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Old 01-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Curious
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

Almost all cards have two output connections which means with Vista and the
card drivers either Clone mode or extended desktop mode can be used with
displays connected to 2 of the connectors,
There real question is if you want 2 displays supported does that mean one
VGA and one DVI or S-Video or does it mean that you want 2 VGA interfaces or
2 DVI interfaces or some other combination.
"Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D9480106-E0DC-4628-A1AF-A24BDD537F62@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> I cannot vouch for ATI, but the Nvidia range from the GeForce FX series
>> onwards supports Vista with dual monitor support on cards from the
>> GeForce 6
>> range upwards. You can install more than one video card in your PC if
>> your
>> motherboard supports this, but best results will come if you use
>> identical
>> boards from the same manufacturer. Problems can arise when using
>> different
>> cards, more so when one of the cards is based on the Nvidia GPU and the
>> other
>> on the ATI GPU. This is because the different graphics drivers can
>> conflict
>> with each other. In short, you should be able to use cards from both
>> manufacturers so long as you don't mix and match them.
>> Dwarf
>>
>> "Andrea M. Gates" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Which video adpater, single card, support dual display in Vista? Prefer
>>> low
>>> cost cards.
>>>
>>> For office use in 4 buildings, around 200 systems.
>>> Not for game. No need for fancy graphics.
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Thank you for your response.
> But, it would be simple for us if we can get one display adapters with
> dual display output driving dual monitors. However, not driving the two
> monitors as identical display, but as dual monitors extending the Vista
> Windows display. Is there such low cost display adpaters?[/color]

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Old 01-24-2008, 05:10 PM
Andrea M. Gates
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

Colin,
Thank you for your reply.
I read both the two NewEgg adapters, but they only said the adapter card has
2 DVI output connectors. Are we assume this two DVI connectors drives two
monitors showing extended Vista screens (not two identical display like
typical laptop display sockets)? I dig everywhere, it never said this
extended Vista screens fact. Because Vista requires both screen are driven
by same WDDM driver. Correct?

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:943BF637-55ED-4F20-BA3B-BEA8A57535D6@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Most of the current crop of display adaptors have dual output ports and
> Windows permits the monitors to run in extended desktop mode. What I
> think I hear you asking about would be something like
> [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102703[/url]
> or [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085[/url]
> unless the workstations' power supplies are an issue.
>
> Here is the Windows Vista Hardware Compatibility List filtered for video
> adaptors:
> [url]http://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/ProductList.aspx?m=v&g=d&cid=303&f=86p[/url]
> I would hope that the list includes suitable adaptors for your systems.
>
> This is so straightforward that I feel I must be missing something here.
>
> "Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uxSPiMsXIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D9480106-E0DC-4628-A1AF-A24BDD537F62@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>
>>> I cannot vouch for ATI, but the Nvidia range from the GeForce FX series
>>> onwards supports Vista with dual monitor support on cards from the
>>> GeForce 6
>>> range upwards. You can install more than one video card in your PC if
>>> your
>>> motherboard supports this, but best results will come if you use
>>> identical
>>> boards from the same manufacturer. Problems can arise when using
>>> different
>>> cards, more so when one of the cards is based on the Nvidia GPU and the
>>> other
>>> on the ATI GPU. This is because the different graphics drivers can
>>> conflict
>>> with each other. In short, you should be able to use cards from both
>>> manufacturers so long as you don't mix and match them.
>>> Dwarf
>>>
>>> "Andrea M. Gates" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which video adpater, single card, support dual display in Vista? Prefer
>>>> low
>>>> cost cards.
>>>>
>>>> For office use in 4 buildings, around 200 systems.
>>>> Not for game. No need for fancy graphics.
>>>>
>>>>[/color]
>>
>> Thank you for your response.
>> But, it would be simple for us if we can get one display adapters with
>> dual display output driving dual monitors. However, not driving the two
>> monitors as identical display, but as dual monitors extending the Vista
>> Windows display. Is there such low cost display adpaters?[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 01-24-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

Because we have tried and found two display adapters will NOT work in Vista.
We have purchased 6 differernt adapter with ATI & Nvida chips.
None works with extended dual screens.
Vista require both adapters use the same WDDM driver.
Otherwise, Vista will simpily disable the other adapter.

