I've been tasked to find the truth - or at least informed opinion - about
the current pace of Vista adoption. I saw the initial posting in "The truth
about Vista adoption in 2007" thread and found that article very
interesting. Can anyone point me to similar articles?

Thanks,

Tom

I'll tell the truth IMO about Vista. It is a HUGE change from previous
Windows just like WFW was to DOS and 95 to WFW. Then 98 came along and
although people complained it wasn't much different. Then 98SE and no much
change here either. Millennium came out and most people complained about no
Dos. Finally XP arrives and it was a WOW operating System, but not without
it's faults as well. Now Vista is here, for many there is no WOW and because
it is so different it is natural for people to complain.

If you read over these groups I think you will see not all, but many are
just people looking for ways to make their software or hardware work, why?
because many venders did not get their drivers into MS in time to ship
Vista. When something don't work for someone, their first reaction is, I
HATE THIS and now Vista is to blame. Watch these groups and MARK my word.
Now Vista SP1 is about to ship, people think it is a CURE ALL and for some
it might be, but for many it won't or at least they are expecting something
from the skies.

You will see these same people who are bashing Vista right now will be the
same ones once again complaing about SP1. No matter what MS does it won't be
enough, it's the nature of the beast. Now I know you ask for a link, but if
you Google a little I think you will find lot's of articles to read. I'm
just stating my opinion just like the articles you will find does. That's
all they are, opinions.
BTW, here is a link for you to read over about SP1, it's huge, but worth the
read and should explain a lot about Vista and why it is the way it is.
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e71f0083-1013-4f9c-a3f9-c56e7120a5e9&displaylang=en[/url]

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"Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
news:eZqk1%23aPIHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I've been tasked to find the truth - or at least informed opinion - about
> the current pace of Vista adoption. I saw the initial posting in "The
> truth about Vista adoption in 2007" thread and found that article very
> interesting. Can anyone point me to similar articles?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>[/color]

Microsoft is inflating the numbers with some tricks.. so whatever you see,
dont believe it.

for example they count vista installations, but they don't count final vista
use, in other words many format vista and install xp or dual boot.

the numbers that do this are staggaring.. I would not be amazed to find out
that only 30% of the machines that came with vista,
remain vista only machines...

even that number is too much for comfort.. I think vista should be banned as
a hazourdous and stupid crap product



"Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
news:eZqk1%23aPIHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I've been tasked to find the truth - or at least informed opinion - about
> the current pace of Vista adoption. I saw the initial posting in "The
> truth about Vista adoption in 2007" thread and found that article very
> interesting. Can anyone point me to similar articles?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>[/color]

vista user 43 wrote:
[color=blue]
> Microsoft is inflating the numbers with some tricks.. so whatever you see,
> dont believe it.[/color]

Of course they aren't. You have no idea what you are talking about.[color=blue]
>
> for example they count vista installations, but they don't count final vista
> use, in other words many format vista and install xp or dual boot.
>
> the numbers that do this are staggaring.. I would not be amazed to find out
> that only 30% of the machines that came with vista,
> remain vista only machines...[/color]

You're dreaming again![color=blue]
>
> even that number is too much for comfort.. I think vista should be banned as
> a hazourdous and stupid crap product[/color]

Ah, now you just another stupid idiot!
Frank[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
> news:eZqk1%23aPIHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>>I've been tasked to find the truth - or at least informed opinion - about
>>the current pace of Vista adoption. I saw the initial posting in "The
>>truth about Vista adoption in 2007" thread and found that article very
>>interesting. Can anyone point me to similar articles?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Tom
>>[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

SG,

Thanks for your personal opinion and I agree with much of what you said, but
my boss would like me to reference some published data.

Tom

Vista User 43,

Thanks for your opinion. I agree that MS is looking at licenses sold and
not licenses in use. My company does the same thing - we purchase an OS
license with the hardware and install what we want, which is currently XP.
Any idea where I can find this type of data in print and not just of
anecdotal?

Tom

"Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
news:e5KVJVcPIHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Vista User 43,
>
> Thanks for your opinion. I agree that MS is looking at licenses sold and not licenses in
> use. My company does the same thing - we purchase an OS license with the hardware and
> install what we want, which is currently XP. Any idea where I can find this type of data in
> print and not just of anecdotal?[/color]

I'm sure Microsoft could tell us how many Vista keys have
been activated. But, I'm also sure they won't.

A month or so ago, Microsoft said something about
80 million copies being sold but nothing about actual
numbers in use. There was also a recent report from
some online research group that said Vista was at about
9% of OS use. I don't remember the link. If that's true
and here we are a year later, I don't find that impressive
at all. I would have thought about at least 20% by now.

Sorry, can't be of more help.


