I just installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a newly built computer. As might
be expected, I immediately began to download and install updates via Windows
Update. I went through the process a few times and thought that I was nearly
done.

I clicked "Check for Updates" one more time. Another update appeared,
"Total:1 important update, 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB". Curious, I clicked to view
the available update... "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based Systems
(KB936330)" published 20 Feb 2008 and marked Important. The details on the
update are ambiguous and suggest that it may be a Beta version. More
information is linked to:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089.

I'm confused. My understanding was that Microsoft was not releasing the
final version of SP1 though Windows Update until mid-March. But why would a
Beta version be made available through Update and marked Important rather
than Optional? Is this the final version of SP1? I do not want to have to
uninstall any Beta version to put the final version on my machine. Any
information would be appreciated.

Providing a little more information, here are the details provided for the
update in question. (In the "Choose the updates you want to install" window,
right click on Update name, then select View Details.) Something about this
update just does not seem right to me.




Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based Systems (KB936330)

Download size: 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB

Update type: Important

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) Beta is an update to Windows Vista
that addresses key feedback from our customers. Windows Vista SP1 Beta
addresses specific reliability and performance issues, supports new types of
hardware and adds support for several emerging standards. After you install
this item, you may have to restart your computer.

More information:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com

This is just an off the cuff guess from right when I read your post .. but
perhaps it is now available for x64 systems? That doesn't mean it is
available for x86 systems yet, though.

The service pack has been available to OEMs for a while now. Technet got the
stand-alone installer a few days ago (Yey!). It's being gradually rolled
out. Yours here is probably the latest.

Saucy


"rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
news:exN%23xbIdIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Providing a little more information, here are the details provided for the
> update in question. (In the "Choose the updates you want to install"
> window, right click on Update name, then select View Details.) Something
> about this update just does not seem right to me.
>
>
>
>
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based Systems (KB936330)
>
> Download size: 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB
>
> Update type: Important
>
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) Beta is an update to Windows Vista
> that addresses key feedback from our customers. Windows Vista SP1 Beta
> addresses specific reliability and performance issues, supports new types
> of hardware and adds support for several emerging standards. After you
> install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
>
> More information:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089
>
> Help and Support:
> http://support.microsoft.com
>
>

I came here looking for the answer to the same question. As you said, the
write-ups are ambiguous: is this the beta or the RTM? And, why is it being
pushed as an Important Update when it's not due to be formally released
until next month?

Dave Lessnau



"rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
news:ud24g0HdIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I just installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a newly built computer. As might
> be expected, I immediately began to download and install updates via
> Windows Update. I went through the process a few times and thought that I
> was nearly done.
>
> I clicked "Check for Updates" one more time. Another update appeared,
> "Total:1 important update, 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB". Curious, I clicked to
> view the available update... "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based
> Systems (KB936330)" published 20 Feb 2008 and marked Important. The
> details on the update are ambiguous and suggest that it may be a Beta
> version. More information is linked to:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089.
>
> I'm confused. My understanding was that Microsoft was not releasing the
> final version of SP1 though Windows Update until mid-March. But why would
> a Beta version be made available through Update and marked Important
> rather than Optional? Is this the final version of SP1? I do not want to
> have to uninstall any Beta version to put the final version on my machine.
> Any information would be appreciated.
>

"roy69" <roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> sp1 for vista is out for 64bit version. Just started to download it:)
>
>
> --
> roy69
>
> - Core 2 Quad Q6600
> - Abit IP35 Pro
> - 4 x 1GB OcUK PC2-6400 C5 800 MHZ Dual Channel
> - Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3
> - CiBox TFT 22" Widescreen LCD Panel. 1680 x 1050
> - Creative X-Fi 7.1 PCI-E
> - Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
> - Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
> - Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU

...started downloading it from a doubtful source no doubt if you aren't an
MSDN subscriber. SP1 RTM has NOT been released to the general public and
the above poster already stated that Windows update was offering a BETA
SP1...why is anyone's guess.
At this late stage I would wait until it is legally available.
SP1 enquiries should be addressed to the SP1 forum:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...1992&SiteID=17

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

One thing of note. If you have installed a beta version of the service pack
before or manually edited your registry, SP1 may be showing up on Windows
Update.

So far, Windows Update will not show the availablility of the service pack.
But with a little registry editing, you can trigger Windows Update to
download and install the RTM SP1. If you want to know how, Google it.

SP1 is out, but Microsoft is being selective as to who gets it, from where,
and when. Be patient and don't be tempted by the hacked versions available
through torrent software etc. and instead be sure to get it through regular
channels.

