Go Away, Bad Monkey Imposter, Just FYI.

<Kevpan818@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%234DfCdraIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Lsy3TraIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> DP wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I tried it and I' ve got a button. Are you using 64-bit Vista? I see
>>> that website is dedicated to 64-bit. So maybe that's the issue?[/color]
>>
>> I am using 32 bit. I thought these direction would be similar.
>>
>> What is funny, is that it seems to be different on various 32
>> bit Vistas. Mine (32 bit Ultimate) bypasses the color
>> pallet completely[/color]
>
> I am using 32bit Ultimate. I get the same results as the page you
> directed me to. I dunno why the difference. Someone with a higher pay
> grade than mine will probably know.
>[/color]

I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they are
talking about!!!!

Virtual machines DO NOT SUPPORT AERO 3d !!! Perhaps in the future but not
now...
YOU ARE LIMITED TO NON AERO 3d, this means you can use aero basic and
classic themes...

IF YOU WANT to use AERO 3d in a virtual machine it is possible, only if:

1) you are running Vista with aero 3d enabled on the HOST
2) You enable the remote desktop on the CLIENT
3) You log on to the CLIENT from the Remote Desktop Client on the HOST

in other words you will be using the RDP client to view the destop of the
VM client.

in this case aero3d will be enabled.

I have done this.




"ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:OXNKKTsaIHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> DP wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23rKQp6raIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> DP wrote:
>>>> Do you have Aero turned on?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No Clue. How do I turn it on?
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> The very same page that you first alluded to (the one that doesn't have
>> the Advanced button) should offer Aero under "Color Scheme" (lower left
>> side of that page). In my case, Windows Aero is the very first option at
>> the top of the list of color schemes. If it doesn't show up, then maybe
>> your virtual video card is not deemed powerful enough to handle Aero, and
>> therefore the Advanced options.
>>[/color]
>
> Thank you! I wondered how that was done.
>
> It only shows "Vista Basic". Which explains why I can see the top
> part of my windows. (Those vanishing/transparent tops confuse me,
> as I have to actually search for the top of my windows. "Where
> is the stinkin' "X")
>
> Maybe the next iteration of Virtual Box will have a better video
> card. They update every two months. There is a lot of programming
> happing in Virtual Box. It just gets better and better.
>
> -T[/color]

"cheen" <cheen@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:47ad1637$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
>I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they are
>talking about!!!![/color]

I can't believe what a RETARD you are. Just FYI. You can't believe that
people don't know everything about Vista? Just FYI.

That is why they come here you PUTZ. People need information and you just
keep playing with yourself. Just FYI. Now put that tiny little thing away
and grow up.

Just FYI
[color=blue]
>
> Virtual machines DO NOT SUPPORT AERO 3d !!! Perhaps in the future but not
> now...
> YOU ARE LIMITED TO NON AERO 3d, this means you can use aero basic and
> classic themes...
>
> IF YOU WANT to use AERO 3d in a virtual machine it is possible, only if:
>
> 1) you are running Vista with aero 3d enabled on the HOST
> 2) You enable the remote desktop on the CLIENT
> 3) You log on to the CLIENT from the Remote Desktop Client on the HOST
>
> in other words you will be using the RDP client to view the destop of the
> VM client.
>
> in this case aero3d will be enabled.
>
> I have done this.
>
>
>
>
> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:OXNKKTsaIHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> DP wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23rKQp6raIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> DP wrote:
>>>>> Do you have Aero turned on?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No Clue. How do I turn it on?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The very same page that you first alluded to (the one that doesn't have
>>> the Advanced button) should offer Aero under "Color Scheme" (lower left
>>> side of that page). In my case, Windows Aero is the very first option
>>> at the top of the list of color schemes. If it doesn't show up, then
>>> maybe your virtual video card is not deemed powerful enough to handle
>>> Aero, and therefore the Advanced options.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Thank you! I wondered how that was done.
>>
>> It only shows "Vista Basic". Which explains why I can see the top
>> part of my windows. (Those vanishing/transparent tops confuse me,
>> as I have to actually search for the top of my windows. "Where
>> is the stinkin' "X")
>>
>> Maybe the next iteration of Virtual Box will have a better video
>> card. They update every two months. There is a lot of programming
>> happing in Virtual Box. It just gets better and better.
>>
>> -T[/color]
>
>[/color]

<kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uUZYpXsaIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Go Away, Bad Monkey Imposter, Just FYI.[/color]

OK. You talked him into it. I spoke with him and he will go away. Thank
you for the suggestion. Just FYI.

Just FYI. Remember to capitalize your sentences. Just FYI

Just FYI
[color=blue]
>
> <Kevpan818@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%234DfCdraIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23Lsy3TraIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> DP wrote:
>>>> I tried it and I' ve got a button. Are you using 64-bit Vista? I see
>>>> that website is dedicated to 64-bit. So maybe that's the issue?
>>>
>>> I am using 32 bit. I thought these direction would be similar.
>>>
>>> What is funny, is that it seems to be different on various 32
>>> bit Vistas. Mine (32 bit Ultimate) bypasses the color
>>> pallet completely[/color]
>>
>> I am using 32bit Ultimate. I get the same results as the page you
>> directed me to. I dunno why the difference. Someone with a higher pay
>> grade than mine will probably know.
>>[/color]
>[/color]

[color=blue]
>
> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rKQp6raIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> DP wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Do you have Aero turned on?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> No Clue. How do I turn it on?
>>[color=darkred]
>>> And what about your video card? Does it have a lot of muscle?[/color]
>>
>> My video card is a fake video card supplied by my
>> virtual machine. Vista thinks it is a "Virtual
>> Box Video Adapter". I do believe the max
>> fake video memory is 128 meg. (I should probably
>> as Virtual Box to increase this.)
>>
>> My actual video card is an "eVGA nVidia e-GeForce
>> 7600 KO 256MB DDR3 PCI-Express x16 Dual DVI
>> Video Adapter". It has a lot of horse power.
>>
>> -T
>>
>> Right now I am running Linux on as my host,
>> XP in a virtual window, and Vista in another
>> virtual window. I am a true "Power User"!
>> (It can be a bit confusing at times, so I
>> typically try to only run one instance/version
>> of Windows a time.)
>>
>> And, since Linux thinks my virtual machines
>> are just a large file on the hard drive, I
>> can back EVERYTHING up by making a copy
>> of that file. Cool stuff. Takes
>> about 6 minutes to accomplish.
>> Restores in the same amount of time.[/color]
>[/color]

DP wrote:[color=blue]
>
> I've been messing around with running XP Home in a virtual machine on
> Vista 64 bit, using MS's Virtual PC. Pretty cool. The real machine (not
> the virtual one) also dual boots to Win XP Pro 64-bit. So, I'm a power
> user too. If I can find a version of Linux that EASILY installs into
> Virtual PC, I'll give that a shot as well.[/color]

I use CentOS ([url]www.centos.org[/url]), a clone of Red Hat enterprise Linux,
as my host. This because I need "Enterprise" level quality to
support my Linux servers out there (I have w2k0 and w2k3
servers out there as well, so no one get their feeling hurt!)

You may wish to consider using Linux as your host. With the open
source dump/restore utility you can back up EVERYTHING on your
hard drive: no registry, hidden files, file locks, system files,
hidden files to worry about. You also get a self healing/journaling
file system. And you get about 50% more performance on the same hardware
as XP (100% more than Vista?). Extra performance on the host is
valuable when you suffer from the performance hits of a virtual machine.

I "love" my set up. I get the best of both the MS and the Linux
worlds.

Oh! Virtual Box ([url]http://www.virtualbox.org/[/url]) is now supporting
the VT-X hardware features. Warning: you have to re-enable
it every update to Virtual Box.

