Your loss.

"Paul Knudsen" <pknudsen@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:14:33 -0000, "John Barnett MVP"
> <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Sorry, there is no way I am bottom posting.
>
> Bye-Bye!

The date and time was 2/1/2008 4:15 PM, and on a whim, Twayne pounded
out on the keyboard:

>> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The date and time was 1/31/2008 1:16 PM, and on a whim, Robyn
>>> pounded out on the keyboard:
>>>
>>>> I will keep top posting and that's that! Don't like it, too
>>>> bad!! This is where it opens when I reply to a post within the
>>>> microsoft discussion groups, I don't use my windows live mail for
>>>> newsgroups!
>>> Ever hear of program configuration?
>
> When you figure out what you're talking about, you'll realize OE won't,
> on its own, allow ANY but the top cursor positioning.

Yes dipstick, it's called QuoteFix.

>
>>> Hopefully you pull down your pants before going to the bathroom...
>
> Sounds like the voice of experience over past problems speaking there
>

Sounds like you haven't yet figured out the diarrhea is coming from your
mouth.

> Note: This is NOT bottom posted.
>> Not necessarily.... http://blinkynet.net/comp/toppost.html
>
>
>


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"Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in
news:fnvp33$m5i$1@news.mixmin.net:
> Its the horrible web interface that MS directs people to - in the
> past, the first link on MS websites used to open the newsgroup in OE
> (or whatever newsreader was in use), now the first link is to the
> horrible web interface...
Ok thanks for the heads up.

XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9A377F0525768xs11eyahoocom@
127.0.0.1:
> As sharks go... ;-)
well he does not bite too hard<G>,
>
> No problem, you can always go back if there's something you don't like
> about the latest version, Blinky has now archived many older releases
> on his site.
I forgot to check that out when i was looking at his site today
>
> CDO = "I'm such a newbie I think a web interface is OK for posting to
> newsgroups."

Ok thnaks

And I wish everyone would top post. I doubt either of us will get our
wish.


On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:47:55 +0000 (UTC), john sumner
<js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote:

>I am not a net cop, but i wish the people in this news group would stop the
>top posting, bottom post please.

Actually, in most cases I don't need to read the quoted text as I read
newsgroups sorted by conversation so in most cases I probably just READ the
text in the previous message and don't need to see it again. If I do THEN I
can just scroll down to see what was said. Usually the most relevant
content is near the top with the older text (which I had probably read on
previous days) is safely at the bottom of them message where I don't have to
wade through it. Also if we make sure our posts are complete thoughts,
usually the reader won't need the previous post to figure out what I'm
talking about.

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Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com



"Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not> wrote in message
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> "john sumner" <js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>I am not a net cop, but i wish the people in this news group would stop
>>the
>> top posting, bottom post please.
>
>
> Charlie42
>
> to keep track of.
> very hard
> It makes discussions
> hate top posting.
> Personally, I

I use Windows Live Mail and set it to top post so mine automatically opens
at the top by default. I have noticed that bottom posters then to be the
ones that leave one or two word posts or threads that compose essentially of
the....

> are so!
>> am not!!
>>> are so!

type of conversation anyway.

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"Robyn" <Robyn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I will keep top posting and that's that! Don't like it, too bad!! This
> is
> where it opens when I reply to a post within the microsoft discussion
> groups,
> I don't use my windows live mail for newsgroups!
> --
> Robyn
>
>
> "David B." wrote:
>
>> I'd rather you top post.
>>
>> --
>>
>> ----
>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> __________________________________________________ _______________________________
>>
>>
>> "john sumner" <js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A366DD825877jp33441aolcom@news.albasani.n et...
>> >I am not a net cop, but i wish the people in this news group would stop
>> >the
>> > top posting, bottom post please.
>>
>>

Actually for the most part this newsgroup is EXTREMELY informative. I can't
tell you the number of things I have learned reading this group from the
many people who have contributed information here. I just ignore most of
the conversation as background noise and static.

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"john sumner" <js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote in message
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> =?Utf-8?B?Um9ieW4=?= <Robyn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:006E68D1-DB44-47EA-9503-88ABDF809512@microsoft.com:
>
>> I will keep top posting and that's that! Don't like it, too bad!!
>> This is where it opens when I reply to a post within the microsoft
>> discussion groups, I don't use my windows live mail for newsgroups!
>
> man you sond very hostile, i understand why you all like to top post and i
> will still read this group, because i might learn something

Actually I stand corrected. If you are going to post a one word response
such as ... WHY? you should bottom post or at least place your post in
context to the message you are replying to. Top posting a one word answer
is a but confusing. Take the time and assume the other person doesn't have
the time to go find out what you are referring to and include it in your
answer.

