Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an error on
the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal system
running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even though I'm
logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode, Vista
tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone tell me
how to cope with this? TIA

"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an error
> on
> the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal system
> running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even though
> I'm
> logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode, Vista
> tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone tell me
> how to cope with this? TIA
>
>[/color]

Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run as
Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

"Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an[/color][/color]
error[color=blue][color=green]
> > on
> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal[/color][/color]
system[color=blue][color=green]
> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even though
> > I'm
> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode, Vista
> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone tell[/color][/color]
me[color=blue][color=green]
> > how to cope with this? TIA[/color]
>
> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run as
> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,[/color]
It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other process is
using it."
How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a reboot
doesn't
help, even in safe mode.

"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:jK-dnXCrjO0diS_anZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an[/color][/color]
> error[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > on
>> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal[/color][/color]
> system[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
>> > though
>> > I'm
>> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode, Vista
>> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone tell[/color][/color]
> me[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > how to cope with this? TIA[/color]
>>
>> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run as
>> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,[/color]
> It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other process
> is
> using it."
> How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a reboot
> doesn't
> help, even in safe mode.
>
>[/color]

If you enter Y (for Yes) and Enter when it asks if you want to run at
reboot - it doesn't?

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:jK-dnXCrjO0diS_anZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an[/color][/color]
> error[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > on
>> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal[/color][/color]
> system[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
>> > though
>> > I'm
>> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode, Vista
>> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone tell[/color][/color]
> me[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > how to cope with this? TIA[/color]
>>
>> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run as
>> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,[/color]
> It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other process
> is
> using it."
> How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a reboot
> doesn't
> help, even in safe mode.
>
>[/color]

Perhaps you need to narrow the parameters. In the aforesaid CMD window
enter
chkdsk C: /r (with the spaces and assuming that it is C that you are
checking) then click Enter.
When asked to do it at next boot enter Y and hit Enter.
Reboot.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an[/color][/color]
> error[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > on
>> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal[/color][/color]
> system[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
>> > though
>> > I'm
>> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode, Vista
>> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone tell[/color][/color]
> me[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > how to cope with this? TIA[/color]
>>
>> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run as
>> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,[/color]
> It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other process
> is
> using it."
> How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a reboot
> doesn't
> help, even in safe mode.[/color]

It won't do C: like that because the operating system itself has the drive
locked. That being said, follow the instructions that Peter provided and see
what happens.

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"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> news:jK-dnXCrjO0diS_anZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
> >
> > "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an[/color]
> > error[color=darkred]
> >> > on
> >> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal[/color]
> > system[color=darkred]
> >> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
> >> > though
> >> > I'm
> >> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode,[/color][/color][/color]
Vista[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone[/color][/color][/color]
tell[color=blue][color=green]
> > me[color=darkred]
> >> > how to cope with this? TIA
> >>
> >> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run[/color][/color][/color]
as[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,[/color]
> > It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other[/color][/color]
process[color=blue][color=green]
> > is
> > using it."
> > How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a[/color][/color]
reboot[color=blue][color=green]
> > doesn't
> > help, even in safe mode.[/color]
>
> It won't do C: like that because the operating system itself has the drive
> locked. That being said, follow the instructions that Peter provided and[/color]
see[color=blue]
> what happens.[/color]

I did. And, I just repeated his process. Again, Vista claims some other
process is using the disk. My question stands: How can I find out which
process? Or, how can I bring up a very abbreviated system that doesn't
have lots of services etc running that might be getting in the way?

"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in
> message
> news:196DECB5-53C0-4F09-AB7C-6A1F5BF2719C@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> news:jK-dnXCrjO0diS_anZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> >> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an
>> > error
>> >> > on
>> >> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal
>> > system
>> >> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
>> >> > though
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode,[/color][/color]
> Vista[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone[/color][/color]
> tell[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > me
>> >> > how to cope with this? TIA
>> >>
>> >> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run[/color][/color]
> as[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,
>> > It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other[/color][/color]
> process[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > is
>> > using it."
>> > How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a[/color][/color]
> reboot[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > doesn't
>> > help, even in safe mode.[/color]
>>
>> It won't do C: like that because the operating system itself has the
>> drive
>> locked. That being said, follow the instructions that Peter provided and[/color]
> see[color=green]
>> what happens.[/color]
>
> I did. And, I just repeated his process. Again, Vista claims some
> other
> process is using the disk. My question stands: How can I find out which
> process? Or, how can I bring up a very abbreviated system that doesn't
> have lots of services etc running that might be getting in the way?
>
>[/color]

There will always be something preventing it running until next boot. Are
you typing in Y when it asks if you want to run at next boot and then
clicking Enter and immediately rebooting?
There's no need to know what process it is.


--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

When you instruct chkdsk to run at the next boot there will not be any
processes running to interfere with chkdsk.

You can not run chkdsk with the /f option from within Windows. Chkdsk can
NOT work with an active operating system (if you are trying to check the O/S
partition).

Make certain you initiate chkdsk from an elevated command prompt (ie: with
administrator privileges).