My next virtual project: create a virtual machine for ReactOS
(an open source XP clone). This could come in useful if
my customers can not make the XP, Vista transition, due to
program incompatibilities and performance issues (Vista currently
being 50% slower that XP) and XP becomes no longer obtainable.
(I don't see ReactOS going anywhere, unless MS removes XP from
the market.)


[color=blue]
> Now, maybe the fact that your Vista computer is a virtual one may be the
> issue here. The video card capability is pretty limited inside virtual
> machines. According to my limited understanding, the software you use to
> virtualize creates a not-very-powerful "fake" video card, which is your
> case, as I understand it. Maybe that fake card can't handle the
> "advanced" settings.[/color]


Sounds like you called it. Vista still runs well in the
virtual machine. It may even run better without the fancy stuff.


[color=blue]
>
> BTW: You might have gotten useful advice quicker if you'd said at the
> outset that this was Vista running in a virtual machine. Not lecturing;
> only suggesting. The more details the better when you post.[/color]



The trick is to give just the right amount of info. Give too
little and you don't get a good answer. Give too much and
the responders will sometimes go off on tangents, especially
if you use the phrase "I do not have a v-i-r-u-s". You get tons of
links to anti virus sites.

What is wrong with you, idiot? He gave a very clear explanation why aero is
not available in virtual machine. You post is just cr*p, you tuchis.

<Kevpan818@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OzZlXisaIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "cheen" <cheen@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:47ad1637$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=green]
>>I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they
>>are talking about!!!![/color]
>
> I can't believe what a RETARD you are. Just FYI. You can't believe that
> people don't know everything about Vista? Just FYI.
>
> That is why they come here you PUTZ. People need information and you just
> keep playing with yourself. Just FYI. Now put that tiny little thing
> away and grow up.
>
> Just FYI
>[color=green]
>>
>> Virtual machines DO NOT SUPPORT AERO 3d !!! Perhaps in the future but not
>> now...
>> YOU ARE LIMITED TO NON AERO 3d, this means you can use aero basic and
>> classic themes...
>>
>> IF YOU WANT to use AERO 3d in a virtual machine it is possible, only if:
>>
>> 1) you are running Vista with aero 3d enabled on the HOST
>> 2) You enable the remote desktop on the CLIENT
>> 3) You log on to the CLIENT from the Remote Desktop Client on the HOST
>>
>> in other words you will be using the RDP client to view the destop of
>> the VM client.
>>
>> in this case aero3d will be enabled.
>>
>> I have done this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:OXNKKTsaIHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> DP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23rKQp6raIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> DP wrote:
>>>>>> Do you have Aero turned on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No Clue. How do I turn it on?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The very same page that you first alluded to (the one that doesn't have
>>>> the Advanced button) should offer Aero under "Color Scheme" (lower left
>>>> side of that page). In my case, Windows Aero is the very first option
>>>> at the top of the list of color schemes. If it doesn't show up, then
>>>> maybe your virtual video card is not deemed powerful enough to handle
>>>> Aero, and therefore the Advanced options.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you! I wondered how that was done.
>>>
>>> It only shows "Vista Basic". Which explains why I can see the top
>>> part of my windows. (Those vanishing/transparent tops confuse me,
>>> as I have to actually search for the top of my windows. "Where
>>> is the stinkin' "X")
>>>
>>> Maybe the next iteration of Virtual Box will have a better video
>>> card. They update every two months. There is a lot of programming
>>> happing in Virtual Box. It just gets better and better.
>>>
>>> -T[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

cheen wrote:[color=blue]
> I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they are
> talking about!!!![/color]

We all have to learn some time. Chatting with, sharing experiences
with other professionals about new and sometime fascinating technologies
is a rare treat. Also a great way to learn in an extremely rapid
time frame. Don't let it bother you.

And, yes, I do tend to spend too much time doing the same with
willing tech support professionals on the phone.