Microsoft: "The user could change the graphics hardware configuration by choosing multiple graphics adapters that use the same WDDM driver. " Nobody I know of has been able to do this.
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uc7A$euXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
As does nVidia's manager. Mideyhsd, I have to wonder why Andrea has not been able to resolve this one. The way she keeps describing the business need it looks very straightforward. But this has dragged out for weeks.

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Old 01-24-2008, 05:40 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

Yes. The two ports provide video output to the monitors but the
configuration of how the displays work together is controlled by Windows.
You set one monitor as the primary and the other to extend the desktop over
it. You can do this with the Vista Personalization/Display Settings or use
the software that comes with the video adaptor (ATI Catalyst or nVidia
Control Panel depending of course on the card you purchase). There are
several configuration choices besides the Extended Desktop.

"Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Colin,
> Thank you for your reply.
> I read both the two NewEgg adapters, but they only said the adapter card
> has 2 DVI output connectors. Are we assume this two DVI connectors drives
> two monitors showing extended Vista screens (not two identical display
> like typical laptop display sockets)? I dig everywhere, it never said this
> extended Vista screens fact. Because Vista requires both screen are driven
> by same WDDM driver. Correct?
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:943BF637-55ED-4F20-BA3B-BEA8A57535D6@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Most of the current crop of display adaptors have dual output ports and
>> Windows permits the monitors to run in extended desktop mode. What I
>> think I hear you asking about would be something like
>> [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102703[/url]
>> or [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085[/url]
>> unless the workstations' power supplies are an issue.
>>
>> Here is the Windows Vista Hardware Compatibility List filtered for video
>> adaptors:
>> [url]http://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/ProductList.aspx?m=v&g=d&cid=303&f=86p[/url]
>> I would hope that the list includes suitable adaptors for your systems.
>>
>> This is so straightforward that I feel I must be missing something here.
>>
>> "Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:uxSPiMsXIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:D9480106-E0DC-4628-A1AF-A24BDD537F62@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>
>>>> I cannot vouch for ATI, but the Nvidia range from the GeForce FX series
>>>> onwards supports Vista with dual monitor support on cards from the
>>>> GeForce 6
>>>> range upwards. You can install more than one video card in your PC if
>>>> your
>>>> motherboard supports this, but best results will come if you use
>>>> identical
>>>> boards from the same manufacturer. Problems can arise when using
>>>> different
>>>> cards, more so when one of the cards is based on the Nvidia GPU and the
>>>> other
>>>> on the ATI GPU. This is because the different graphics drivers can
>>>> conflict
>>>> with each other. In short, you should be able to use cards from both
>>>> manufacturers so long as you don't mix and match them.
>>>> Dwarf
>>>>
>>>> "Andrea M. Gates" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Which video adpater, single card, support dual display in Vista?
>>>>> Prefer low
>>>>> cost cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> For office use in 4 buildings, around 200 systems.
>>>>> Not for game. No need for fancy graphics.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your response.
>>> But, it would be simple for us if we can get one display adapters with
>>> dual display output driving dual monitors. However, not driving the two
>>> monitors as identical display, but as dual monitors extending the Vista
>>> Windows display. Is there such low cost display adpaters?[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 01-24-2008, 05:40 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

That is correct. You only need one card with two outputs if I understand your need correctly.
"Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%23OpBG2uXIHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Because we have tried and found two display adapters will NOT work in Vista.
We have purchased 6 differernt adapter with ATI & Nvida chips.
None works with extended dual screens.
Vista require both adapters use the same WDDM driver.
Otherwise, Vista will simpily disable the other adapter.