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User


"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in
> message
> news:196DECB5-53C0-4F09-AB7C-6A1F5BF2719C@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> news:jK-dnXCrjO0diS_anZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>> >> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an
>> > error
>> >> > on
>> >> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal
>> > system
>> >> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
>> >> > though
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode,[/color][/color]
> Vista[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone[/color][/color]
> tell[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > me
>> >> > how to cope with this? TIA
>> >>
>> >> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run[/color][/color]
> as[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,
>> > It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other[/color][/color]
> process[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > is
>> > using it."
>> > How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a[/color][/color]
> reboot[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > doesn't
>> > help, even in safe mode.[/color]
>>
>> It won't do C: like that because the operating system itself has the
>> drive
>> locked. That being said, follow the instructions that Peter provided and[/color]
> see[color=green]
>> what happens.[/color]
>
> I did. And, I just repeated his process. Again, Vista claims some
> other
> process is using the disk. My question stands: How can I find out which
> process? Or, how can I bring up a very abbreviated system that doesn't
> have lots of services etc running that might be getting in the way?
>
>[/color]

[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > I did. And, I just repeated his process. Again, Vista claims some
> > other
> > process is using the disk. My question stands: How can I find out which
> > process? Or, how can I bring up a very abbreviated system that doesn't
> > have lots of services etc running that might be getting in the way?
> >
> >[/color]
>
> There will always be something preventing it running until next boot. Are
> you typing in Y when it asks if you want to run at next boot and then
> clicking Enter and immediately rebooting?
> There's no need to know what process it is.
>
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
> Triple Boot
>
>[/color]
I'm having the same problem, and have tried everything. Check disk
absolutely will not start up after shutting down the system or doing a
reboot. I've gone into safe mode, no luck, DOS prompt, no luck. I've done
some searching and a LOT of people are having this issue. I really need to to
a system restore, but can't because I get a message saying I have to run
check disk. MS really needs to address this issue. Oh, and they want to
charge me $59 so they can help me solve THEIR problem? HA!

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:eIwnHwobIHA.5128@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> ......
> You can not run chkdsk with the /f option from within Windows. Chkdsk can
> NOT work with an active operating system (if you are trying to check the[/color]
O/S[color=blue]
> partition).
> .....[/color]

Yes. That's what I discovered. CHKDSK with no switches will run and
discover errors. But CHKDSK /r cannot fix errors because of the other
process(es) that are also accessing the disk. CHKDSK scheduled to run after
a restart doesn't seem to do anything.

Now, I notice the disk light is on solid on the computer (GF's) and that
probably explains why CHKDSK can't lock the drive. I tried ProcessExplorer
from System Internals but it doesn't show how many disk accesses are made by
various processes. A few processes seemed to use a bit of CPU time, but
that's what I expect if they are always waiting for a disk operation to
complete. Does Vista have some sort of built-in always running disk
optimizer?

There must be a stand-alone NTFS disk repair utility somewhere. Does
anybody know of one? TIA

"Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in[/color]
message[color=blue]
> news:196DECB5-53C0-4F09-AB7C-6A1F5BF2719C@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >
> >
> > "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> > news:jK-dnXCrjO0diS_anZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OTkSWjZbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> "Stubby" <William.Plummer*NO*SPAM*@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> > >> news:L8idnXKLx68pUyzanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > >> > Were trying to back up C: (Vista) but it complains that there is an
> > > error
> > >> > on
> > >> > the disk and advises to run CHKDSK. If I do this with the normal
> > > system
> > >> > running, I'm told I don't have sufficient rights to continue even
> > >> > though
> > >> > I'm
> > >> > logged in as an administrator. If I try running it in safemode,[/color][/color]
> Vista[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >> > tells me there is some other process using the disk. Can someone[/color][/color]
> tell[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > me
> > >> > how to cope with this? TIA
> > >>
> > >> Right-click Command Prompt (Start/All Programs/Accessories) and "Run[/color][/color]
> as[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >> Administrator" enter the command in that window and it should work,
> > > It still says things such as "can't lock drive because some other[/color][/color]
> process[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > is
> > > using it."
> > > How can I find out what process? Scheduling CHKDSK to run after a[/color][/color]
> reboot[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > doesn't
> > > help, even in safe mode.[/color]
> >
> > It won't do C: like that because the operating system itself has the[/color][/color]
drive[color=blue][color=green]
> > locked. That being said, follow the instructions that Peter provided and[/color]
> see[color=green]
> > what happens.[/color]
>
> I did. And, I just repeated his process. Again, Vista claims some[/color]
other[color=blue]
> process is using the disk. My question stands: How can I find out which
> process? Or, how can I bring up a very abbreviated system that doesn't
> have lots of services etc running that might be getting in the way?
>[/color]
A little more progress: I found that Diskeeper is running in the
background. DK came already installed on the Lenovo machine and is well
hidden as it doesn't show up on the process activity list.

My guess is that is locking the drive such that CHKDSK can't use it. If
someone can tell me how to kill off DK, I'll be thankful.