-T

cheen wrote:
[color=blue]
> IF YOU WANT to use AERO 3d in a virtual machine it is possible, only if:
>
> 1) you are running Vista with aero 3d enabled on the HOST
> 2) You enable the remote desktop on the CLIENT
> 3) You log on to the CLIENT from the Remote Desktop Client on the HOST[/color]

Hmmm. The virtual machine has no clue it is a virtual machine.
(Virus programmers excepted, as they have to look for
common VM hardware and guess at it, like old network cards,
etc..) The virtual machine is also isolated from the host
and has no clue it exists.

I would presume that the reason Aero is not supported would
be the lack on fake virtual hardware that meets its
requirements.

Do you know of some reason Vista would go out of its way
to check if it was a virtual machine and then react
accordingly? I see no reason for it, but I have been wrong
before.

-T

"AlexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ORMrrssaIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> What is wrong with you, idiot? He gave a very clear explanation why aero
> is not available in virtual machine. You post is just cr*p, you tuchis.[/color]

Look who is talking. Just FYI. You are the complete idiot here. If you
would stop stalking farm animals and get a clue, the world would be a much
better place. You have no idea what you are talking about. Don't step in
where you are not needed. Just FYI.

Just FYI
[color=blue]
>
> <Kevpan818@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OzZlXisaIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "cheen" <cheen@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:47ad1637$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=darkred]
>>>I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they
>>>are talking about!!!![/color]
>>
>> I can't believe what a RETARD you are. Just FYI. You can't believe that
>> people don't know everything about Vista? Just FYI.
>>
>> That is why they come here you PUTZ. People need information and you
>> just keep playing with yourself. Just FYI. Now put that tiny little
>> thing away and grow up.
>>
>> Just FYI
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Virtual machines DO NOT SUPPORT AERO 3d !!! Perhaps in the future but
>>> not now...
>>> YOU ARE LIMITED TO NON AERO 3d, this means you can use aero basic and
>>> classic themes...
>>>
>>> IF YOU WANT to use AERO 3d in a virtual machine it is possible, only if:
>>>
>>> 1) you are running Vista with aero 3d enabled on the HOST
>>> 2) You enable the remote desktop on the CLIENT
>>> 3) You log on to the CLIENT from the Remote Desktop Client on the HOST
>>>
>>> in other words you will be using the RDP client to view the destop of
>>> the VM client.
>>>
>>> in this case aero3d will be enabled.
>>>
>>> I have done this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OXNKKTsaIHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> DP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23rKQp6raIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> DP wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you have Aero turned on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No Clue. How do I turn it on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The very same page that you first alluded to (the one that doesn't
>>>>> have the Advanced button) should offer Aero under "Color Scheme"
>>>>> (lower left side of that page). In my case, Windows Aero is the very
>>>>> first option at the top of the list of color schemes. If it doesn't
>>>>> show up, then maybe your virtual video card is not deemed powerful
>>>>> enough to handle Aero, and therefore the Advanced options.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you! I wondered how that was done.
>>>>
>>>> It only shows "Vista Basic". Which explains why I can see the top
>>>> part of my windows. (Those vanishing/transparent tops confuse me,
>>>> as I have to actually search for the top of my windows. "Where
>>>> is the stinkin' "X")
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the next iteration of Virtual Box will have a better video
>>>> card. They update every two months. There is a lot of programming
>>>> happing in Virtual Box. It just gets better and better.
>>>>
>>>> -T
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Its ok of course no one knows everything... I didnt mean you since of course
you asked the question

I too learn a lot in here and have used the newsgroups as a source of
knowledge.


"ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:uE7WhvsaIHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> cheen wrote:[color=green]
>> I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they
>> are talking about!!!![/color]
>
> We all have to learn some time. Chatting with, sharing experiences
> with other professionals about new and sometime fascinating technologies
> is a rare treat. Also a great way to learn in an extremely rapid
> time frame. Don't let it bother you.
>
> And, yes, I do tend to spend too much time doing the same with
> willing tech support professionals on the phone.
>
> -T[/color]

"cheen" <cheen@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:47ad210c@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> Its ok of course no one knows everything... I didnt mean you since of
> course you asked the question
>
> I too learn a lot in here and have used the newsgroups as a source of
> knowledge.[/color]

Not according to your parole officer. Just FYI. He says that you are doing
better. Maybe you can land a job in the near future. Just FYI
[color=blue]
>
>
> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:uE7WhvsaIHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> cheen wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I cant believe on this endless thread of people who dont know what they
>>> are talking about!!!![/color]
>>
>> We all have to learn some time. Chatting with, sharing experiences
>> with other professionals about new and sometime fascinating technologies
>> is a rare treat. Also a great way to learn in an extremely rapid
>> time frame. Don't let it bother you.
>>
>> And, yes, I do tend to spend too much time doing the same with
>> willing tech support professionals on the phone.
>>
>> -T[/color]
>
>[/color]

DP wrote:[color=blue]
>
> I've been messing around with running XP Home in a virtual machine on
> Vista 64 bit, using MS's Virtual PC. Pretty cool. The real machine (not
> the virtual one) also dual boots to Win XP Pro 64-bit. So, I'm a power
> user too. If I can find a version of Linux that EASILY installs into
> Virtual PC, I'll give that a shot as well.[/color]

DP,

An idea! I test my Bart PE disks on a virtual machine.
I tell the virtual machine to boot off the CD/DVD drive
and its tests them perfectly.

You could do the same with any Linux Live CD to get
use to Linux (or tear all your hair out!).

-T

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:03:05 -0800, ToddAndMargo wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to get to the "Advanced" desktop settings.
>
> I am reading the following directions:
>
> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/78281-advanced-appearance.html[/url]
>
> On step 4, it says to:
>
> 4. Click the Advanced button. (See screenshot below)
>
> I may be going blind, but where is this mystery "Advanced" button?
>[/color]

Have you checked next to the Any key? ;)

Sorry...couldn't resist!


--
Stephan
1986 Pontiac Fiero GT

君の事思い出す日なんてないのは
君の事忘れたときがないから

My understanding is that there is an issue with Linux color depth that
doesn't mesh with the color depth of Virtual PC's vm's. Or something like
that.
There are ways to get it to work using some tweaks that I don't recall and
probably didn't understand, but I'm just looking for an easy way to get it
to work. You know, pop the CD in, install, use.

In fact, I did try that with one of the live CDs. I forget which one. All I
got was garbage on the screen after the install was finished.


"ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:OVzVCftaIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> DP wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> I've been messing around with running XP Home in a virtual machine on
>> Vista 64 bit, using MS's Virtual PC. Pretty cool. The real machine (not
>> the virtual one) also dual boots to Win XP Pro 64-bit. So, I'm a power
>> user too. If I can find a version of Linux that EASILY installs into
>> Virtual PC, I'll give that a shot as well.[/color]
>
> DP,
>
> An idea! I test my Bart PE disks on a virtual machine.
> I tell the virtual machine to boot off the CD/DVD drive
> and its tests them perfectly.
>
> You could do the same with any Linux Live CD to get
> use to Linux (or tear all your hair out!).
>
> -T[/color]

Stephan Rose wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:03:05 -0800, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am trying to get to the "Advanced" desktop settings.
>>
>> I am reading the following directions:
>>
>> [url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/78281-advanced-appearance.html[/url]
>>
>> On step 4, it says to:
>>
>> 4. Click the Advanced button. (See screenshot below)
>>
>> I may be going blind, but where is this mystery "Advanced" button?
>>[/color]
>
> Have you checked next to the Any key? ;)
>
> Sorry...couldn't resist!
>
>[/color]

The "Any Key"???? All this time I thought it was
the "DEL-ivery" key! :-D