Microsoft: "The user could change the graphics hardware configuration by choosing multiple graphics adapters that use the same WDDM driver. " Nobody I know of has been able to do this.
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uc7A$euXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
As does nVidia's manager. Mideyhsd, I have to wonder why Andrea has not been able to resolve this one. The way she keeps describing the business need it looks very straightforward. But this has dragged out for weeks.

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Old 01-24-2008, 06:20 PM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

Yes, must be one card, using one WDDM driver only.

Otherwise, Vista will disable one of the two graphic adapter and shows error code 43.

Where can I serarch for low cost dual output graphic adapters for over 200+ systems?

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Old 01-24-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

I would contact the business sales dept at your preferred supplier. They will need to understand that the cards need Vista drivers of course. Newegg is competitive but the links I gave you are retail sales and you want business to business so call. There are many other suppliers like Dell and Gateway who can handle business to business purchasing like this.
"Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u6M5CfvXIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Yes, must be one card, using one WDDM driver only.

Otherwise, Vista will disable one of the two graphic adapter and shows error code 43.

Where can I serarch for low cost dual output graphic adapters for over 200+ systems?

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Old 01-26-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?



"Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uxSPiMsXIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D9480106-E0DC-4628-A1AF-A24BDD537F62@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> I cannot vouch for ATI, but the Nvidia range from the GeForce FX series
>> onwards supports Vista with dual monitor support on cards from the
>> GeForce 6
>> range upwards. You can install more than one video card in your PC if
>> your
>> motherboard supports this, but best results will come if you use
>> identical
>> boards from the same manufacturer. Problems can arise when using
>> different
>> cards, more so when one of the cards is based on the Nvidia GPU and the
>> other
>> on the ATI GPU. This is because the different graphics drivers can
>> conflict
>> with each other. In short, you should be able to use cards from both
>> manufacturers so long as you don't mix and match them.
>> Dwarf
>>
>> "Andrea M. Gates" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Which video adpater, single card, support dual display in Vista? Prefer
>>> low
>>> cost cards.
>>>
>>> For office use in 4 buildings, around 200 systems.
>>> Not for game. No need for fancy graphics.
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Thank you for your response.
> But, it would be simple for us if we can get one display adapters with
> dual display output driving dual monitors. However, not driving the two
> monitors as identical display, but as dual monitors extending the Vista
> Windows display. Is there such low cost display adpaters?[/color]

[url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/products/home.php[/url]

Look at the GXM section.

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Old 01-26-2008, 12:20 PM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

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>
> [url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/products/home.php[/url]
>
> Look at the GXM section.
>
> --
> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.
> [url]http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel[/url]
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>
>[/color]

But these are for XP or older systems. None are for Vista.
For XP, we used multiple low cost garphic adapters from all different make
and working well.
But unable to do none since Vista.

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Old 01-27-2008, 08:41 AM
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"Andrea M. Gates" <Andrea.Gates.no.spam@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in
> message news:E8601A80-4C5F-459A-9F2B-CB45B8D13535@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>
>> [url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/products/home.php[/url]
>>
>> Look at the GXM section.
>>
>> --
>> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.
>> [url]http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel[/url]
>> Undo the munge to reply by email
>>
>>[/color]
>
> But these are for XP or older systems. None are for Vista.
> For XP, we used multiple low cost garphic adapters from all different make
> and working well.
> But unable to do none since Vista.[/color]

Did you actually READ the website?

Following the links for the drivers shows drivers for 32bit and 64bit Vista
for ALL of the cards. Additionally...

[url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/dh2go/home.php[/url]

Under requirements, IT clearly shows it supports both 32bit AND 64bit
versions of Vista. Honestly, from the tone of all your replies so far, you
have not actually researched any recommendations given to you by anyone, and
seem only to want try and make people believe that there is a problem where
none exists. I have given you an option that clearly does what you want, and
yet you are trying to say it does not. Are you truly seeking help, or are
you just trolling?

