On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:06:38 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
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> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:0J6dndpPi_WY_fXanZ2dnUVZ8qninZ2d@giganews.com...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:18:42 -0500, forty-nine wrote:
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Whatever "comes" on the disk I BOUGHT is part of the OS. Notice I paid
>>> $35 for it with a book. That puts me in the 7% bracket of linux users
>>> that actually part with their money for software : D They should mail
>>> me an award or certificate or something ![/color]
>>
>> 35 bucks? Man you got a long way to catch up to me. =)
>>
>> That said, on the prior update statement, why is it by the way that
>> people like you get their panties all tied up into a bunch when an OS
>> like Ubuntu has updates?
>>
>> Why the hell would it NOT have updates? It changes over time. It is
>> being maintained. Things are added / changed....why is this bad thing?
>>
>> No actual linux user would ever claim that Linux doesn't have updates.
>> So why is it that windows users expect it not to?
>>
>> --
>> Stephan
>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>
>> 君の事思い出す日なんてないのは 君の事忘れたときがないから[/color]
>
>
> Stop looking at my panties !
> And they aren't in a wad...it was simply an observation. People like me
> ?
> You know me ? A neighbor of mine ?
> Stick to yakking about software.
> From the "look" of ubuntu...200 + MB of updates seems a bit larger than
> the whole OS should be.[/color]

It's something that comes up very frequently in this OS about people who
try out Ubuntu. "GASP!!!! It had UPDATES!! OH NO!! The sky is falling!"
type responses ya know =)

That said, there probably was at least one open office update in
there.That's easy 50-80 megs for a complete OO update. OO is rather
large....

If there was a kernel update, easily another 20-30 megs. Now that is
definitely an OS Update!

Restricted driver modules update, if there was one, also isn't exactly
small.

The one thing about Ubuntu and linux is that they evolve very rapidly. I
mean, we are only about 4 months away from the next Ubuntu
release....that'll be a much larger update than 200 megs! :)

I don't really see that as a bad thing.

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
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> The one thing about Ubuntu and linux is that they evolve very rapidly. I
> mean, we are only about 4 months away from the next Ubuntu
> release....that'll be a much larger update than 200 megs! :)
>
> I don't really see that as a bad thing.[/color]

I do.
Which new windows manager will it use this time?
Everything else should be up to date anyway.

dennis@home wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
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>
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>> The one thing about Ubuntu and linux is that they evolve very rapidly. I
>> mean, we are only about 4 months away from the next Ubuntu
>> release....that'll be a much larger update than 200 megs! :)
>>
>> I don't really see that as a bad thing.[/color]
>
> I do.
> Which new windows manager will it use this time?
> Everything else should be up to date anyway.[/color]

Assuming that anything is static in the OS world is naive, Dennis.
Ubuntu is continually being improved and that is a good thing.

Alias

In article <nb-dnS8cdr6AS_ranZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
[email]nospam@spammer.com[/email] says...[color=blue]
> No problem here to do it in less than an hour.
>
> Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 HyperX and all hard drives of course
> SATAII.
>
> No problems installing Ubuntu in under an hour, downloading and
> installing updates included. 6mbit connection does help....[/color]

I clearly said it was a P3 and I have an 8mbps connection, and downloads
took hours.

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In article <4767ec22@newsgate.x-privat.org>, [email]fuv@groufa.com[/email] says...[color=blue]
> Mr dumbell number 2, the Microsoft update is not on by default, you can
> chose to turn it on when you install something like office, since it asks
> you,
> but you can turn it off too from the microsoft update site, or in vista you
> have that option right on the OS
>
> I dont like microsoft update and always turn it off.. I use windows
> update...
>
> and even then MS software is like 2% of all the programs I have on my
> computer..
>
> MS update doesnt update those, does it?
>
> gesh you vista nerdy boys are thick[/color]

And nothing in your broken Usenet client, top posting, BS changes one
thing I said and doesn't invalidate anything I said.

