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Old 01-11-2008, 01:01 AM
Bookham Measures
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Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

I recently purchased a Sony Vaio, pre-installed with Vista Business. I
could not believe it when the following things started happening:

1) Blue screens all the time with memory management and PFN list problems
2) Intermittent failure to be able to login to my profile, access denied.
3) Incredibly CPU and hard disk intensive. Lots of HD activity when I was
doing nothing.
4) Not a great deal of support for those 3rd party apps that make our lives
easier.
5) Incredible usability failures with Windows Live Mail versus Outlook
Express. (Especially when formatting emails, indenting, changing font) and
the height of the sender/subject info in the preview pane.
6) Host processes, content indexer and IE 7 always crashing
7) 90% of the time I power down an installation of an update (or several)
had to be performed. (Just what you need at 5.30 on a Friday afternoon)
8) Slightly off topic, but Office 2007, what the heck are those menus/panels
about!

So, I visited the Sony website and there are detailed instructions on
downgrading (re-installing) to XP and simple set-up of all the preinstalled
software and drivers.

You are probably aware but users of most Vista versions except the most
basic are entitled to downgrade.

My PC runs XP Pro twice as fast as Vista and is far more stable.

Vista, get rid.


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Old 01-11-2008, 03:00 AM
~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:.
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

Congratulations? So you couldn't figure out how to use Vista. Your not the
first, wont be the last. So this just shows you would rather quit than
work with it. That's fine. Plenty of us have been ale to work with it.

Have a good day and thank you for coming.

--
~Alex T~
..:MVP Windows Shell/User:.

"Bookham Measures" <bookham_measures@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OXXvyaDVIHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I recently purchased a Sony Vaio, pre-installed with Vista Business. I
> could not believe it when the following things started happening:
>
> 1) Blue screens all the time with memory management and PFN list problems
> 2) Intermittent failure to be able to login to my profile, access denied.
> 3) Incredibly CPU and hard disk intensive. Lots of HD activity when I was
> doing nothing.
> 4) Not a great deal of support for those 3rd party apps that make our
> lives easier.
> 5) Incredible usability failures with Windows Live Mail versus Outlook
> Express. (Especially when formatting emails, indenting, changing font)
> and the height of the sender/subject info in the preview pane.
> 6) Host processes, content indexer and IE 7 always crashing
> 7) 90% of the time I power down an installation of an update (or several)
> had to be performed. (Just what you need at 5.30 on a Friday afternoon)
> 8) Slightly off topic, but Office 2007, what the heck are those
> menus/panels about!
>
> So, I visited the Sony website and there are detailed instructions on
> downgrading (re-installing) to XP and simple set-up of all the
> preinstalled software and drivers.
>
> You are probably aware but users of most Vista versions except the most
> basic are entitled to downgrade.
>
> My PC runs XP Pro twice as fast as Vista and is far more stable.
>
> Vista, get rid.
>[/color]
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:30 AM
JB
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

"Bookham Measures" <bookham_measures@REMOVEyahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> I recently purchased a Sony Vaio, pre-installed with Vista Business. I
> could not believe it when the following things started happening:[/color]

[rest of rant deleted]

Oh,its a Sony, lets see now, this was the Japanese mob
that downloaded a secret file onto unsuspecting windows
XP computers to prevent copying and opened up a big
security hole which microsoft had to rush out a patch.
[color=blue]
> My PC runs XP Pro twice as fast as Vista and is far more stable.[/color]

You have a dud notebook, take it back to the dealer.
[color=blue]
>Vista, get rid.[/color]

Nope, works fine on other notebooks.


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Old 01-11-2008, 03:40 AM
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

Well, whatever works best for you. Hopefully in the future the situation
will improve for you and will be use Windows Vista again. I don't believe in
using the latest and greatest over lost productivity.
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"Bookham Measures" <bookham_measures@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OXXvyaDVIHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I recently purchased a Sony Vaio, pre-installed with Vista Business. I
>could not believe it when the following things started happening:
>
> 1) Blue screens all the time with memory management and PFN list problems
> 2) Intermittent failure to be able to login to my profile, access denied.
> 3) Incredibly CPU and hard disk intensive. Lots of HD activity when I was
> doing nothing.
> 4) Not a great deal of support for those 3rd party apps that make our
> lives easier.
> 5) Incredible usability failures with Windows Live Mail versus Outlook
> Express. (Especially when formatting emails, indenting, changing font)
> and the height of the sender/subject info in the preview pane.
> 6) Host processes, content indexer and IE 7 always crashing
> 7) 90% of the time I power down an installation of an update (or several)
> had to be performed. (Just what you need at 5.30 on a Friday afternoon)
> 8) Slightly off topic, but Office 2007, what the heck are those
> menus/panels about!
>
> So, I visited the Sony website and there are detailed instructions on
> downgrading (re-installing) to XP and simple set-up of all the
> preinstalled software and drivers.
>
> You are probably aware but users of most Vista versions except the most
> basic are entitled to downgrade.
>
> My PC runs XP Pro twice as fast as Vista and is far more stable.
>
> Vista, get rid.
>[/color]


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Old 01-11-2008, 04:01 AM
xfile
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

On the other hand, you are too stupid to know if there are any Windows
Updates available needless to say to put an unfinished SP1 on a production
system, you of course know nothing better than MS customers.