--
Mark R. Cusumano
Skype Name: mark.cusumano
Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com



"Twayne" <nodoby@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> Why?
>
>
>> john sumner <js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in
>>
>>>> Yep, only one thing worse that Live Mail for newsgroup use....
>>>> a web interface !
>>>
>>> Thats why i have google in my bozo bin, too many cluless people,
>>> makes the old aol look a lot smarter<BG>
>>
>> Agreed but I've found I finally had to scorefile people using the
>> horrible CDO for posting, again, too many clueless people.
>>
>> BTW, you might want to update your copy of Xnews, your version is 6
>> years old and there have been a lot of new releases since. The
>> current version is 2006.08.24
>>
>> Reference:
>> http://blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
>
>
>
> --
> Twayne
>
> Tired of MS Office and their shananigans?
> Try this free replacement:
> http://www.openoffice.org
>

Mark R. Cusumano wrote:
> I use Windows Live Mail and set it to top post so mine automatically
> opens at the top by default. I have noticed that bottom posters then to
> be the ones that leave one or two word posts or threads that compose
> essentially of the....
>
>> are so!
>>> am not!!
>>>> are so!
>
> type of conversation anyway.
>


I think your statement is false concerning bottom posters.


In all Usenet reality, (which you are not part of) posting at the bottom
of quoted text makes it easy for people to read the complete thread as
following it is easy. You and others who top post break the fluidity of
the thread which is a shame. Why be self centered, just post the way
that is appropriate and Usenet community accepted. Can you handle that?

"Mark R. Cusumano" <spam@bitbucket.com> wrote in
news:PuudnXepVYP16jnanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> Actually for the most part this newsgroup is EXTREMELY informative. I
> can't tell you the number of things I have learned reading this group
> from the many people who have contributed information here. I just
> ignore most of the conversation as background noise and static.

Mark i agree about that, have learned a lot about it, since i have joined
and i guess about top posting i am somewhat old school<G>

Hi Mark,
Even with a one word answer top posting works fine if the relevant info one
is replying to is included directly below.

"Mark R. Cusumano" <spam@bitbucket.com> wrote in message
news:7dadnW5-j6Xp5TnanZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Actually I stand corrected. If you are going to post a one word response
> such as ... WHY? you should bottom post or at least place your post in
> context to the message you are replying to. Top posting a one word answer
> is a but confusing. Take the time and assume the other person doesn't
> have the time to go find out what you are referring to and include it in
> your answer.
>
> --
> Mark R. Cusumano
> Skype Name: mark.cusumano
> Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com
>
>
>
> "Twayne" <nodoby@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:EAOoj.13603$K%.2878@trnddc04...
>> Why?

"Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:mf6dnU_LTKY95jnanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast.com:

> Hi Mark,
> Even with a one word answer top posting works fine if the relevant
> info one is replying to is included directly below.
I do try not to have one word answers, but sometimes it is too tempting<G>

Ok.

"john sumner" <js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in
> news:mf6dnU_LTKY95jnanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>> Even with a one word answer top posting works fine if the relevant
>> info one is replying to is included directly below.
> I do try not to have one word answers, but sometimes it is too tempting<G>

Why? Top posting is easier and faster when reading replies in a thread. No
having to scroll down to the bottom to read a reply. I've never understood
why anyone would bottom post. I own some newsgroups and everyone
has always top posted their replies. It's the common sense natural way to do
it, and it would never even occur to anyone on our groups to bottom post a
reply. Sometimes the threads can get quite long and it would be a huge waste
of time if we had to scroll down to read the next reply in each message if
people bottom posted their replies. It would be crazy to use bottom posting
with a thread that might have replies a dozen levels deep. With top posting
you can read the thread and follow the conversation quickly and easily. I'm
wondering...do you group your messages by conversation? I use OE in XP and
Windows Mail in Vista as newsreaders and have always grouped messages by
conversation.

Richard


"john sumner" <js33441NOSPAM@aol.com> wrote in message
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I am not a net cop, but i wish the people in this news group would stop the
top posting, bottom post please.