Saucy


"rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
news:ud24g0HdIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I just installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a newly built computer. As might
>be expected, I immediately began to download and install updates via
>Windows Update. I went through the process a few times and thought that I
>was nearly done.
>
> I clicked "Check for Updates" one more time. Another update appeared,
> "Total:1 important update, 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB". Curious, I clicked to
> view the available update... "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based
> Systems (KB936330)" published 20 Feb 2008 and marked Important. The
> details on the update are ambiguous and suggest that it may be a Beta
> version. More information is linked to:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089.
>
> I'm confused. My understanding was that Microsoft was not releasing the
> final version of SP1 though Windows Update until mid-March. But why would
> a Beta version be made available through Update and marked Important
> rather than Optional? Is this the final version of SP1? I do not want to
> have to uninstall any Beta version to put the final version on my machine.
> Any information would be appreciated.
>

Peter-
That dubious source is Microsoft. The update is being reported directly from
Control Panel> System and Maintenance> Windows Update. Further, it is marked
as an automatic update which, I believe, is an automatic update if you have
your system configured for them. So, for someone who configures Windows
Update as recommended, to "wait until it is legally available" is not an
option.

"Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ubbySbKdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "roy69" <roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net...
>>
>> sp1 for vista is out for 64bit version. Just started to download it:)
>>
>>
>> --
>> roy69
>>
>> - Core 2 Quad Q6600
>> - Abit IP35 Pro
>> - 4 x 1GB OcUK PC2-6400 C5 800 MHZ Dual Channel
>> - Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3
>> - CiBox TFT 22" Widescreen LCD Panel. 1680 x 1050
>> - Creative X-Fi 7.1 PCI-E
>> - Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
>> - Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
>> - Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
>
> ..started downloading it from a doubtful source no doubt if you aren't an
> MSDN subscriber. SP1 RTM has NOT been released to the general public and
> the above poster already stated that Windows update was offering a BETA
> SP1...why is anyone's guess.
> At this late stage I would wait until it is legally available.
> SP1 enquiries should be addressed to the SP1 forum:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...1992&SiteID=17
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
> Triple Boot
>

I did not installed the beta, nor did I modify the registry, and I still get
the SP1 on the Windows Update

"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:OO$VT7KdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> One thing of note. If you have installed a beta version of the service
> pack before or manually edited your registry, SP1 may be showing up on
> Windows Update.
>
> So far, Windows Update will not show the availablility of the service
> pack. But with a little registry editing, you can trigger Windows Update
> to download and install the RTM SP1. If you want to know how, Google it.
>
> SP1 is out, but Microsoft is being selective as to who gets it, from
> where, and when. Be patient and don't be tempted by the hacked versions
> available through torrent software etc. and instead be sure to get it
> through regular channels.
>
> Saucy
>
>
> "rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
> news:ud24g0HdIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I just installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a newly built computer. As might
>>be expected, I immediately began to download and install updates via
>>Windows Update. I went through the process a few times and thought that I
>>was nearly done.
>>
>> I clicked "Check for Updates" one more time. Another update appeared,
>> "Total:1 important update, 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB". Curious, I clicked to
>> view the available update... "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based
>> Systems (KB936330)" published 20 Feb 2008 and marked Important. The
>> details on the update are ambiguous and suggest that it may be a Beta
>> version. More information is linked to:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089.
>>
>> I'm confused. My understanding was that Microsoft was not releasing the
>> final version of SP1 though Windows Update until mid-March. But why would
>> a Beta version be made available through Update and marked Important
>> rather than Optional? Is this the final version of SP1? I do not want to
>> have to uninstall any Beta version to put the final version on my
>> machine. Any information would be appreciated.
>>
>

--
Thank You in Advance
Merci a l'avance

Martin

Saucy -
The installation of Vista is brand new. The SP1 update appeared at the end
of the series of updates one typically does immediately after a fresh
installation. No Beta version of SP1 has been installed and the registry has
not been hacked. (In fact, the purpose of the post is to avoid putting a
Beta version of SP1 on the computer.)

"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:OO$VT7KdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> One thing of note. If you have installed a beta version of the service
> pack before or manually edited your registry, SP1 may be showing up on
> Windows Update.
>
> So far, Windows Update will not show the availablility of the service
> pack. But with a little registry editing, you can trigger Windows Update
> to download and install the RTM SP1. If you want to know how, Google it.
>
> SP1 is out, but Microsoft is being selective as to who gets it, from
> where, and when. Be patient and don't be tempted by the hacked versions
> available through torrent software etc. and instead be sure to get it
> through regular channels.
>
> Saucy

BTW, is there a way to have the search in the right side of the start menu
back after SP1, this is the most usefull of all Vista's feature

"rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
news:e86G5%23KdIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Peter-
> That dubious source is Microsoft. The update is being reported directly
> from Control Panel> System and Maintenance> Windows Update. Further, it is
> marked as an automatic update which, I believe, is an automatic update if
> you have your system configured for them. So, for someone who configures
> Windows Update as recommended, to "wait until it is legally available" is
> not an option.
>
> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ubbySbKdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "roy69" <roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>
>>> sp1 for vista is out for 64bit version. Just started to download it:)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> roy69
>>>
>>> - Core 2 Quad Q6600
>>> - Abit IP35 Pro
>>> - 4 x 1GB OcUK PC2-6400 C5 800 MHZ Dual Channel
>>> - Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3
>>> - CiBox TFT 22" Widescreen LCD Panel. 1680 x 1050
>>> - Creative X-Fi 7.1 PCI-E
>>> - Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
>>> - Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
>>> - Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
>>
>> ..started downloading it from a doubtful source no doubt if you aren't an
>> MSDN subscriber. SP1 RTM has NOT been released to the general public
>> and the above poster already stated that Windows update was offering a
>> BETA SP1...why is anyone's guess.
>> At this late stage I would wait until it is legally available.
>> SP1 enquiries should be addressed to the SP1 forum:
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...1992&SiteID=17
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> Toronto, Canada
>> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
>> Triple Boot
>>
>
>

--
Thank You in Advance
Merci a l'avance

Martin

No registry tweaks or beta service packs here. Yet, Microsoft Update on
this Vista (x64) system is pushing this SP1 update.

After looking at the links provided with the Update, I'm even more confused.
The title of the update makes no mention of Beta or RTM. Under Details, the
text description says Beta. The provided link to the TechNet page
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../bb738089.aspx) implies it
ought to be RTM. The Help and Support link (http://support.microsoft.com/)
is just a generic help page. But, searching there for the "KB936330"
reference included with the update results in a page
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330/en-us) which says it's RTM. So,
that gives me one place with no indication, one place indicating it's the
Beta, and two places indicating it's the RTM.

Also, this is not from some questionable source. It's on Microsoft Update.
And, since it's marked as an Important Update, it downloaded itself and is
sitting on the machine just waiting for me to push the Install button.

Dave Lessnau



"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:OO$VT7KdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> One thing of note. If you have installed a beta version of the service
> pack before or manually edited your registry, SP1 may be showing up on
> Windows Update.
>
> So far, Windows Update will not show the availablility of the service
> pack. But with a little registry editing, you can trigger Windows Update
> to download and install the RTM SP1. If you want to know how, Google it.
>
> SP1 is out, but Microsoft is being selective as to who gets it, from
> where, and when. Be patient and don't be tempted by the hacked versions
> available through torrent software etc. and instead be sure to get it
> through regular channels.
>
> Saucy
>
>
> "rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
> news:ud24g0HdIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I just installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a newly built computer. As might
>>be expected, I immediately began to download and install updates via
>>Windows Update. I went through the process a few times and thought that I
>>was nearly done.
>>
>> I clicked "Check for Updates" one more time. Another update appeared,
>> "Total:1 important update, 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB". Curious, I clicked to
>> view the available update... "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based
>> Systems (KB936330)" published 20 Feb 2008 and marked Important. The
>> details on the update are ambiguous and suggest that it may be a Beta
>> version. More information is linked to:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089.
>>
>> I'm confused. My understanding was that Microsoft was not releasing the
>> final version of SP1 though Windows Update until mid-March. But why would
>> a Beta version be made available through Update and marked Important
>> rather than Optional? Is this the final version of SP1? I do not want to
>> have to uninstall any Beta version to put the final version on my
>> machine. Any information would be appreciated.
>>
>

You and I are reading this situation the same way. Microsoft is pushing this
update as if it is the final version of SP1, yet its words are ambiguous. As
stated in my post, my installation of Vista was fresh. Still, I was prompted
to install 50-60 updates (both Important and Optional) prior to having the
SP1 update become available.

Assuming that the SP1 update is final, are these smaller updates
prerequisite to installing SP1? One of the stated purposes of SP1 was to
roll-up most of the previous updates into a single package. Perhaps,
Microsoft made the SP1 update available during that period of time that I
was updating. I'm considering doing another fresh reinstall of Vista to see
if the SP1 update appears earlier in the update sequence.