Of course, you are not the first stupid self-centered techie and wouldn't be
the last one, but certainly is the newest to this newsgroup.



"~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:." <makaveli213******.com> wrote in message
news:D05B7A1C-08FA-4F52-8E31-6843C97AFF7A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Congratulations? So you couldn't figure out how to use Vista. Your not
> the first, wont be the last. So this just shows you would rather quit
> than work with it. That's fine. Plenty of us have been ale to work with
> it.
>
> Have a good day and thank you for coming.
>
> --
> ~Alex T~
> .:MVP Windows Shell/User:.
>
> "Bookham Measures" <bookham_measures@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OXXvyaDVIHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I recently purchased a Sony Vaio, pre-installed with Vista Business. I
>> could not believe it when the following things started happening:
>>
>> 1) Blue screens all the time with memory management and PFN list problems
>> 2) Intermittent failure to be able to login to my profile, access denied.
>> 3) Incredibly CPU and hard disk intensive. Lots of HD activity when I
>> was doing nothing.
>> 4) Not a great deal of support for those 3rd party apps that make our
>> lives easier.
>> 5) Incredible usability failures with Windows Live Mail versus Outlook
>> Express. (Especially when formatting emails, indenting, changing font)
>> and the height of the sender/subject info in the preview pane.
>> 6) Host processes, content indexer and IE 7 always crashing
>> 7) 90% of the time I power down an installation of an update (or several)
>> had to be performed. (Just what you need at 5.30 on a Friday afternoon)
>> 8) Slightly off topic, but Office 2007, what the heck are those
>> menus/panels about!
>>
>> So, I visited the Sony website and there are detailed instructions on
>> downgrading (re-installing) to XP and simple set-up of all the
>> preinstalled software and drivers.
>>
>> You are probably aware but users of most Vista versions except the most
>> basic are entitled to downgrade.
>>
>> My PC runs XP Pro twice as fast as Vista and is far more stable.
>>
>> Vista, get rid.
>>[/color][/color]


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Old 01-11-2008, 06:30 AM
xfile
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

(1) I have never skipped any MS Windows upgrade for personal and business
until Vista,

(2) I have shared reasons last year for not using it but am still monitoring
the progress and have not commented anything on it in this or other
newsgroups,

(3) My reply was not about if Vista is a good or not (leave that to techie
like yourself) but with regard to Alex's attitude,

(4) I am not a fortune teller even I study trends but maybe that's your
profession,

(5) I don't know how you and your organization use IT in general, but we
don't just boot up a computer and log in to write a few emails and edit some
photos; we have multinational real-time supply chain operations including
production and order fulfilling need to be consider.

Conclusion: I am happy for you and others who are using Vista without
problems and any other OS for the matter, but that's just for your use.



"skunksmash" <skunksmash.330zb3@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:skunksmash.330zb3@no-mx.forums.net...[color=blue]
>
> mate u will regret that decision in a years time XP IS DYING A DEATH
> its still early days but most people here love this OS and have no real
> issues with it ...but by the sound of it your notebook wernt up to the
> task anyway
> i cant belive they pre installed vista buisness on a notebook im sure
> that edition is the most harware intensive (could be wrong)
> it upsets me u have bailed ship but as u say if XP is running twice as
> fast
> then the laptop was ur problem tbf i think XP actually runs slower on
> my current rig so as with most probs it comes down to your hardware
>
> you will be back
>
> vista x64 is the future !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
>
>
> --
> skunksmash[/color]


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Old 01-11-2008, 06:51 AM
John Smith
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

vista is already history for Microsoft.. they know they blundered and are
working full speed to make an OS that actually WORKS... of course they will
still sell Vista and XP until its ready
They wont say no to money... but MS knows that they did a big boo boo with
Vista...

and they are licking their wounds... many hate it .. many avoid it like the
plauge.. and with GOOD reason. its crap

Sorry vista is never faster than xp on any hardware.. the mere fact that you
are saying that shows you are newbie supreme

"skunksmash" <skunksmash.330zb3@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> mate u will regret that decision in a years time XP IS DYING A DEATH
> its still early days but most people here love this OS and have no real
> issues with it ...but by the sound of it your notebook wernt up to the
> task anyway
> i cant belive they pre installed vista buisness on a notebook im sure
> that edition is the most harware intensive (could be wrong)
> it upsets me u have bailed ship but as u say if XP is running twice as
> fast
> then the laptop was ur problem tbf i think XP actually runs slower on
> my current rig so as with most probs it comes down to your hardware
>
> you will be back
>
> vista x64 is the future !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
>
>
> --
> skunksmash[/color]


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Old 01-11-2008, 07:10 AM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

In article <skunksmash.330zb3@no-mx.forums.net>,
skunksmash <skunksmash.330zb3@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>vista x64 is the future !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
>[/color]

The future of what?

