK /MBR can also be found
on document CH000175 <../../issues/ch000175.htm>. Information about the
Stoned Empire Monkey Virus can be found here <../../monkey.htm>.





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>
> I read that to be able to extend the C: partition in vista (using the
> partition software in VISTA) the empty space need to be to the right.
>
> I did free some space to the right but did not manage to extend the C:
> partition (my computer was shipped with only one partition of 30Gb on a
> hard drive of 120 Gb...:(
>
> Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
> right of the partition that I want to extend? In that case I understand
> why I cannot do it. I have two partitions in between the empty space
> (wich is to the far right) and my C:
>
> So: My C: is basically full and I cannot install new software etc ...
> need to extend the C: How do I do it?? Free sowtware available?
>
> mattias
>
>
> --
> mattias73
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>


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"mattias73" <mattias73.355kwh@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message
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>
> I read that to be able to extend the C: partition in vista (using the
> partition software in VISTA) the empty space need to be to the right.
>
> I did free some space to the right but did not manage to extend the C:
> partition (my computer was shipped with only one partition of 30Gb on a
> hard drive of 120 Gb...:(
>
> Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
> right of the partition that I want to extend? In that case I understand
> why I cannot do it. I have two partitions in between the empty space
> (wich is to the far right) and my C:
>
> So: My C: is basically full and I cannot install new software etc ...
> need to extend the C: How do I do it?? Free sowtware available?
>
> mattias
>
>
> --
> mattias73
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>


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Old 02-21-2008, 05:40 PM
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Re: extending the C: partition

It has to be immediately to the right. Contiguous.

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>
> I read that to be able to extend the C: partition in vista (using the
> partition software in VISTA) the empty space need to be to the right.
>
> I did free some space to the right but did not manage to extend the C:
> partition (my computer was shipped with only one partition of 30Gb on a
> hard drive of 120 Gb...:(
>
> Now, the question: Does the empty space have to be *directly *to the
> right of the partition that I want to extend? In that case I understand
> why I cannot do it. I have two partitions in between the empty space
> (wich is to the far right) and my C:
>
> So: My C: is basically full and I cannot install new software etc ...
> need to extend the C: How do I do it?? Free sowtware available?
>
> mattias
>
>
> --
> mattias73
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>


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Old 02-22-2008, 07:30 PM
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Re: extending the C: partition

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:51:45 -0500, AlexB wrote:

> All Acronis will do for you for 30 bucks or so is to use FDISK command
> which you can use yourself.


<SNIP>

aB....READ THE BELOW PARAGRAPH *YOU* POSTED.

> WARNING: Using fdisk to "resize" or recreate a partition will
> effectively destroy what ever information you have on your hard drive.
> Do not use fdisk if you wish to save any information that it may
> contain.


So now, tell me, does FDisk do what the OP wants, which is to add more
free space to his drive WITHOUT having to wipe the disk and re-install
Windows ?

I think not.

Acronis, on the other hand, does indeed non-destructively allow you to
resize partitions.

Another route would be to just make an image of the current OS, then
repartition the HD and restore the image.


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