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Leythos wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <nb-dnS8cdr6AS_ranZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> [email]nospam@spammer.com[/email] says...[color=green]
>> No problem here to do it in less than an hour.
>>
>> Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 HyperX and all hard drives of course
>> SATAII.
>>
>> No problems installing Ubuntu in under an hour, downloading and
>> installing updates included. 6mbit connection does help....[/color]
>
> I clearly said it was a P3 and I have an 8mbps connection, and downloads
> took hours.
>[/color]

That's just a busy server. Had you stopped the download and waited 15
minutes, you would have probably gotten a faster download. I just
downloaded 38 MB in less than a minute with a 12 Mbit connection.

Alias

Leythos wrote:
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> In article <uDV0Q8QQIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, kevpan158
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...[color=green]
>> For A Mental Retard Like Yourself, Just FYI, You Would Be Perfect For
>> Ubuntu. Just FYI.[/color]
>
> Installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a P3/933, took about 1.5 hours, then there were
> 143 updates, and that's just to the back installed package, no extra's
> added to it yet.
>[/color]
You're distorting the perceptions again Leythos. You know **** well that the
initial install includes MANY packages of additional software beyond the
basic o/s. In fact, it includes enough stuff to make it a replacement for
XP plus numerous high cost additions.

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HeyBub wrote:
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> Leythos wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <uDV0Q8QQIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, kevpan158
>> @nospam.hotmail.com says...[color=darkred]
>>> For A Mental Retard Like Yourself, Just FYI, You Would Be Perfect For
>>> Ubuntu. Just FYI.[/color]
>>
>> Installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a P3/933, took about 1.5 hours, then there
>> were 143 updates, and that's just to the back installed package, no
>> extra's added to it yet.
>>
>> Seems there are new updates weekly too...[/color]
>
> That's just pitiful.[/color]

Sure is. They should only come out once a month on a "patch Tuesday".

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Edward W. Thompson wrote:
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>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.21d0e5a6e0b82df198990c@adfree.Usenet.com...[color=green]
>> In article <uDV0Q8QQIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, kevpan158
>> @nospam.hotmail.com says...[color=darkred]
>>> For A Mental Retard Like Yourself, Just FYI, You Would Be Perfect For
>>> Ubuntu. Just FYI.[/color]
>>
>> Installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a P3/933, took about 1.5 hours, then there were
>> 143 updates, and that's just to the back installed package, no extra's
>> added to it yet.
>>
>> Seems there are new updates weekly too...
>>
>> Strange, just like Windows XP, but XP supports more hardware.
>>[/color]
> snip
>
> 90 minutes to install Ubuntu 7.10? You must be joking. (or simply lying).[/color]

He's a known lier, but in this case, he's probably right. He really lacks
computer skills and hence it took him that long.

Cheers.


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Leythos wrote:
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> In article <ubNHLzTQIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, thomeduk1
> @btopenworld.com says...[color=green]
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.21d0e5a6e0b82df198990c@adfree.Usenet.com...[color=darkred]
>> > In article <uDV0Q8QQIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, kevpan158
>> > @nospam.hotmail.com says...
>> >> For A Mental Retard Like Yourself, Just FYI, You Would Be Perfect For
>> >> Ubuntu. Just FYI.
>> >
>> > Installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a P3/933, took about 1.5 hours, then there
>> > were 143 updates, and that's just to the back installed package, no
>> > extra's added to it yet.
>> >
>> > Seems there are new updates weekly too...
>> >
>> > Strange, just like Windows XP, but XP supports more hardware.
>> >[/color]
>> snip
>>
>> 90 minutes to install Ubuntu 7.10? You must be joking. (or simply
>> lying). It took me 10 to 15 minutes tops plus about another 10 minutes
>> for the
>> updates to download and install. It was then fully useable including
>> Open Office, recognizes my scanner and printer (HP Businessjet) and
>> connected to
>> the internet and my home network, all straight out of the box. I have
>> my reservations about Ubuntu (LINUX) but in many ways it is light years
>> ahead of WINXP.[/color]
>
> No lie, I've done this many times, and the ISO burned to CD, then click
> the Install Icon on the desktop, then wait for it to partition the drive
> (full drive), then wait for it to install the base apps, then wait for
> it to check for updates, then wait forever for it to download the update
> packages, then install.....
>
> Don't even start to suggest that it is better with hardware, I searched
> BestBuy, Circuit City, and several other sites for a printer that was
> listed in the compatible group that was under $150, since none of the
> persons Cannon or Lexmark printers was compatible.
>
> As for light years ahead - yea, sure, every time you want to install
> something it asks you for your password, the same one you logged into
> the PC with, and then it installs it - how is that different than vista
> and how is that security? It should be asking you for the root password
> so that you can't install anything without it.
>[/color]
Proof positive that you're really incompetent.