"David A. Lessnau" <PostToNewsgroupPlease@NotReal.com> wrote in message
news:eRV6YELdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No registry tweaks or beta service packs here. Yet, Microsoft Update on
> this Vista (x64) system is pushing this SP1 update.
>
> After looking at the links provided with the Update, I'm even more
> confused. The title of the update makes no mention of Beta or RTM. Under
> Details, the text description says Beta. The provided link to the TechNet
> page (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../bb738089.aspx)
> implies it ought to be RTM. The Help and Support link
> (http://support.microsoft.com/) is just a generic help page. But,
> searching there for the "KB936330" reference included with the update
> results in a page (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330/en-us) which
> says it's RTM. So, that gives me one place with no indication, one place
> indicating it's the Beta, and two places indicating it's the RTM.
>
> Also, this is not from some questionable source. It's on Microsoft
> Update. And, since it's marked as an Important Update, it downloaded
> itself and is sitting on the machine just waiting for me to push the
> Install button.
>
> Dave Lessnau
>
>
>
> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:OO$VT7KdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> One thing of note. If you have installed a beta version of the service
>> pack before or manually edited your registry, SP1 may be showing up on
>> Windows Update.
>>
>> So far, Windows Update will not show the availablility of the service
>> pack. But with a little registry editing, you can trigger Windows Update
>> to download and install the RTM SP1. If you want to know how, Google it.
>>
>> SP1 is out, but Microsoft is being selective as to who gets it, from
>> where, and when. Be patient and don't be tempted by the hacked versions
>> available through torrent software etc. and instead be sure to get it
>> through regular channels.
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> "rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
>> news:ud24g0HdIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I just installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a newly built computer. As
>>>might be expected, I immediately began to download and install updates
>>>via Windows Update. I went through the process a few times and thought
>>>that I was nearly done.
>>>
>>> I clicked "Check for Updates" one more time. Another update appeared,
>>> "Total:1 important update, 120.0 MB - 711.6 MB". Curious, I clicked to
>>> view the available update... "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based
>>> Systems (KB936330)" published 20 Feb 2008 and marked Important. The
>>> details on the update are ambiguous and suggest that it may be a Beta
>>> version. More information is linked to:
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vista/bb738089.
>>>
>>> I'm confused. My understanding was that Microsoft was not releasing the
>>> final version of SP1 though Windows Update until mid-March. But why
>>> would a Beta version be made available through Update and marked
>>> Important rather than Optional? Is this the final version of SP1? I do
>>> not want to have to uninstall any Beta version to put the final version
>>> on my machine. Any information would be appreciated.
>>>
>>

"rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
news:e86G5%23KdIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Peter-
> That dubious source is Microsoft. The update is being reported directly
> from Control Panel> System and Maintenance> Windows Update. Further, it is
> marked as an automatic update which, I believe, is an automatic update if
> you have your system configured for them. So, for someone who configures
> Windows Update as recommended, to "wait until it is legally available" is
> not an option.
>
> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ubbySbKdIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "roy69" <roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:roy69.3551hz@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>
>>> sp1 for vista is out for 64bit version. Just started to download it:)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> roy69
>>>
>>> - Core 2 Quad Q6600
>>> - Abit IP35 Pro
>>> - 4 x 1GB OcUK PC2-6400 C5 800 MHZ Dual Channel
>>> - Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3
>>> - CiBox TFT 22" Widescreen LCD Panel. 1680 x 1050
>>> - Creative X-Fi 7.1 PCI-E
>>> - Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
>>> - Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
>>> - Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU
>>
>> ..started downloading it from a doubtful source no doubt if you aren't an
>> MSDN subscriber. SP1 RTM has NOT been released to the general public
>> and the above poster already stated that Windows update was offering a
>> BETA SP1...why is anyone's guess.
>> At this late stage I would wait until it is legally available.
>> SP1 enquiries should be addressed to the SP1 forum:
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...1992&SiteID=17
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> Toronto, Canada
>> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
>> Triple Boot
>>
>
>

According to other posts I've read this appears to be an error - it should
not be available on Windows Update at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

"rider" <rider43******.com> wrote in message
news:OBvfdCLdIHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Saucy -
> The installation of Vista is brand new. The SP1 update appeared at the end
> of the series of updates one typically does immediately after a fresh
> installation. No Beta version of SP1 has been installed and the registry
> has not been hacked. (In fact, the purpose of the post is to avoid putting
> a Beta version of SP1 on the computer.)
>
> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:OO$VT7KdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> One thing of note. If you have installed a beta version of the service
>> pack before or manually edited your registry, SP1 may be showing up on
>> Windows Update.
>>
>> So far, Windows Update will not show the availablility of the service
>> pack. But with a little registry editing, you can trigger Windows Update
>> to download and install the RTM SP1. If you want to know how, Google it.
>>
>> SP1 is out, but Microsoft is being selective as to who gets it, from
>> where, and when. Be patient and don't be tempted by the hacked versions
>> available through torrent software etc. and instead be sure to get it
>> through regular channels.
>>
>> Saucy
>
>

Support for Windows Update has always been free from Microsoft. I would
give them a call.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

Providing even more information, here is a link to a blogger who has
installed the SP1(x64) update that has been available on Windows Update:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=11914