Oh, excuse me: "D phutr of like what, dude?"
[color=blue]
>
>--
>skunksmash[/color]


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Old 01-11-2008, 07:40 AM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

skunksmash wrote:[color=blue]
> mate u can sit back now in your x32 world with the majority of pc
> users
> but eventually x64 will be running rings round ur rig
> when the driver support gets better and apps are designed to run on x64
> only a FOOL would belive eventually it will not be far superior to XP
> X32 OR X64............
>
>[/color]

It obviously hasn't done anything for your ability to spell the words
"you" or "your".

Alias
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

Alex, people come here for help, not to be ridiculed. Grow Up!!!

"~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:." wrote:
[color=blue]
> Congratulations? So you couldn't figure out how to use Vista. Your not the
> first, wont be the last. So this just shows you would rather quit than
> work with it. That's fine. Plenty of us have been ale to work with it.
>
> Have a good day and thank you for coming.
>
> --
> ~Alex T~
> .:MVP Windows Shell/User:.
>
> "Bookham Measures" <bookham_measures@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OXXvyaDVIHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > I recently purchased a Sony Vaio, pre-installed with Vista Business. I
> > could not believe it when the following things started happening:
> >
> > 1) Blue screens all the time with memory management and PFN list problems
> > 2) Intermittent failure to be able to login to my profile, access denied.
> > 3) Incredibly CPU and hard disk intensive. Lots of HD activity when I was
> > doing nothing.
> > 4) Not a great deal of support for those 3rd party apps that make our
> > lives easier.
> > 5) Incredible usability failures with Windows Live Mail versus Outlook
> > Express. (Especially when formatting emails, indenting, changing font)
> > and the height of the sender/subject info in the preview pane.
> > 6) Host processes, content indexer and IE 7 always crashing
> > 7) 90% of the time I power down an installation of an update (or several)
> > had to be performed. (Just what you need at 5.30 on a Friday afternoon)
> > 8) Slightly off topic, but Office 2007, what the heck are those
> > menus/panels about!
> >
> > So, I visited the Sony website and there are detailed instructions on
> > downgrading (re-installing) to XP and simple set-up of all the
> > preinstalled software and drivers.
> >
> > You are probably aware but users of most Vista versions except the most
> > basic are entitled to downgrade.
> >
> > My PC runs XP Pro twice as fast as Vista and is far more stable.
> >
> > Vista, get rid.
> >[/color][/color]
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

skunksmash <skunksmash.3315k1@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in
news:skunksmash.3315k1@no-mx.forums.net:
[color=blue]
>
> mate u can sit back now in your x32 world with the majority of pc
> users
> but eventually x64 will be running rings round ur rig
> when the driver support gets better and apps are designed to run on x64
> only a FOOL would belive eventually it will not be far superior to XP
> X32 OR X64............[/color]

Only a fool would believe that 64 bit programs, as the *norm*, will be here
before the next version of Windows is released.......

(at which point it wil be the same driver fiasco all over again.)

Or, that 64-bit processing will make a difference over 32 bit processing
for the *average* PC user.

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:00 PM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:48:10 -0500, "~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:."
<makaveli213******.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Congratulations? So you couldn't figure out how to use Vista. Your not the
>first, wont be the last. So this just shows you would rather quit than
>work with it. That's fine. Plenty of us have been ale to work with it.
>
>Have a good day and thank you for coming.[/color]

Couldn't figureit out or is a lot quicker than you to figure that
Vista is a POS.
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Old 01-12-2008, 05:50 AM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.


I reluctantly upgraded to windows XP last year. I was running Windows
2000 Professional for over 5 years and loved it but after my 2000
installation disk was stolen and things started to break down I went
ahead and purchased XP. I so far am enjoying all the features of XP. I
have tried Vista on retail computers and found that it is harder to
understand and use. I am probably going to use XP Pro for a long time as
I have heard many horror stories associated wit Vista.


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Old 01-12-2008, 03:10 PM
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Re: Downgraded to XP Pro - Best thing I ever did.

"Brownie" <Brownie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Alex, people come here for help, not to be ridiculed. Grow Up!!![/color]

Exactly, a HELP forum. The OP did not ask for help, he came in spouting
trash. If XP worked for him outstanding. More power to him. The OP is no
better than any of the smacktards that regularly flame Vista, and deserves
no better. IF he had of come in, asked for help in a civil manner as MOST
do, I am sure Alex, myself, and others would have gone out of our way as is
normal to help.

Bottom line: You act like an ass, you get treated like one.

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