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forty-nine wrote:
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> "vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message
> news:476759e6@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=green]
>> those updates in linux include all the installed applications you
>> dumbell, not only the OS...
>>
>> when you update XP you are updating ONLY the OS, and not all the
>> applications installed
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Dumbbell ?
>
> According to you, I am running the most horrible OS ever made.
>
> I must be a genius !
>[/color]
Only in your own mind. The rest of the world knows that you're an
incompetent blowhart.
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> Until it comes to ubuntu...then dumb again : (
>[/color]
Yep. And dumb before that too, but your expedition into the Linux world, is
proof positive.
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> Oh, you misspelled dumbbell[/color]

That's ok. Seems like you somehow figured out that he was talking about you.

Cheers.


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"DX" <DX@> wrote in message news:#b9EmMLQIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green]
>> WMP 11 is total crap... a usless peice of junk...[/color]
>
> Translates to vista user 43 is a useless piece of $hit, he should be
> banned from talking about pc's never mind using them.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> The rest is just his usual crap.[/color]

Indeed. As for the Linux players, I always preferred XMMS anyway, since I
loathe KDE. As for a replacement for WMP I like Quintessential Player.
Stable as hell, and uses less resources than WMP and Winamp.

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"Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fkb238$5ts$2@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
>> news:K4GdnRQ63IXiRvXanZ2dnUVZ8qXinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> The one thing about Ubuntu and linux is that they evolve very rapidly. I
>>> mean, we are only about 4 months away from the next Ubuntu
>>> release....that'll be a much larger update than 200 megs! :)
>>>
>>> I don't really see that as a bad thing.[/color]
>>
>> I do.
>> Which new windows manager will it use this time?
>> Everything else should be up to date anyway.[/color]
>
> Assuming that anything is static in the OS world is naive, Dennis. Ubuntu
> is continually being improved and that is a good thing.[/color]

But its not is it.
Can you list the improvements from 7.04 to 7.10 to show that improvements
are being made?

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:05:27 +0000, dennis@home wrote:
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> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:K4GdnRQ63IXiRvXanZ2dnUVZ8qXinZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>[color=green]
>> The one thing about Ubuntu and linux is that they evolve very rapidly.
>> I mean, we are only about 4 months away from the next Ubuntu
>> release....that'll be a much larger update than 200 megs! :)
>>
>> I don't really see that as a bad thing.[/color]
>
> I do.[/color]

And what is bad about it? Why would you prefer to use a stagnant OS that
isn't being developed and improved?
[color=blue]
> Which new windows manager will it use this time? Everything else should
> be up to date anyway.[/color]

The same exact window manager it has been using since day frigging one:
Gnome.

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:06:15 -0500, Leythos wrote:
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> In article <nb-dnS8cdr6AS_ranZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> [email]nospam@spammer.com[/email] says...[color=green]
>> No problem here to do it in less than an hour.
>>
>> Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 HyperX and all hard drives of course
>> SATAII.
>>
>> No problems installing Ubuntu in under an hour, downloading and
>> installing updates included. 6mbit connection does help....[/color]
>
> I clearly said it was a P3 and I have an 8mbps connection, and downloads
> took hours.[/color]

First off, I was answering dennis' question. I'm aware you only had a P3.
=)

Secondly, download speed has VERY little do to with the OS now doesn't
it? I mean, do you go blame vista if a website has a slow download speed?
If you blame Ubuntu in such a case, you need to blame Vista too..else
you're being a hypocrite.

Or, you might just realize that your download speed has exceedingly
little to do with the OS you're using and pretty much everything to do
with your internet connection, server you are connecting to and routers
that are in between.

So if you are experiencing slow downloads via your 8mpbs connection, you
could have simply changed the server you're downloading updates from to a
less busy one. Yes, it's possible and you don't even need a command line
to do it!

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2003 Yamaha R6

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