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Old 01-27-2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in message
news:68C81ECF-D86A-4427-A4A2-A0D0E9AC33E9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> Did you actually READ the website?
>
> Following the links for the drivers shows drivers for 32bit and 64bit
> Vista for ALL of the cards. Additionally...
>
> [url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/dh2go/home.php[/url]
>
> Under requirements, IT clearly shows it supports both 32bit AND 64bit
> versions of Vista. Honestly, from the tone of all your replies so far, you
> have not actually researched any recommendations given to you by anyone,
> and seem only to want try and make people believe that there is a problem
> where none exists. I have given you an option that clearly does what you
> want, and yet you are trying to say it does not. Are you truly seeking
> help, or are you just trolling?
>
> --
> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.
> [url]http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel[/url]
> Undo the munge to reply by email
>
>[/color]

This is very expensive external box, clearly NOT low cost internal graphic
adapter we are seeking for use in hundreds systems.

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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in message
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>[color=green]
>>[/color]
> Following the links for the drivers shows drivers for 32bit and 64bit
> Vista for ALL of the cards. Additionally...
>
> [url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/dh2go/home.php[/url]
>
> Under requirements, IT clearly shows it supports both 32bit AND 64bit
> versions of Vista. Honestly, from the tone of all your replies so far, you
> have not actually researched any recommendations given to you by anyone,
> and seem only to want try and make people believe that there is a problem
> where none exists. I have given you an option that clearly does what you
> want, and yet you are trying to say it does not. Are you truly seeking
> help, or are you just trolling?
>
> --
> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.
> [url]http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel[/url]
> Undo the munge to reply by email
>
>[/color]

I do not need your continue un-helpful sexist attack. So please get off this
posting. You have contribute nothing.

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Old 01-27-2008, 04:30 PM
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in
> message
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>>
>>
>> Did you actually READ the website?
>>
>> Following the links for the drivers shows drivers for 32bit and 64bit
>> Vista for ALL of the cards. Additionally...
>>
>> [url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/dh2go/home.php[/url]
>>
>> Under requirements, IT clearly shows it supports both 32bit AND 64bit
>> versions of Vista. Honestly, from the tone of all your replies so far,
>> you
>> have not actually researched any recommendations given to you by anyone,
>> and seem only to want try and make people believe that there is a problem
>> where none exists. I have given you an option that clearly does what you
>> want, and yet you are trying to say it does not. Are you truly seeking
>> help, or are you just trolling?
>>
>> --
>> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.
>> [url]http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel[/url]
>> Undo the munge to reply by email
>>
>>[/color]
>
> This is very expensive external box, clearly NOT low cost internal graphic
> adapter we are seeking for use in hundreds systems.
>[/color]


Try Google...type DUAL HEAD(DISPLAY) video adapter.
Some AGP's go for around 50 bucks... you might need to do some research

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:50 AM
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in
> message news:68C81ECF-D86A-4427-A4A2-A0D0E9AC33E9@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>> Following the links for the drivers shows drivers for 32bit and 64bit
>> Vista for ALL of the cards. Additionally...
>>
>> [url]http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/dh2go/home.php[/url]
>>
>> Under requirements, IT clearly shows it supports both 32bit AND 64bit
>> versions of Vista. Honestly, from the tone of all your replies so far,
>> you have not actually researched any recommendations given to you by
>> anyone, and seem only to want try and make people believe that there is a
>> problem where none exists. I have given you an option that clearly does
>> what you want, and yet you are trying to say it does not. Are you truly
>> seeking help, or are you just trolling?
>>
>> --
>> Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting.
>> [url]http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel[/url]
>> Undo the munge to reply by email
>>
>>[/color]
>
> I do not need your continue un-helpful sexist attack. So please get off
> this posting. You have contribute nothing.[/color]

Sexist? And you inferred this HOW? I said you may be trolling because you do
not seem to want to try any of the suggestions anyone has given you. Not
anywhere in my post did I mention gender. Let's DO try and get a grip on
reality shall we?

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Old 02-07-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: Which video Adapter supports dual display in Vista?

"Andrea M. Gates" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Which video adpater, single card, support dual display in Vista?[/color]

Why did you include a windows-98 newsgroup in your cross-posting?
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