-Michael

You may or may not seen these, but here goes.
BTW, didn't check the dates or these articles.
[url]http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2048070,00.asp[/url]

[url]http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/03/vista_adoption_1.cfm[/url]

[url]http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2218/061127vista/[/url]

[url]http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/yet_another_view_on_vista_adoption.html[/url]

[url]http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/windows-vista-adoption-rate-data-from-plentyoffish/[/url]

If you want more, type in Google the words...
Vista adoption
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"Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
news:uJe2yScPIHA.5264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> SG,
>
> Thanks for your personal opinion and I agree with much of what you said,
> but my boss would like me to reference some published data.
>
> Tom
>
>[/color]

Frank if I upgrade Frank Version 1.0 and install a beta SP1 on top, will I
get
a more mentally unstable Frank or will his attitude improve even a little?

:-)


"Frank" <fb@jr.kmo> wrote in message
news:%235fIYMcPIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> vista user 43 wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Microsoft is inflating the numbers with some tricks.. so whatever you
>> see, dont believe it.[/color]
>
> Of course they aren't. You have no idea what you are talking about.[color=green]
>>
>> for example they count vista installations, but they don't count final
>> vista use, in other words many format vista and install xp or dual boot.
>>
>> the numbers that do this are staggaring.. I would not be amazed to find
>> out that only 30% of the machines that came with vista,
>> remain vista only machines...[/color]
>
> You're dreaming again![color=green]
>>
>> even that number is too much for comfort.. I think vista should be banned
>> as a hazourdous and stupid crap product[/color]
>
> Ah, now you just another stupid idiot!
> Frank[color=green]
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
>> news:eZqk1%23aPIHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I've been tasked to find the truth - or at least informed opinion - about
>>>the current pace of Vista adoption. I saw the initial posting in "The
>>>truth about Vista adoption in 2007" thread and found that article very
>>>interesting. Can anyone point me to similar articles?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

you dont understand... vista may be activated.. then formated and XP
installed on top of that..

so vista activations numbers is not a good way to count whats going on...

the best way I have seen it to see website statistics and see how many vista
pc hits you have...

and what I hear from all around.. that companies cant keep up with the
demand of vista ripping off and xp installing!

LOL




"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OTDCpbcPIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
> news:e5KVJVcPIHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Vista User 43,
>>
>> Thanks for your opinion. I agree that MS is looking at licenses sold and
>> not licenses in use. My company does the same thing - we purchase an OS
>> license with the hardware and install what we want, which is currently
>> XP. Any idea where I can find this type of data in print and not just of
>> anecdotal?[/color]
>
> I'm sure Microsoft could tell us how many Vista keys have
> been activated. But, I'm also sure they won't.
>
> A month or so ago, Microsoft said something about
> 80 million copies being sold but nothing about actual
> numbers in use. There was also a recent report from
> some online research group that said Vista was at about
> 9% of OS use. I don't remember the link. If that's true
> and here we are a year later, I don't find that impressive
> at all. I would have thought about at least 20% by now.
>
> Sorry, can't be of more help.
>
>
> -Michael[/color]

vista user 43 wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank if I upgrade Frank Version 1.0 and install a beta SP1 on top, will I
> get
> a more mentally unstable Frank or will his attitude improve even a little?
>
> :-)
>[/color]

Confused capin' crunch? I'm the one running 15 seats of Vista Ultimate
without any problems cause they're all sorted...you're the one who can't
get even one little install to run properly.
Think (if possible) about it...I know it must confuse a moron like you
but those numbers speak volumes about your ineptitude and computer
incompetence...and your overall intelligence and mental state.
How's that Vista hate campaign coming along?
Frank

I agree with some of the things you blather on about,
but your driblets of drivel gets quite boring.


-Michael

"vista user 43" <fuv@groufa.com> wrote in message news:4761d4bd@newsgate.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> you dont understand... vista may be activated.. then formated and XP
> installed on top of that..
>
> so vista activations numbers is not a good way to count whats going on...
>
> the best way I have seen it to see website statistics and see how many vista
> pc hits you have...
>
> and what I hear from all around.. that companies cant keep up with the
> demand of vista ripping off and xp installing!
>
> LOL
>
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OTDCpbcPIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
>> news:e5KVJVcPIHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Vista User 43,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your opinion. I agree that MS is looking at licenses sold and
>>> not licenses in use. My company does the same thing - we purchase an OS
>>> license with the hardware and install what we want, which is currently
>>> XP. Any idea where I can find this type of data in print and not just of
>>> anecdotal?[/color]
>>
>> I'm sure Microsoft could tell us how many Vista keys have
>> been activated. But, I'm also sure they won't.
>>
>> A month or so ago, Microsoft said something about
>> 80 million copies being sold but nothing about actual
>> numbers in use. There was also a recent report from
>> some online research group that said Vista was at about
>> 9% of OS use. I don't remember the link. If that's true
>> and here we are a year later, I don't find that impressive
>> at all. I would have thought about at least 20% by now.
>>
>> Sorry, can't be of more help.
>>
>>
>> -Michael[/color]
>
>[/color]

Hi,

My two cents,

You have at least two options:

(1) search the net then you have to use your wisdom to determine the
objectivity and creditability of the information source,

(2) contact research firms such as Forrester, Gartner, etc. for such
fee-based reports if they have one (may not be available yet as this is not
something can be done overnight).

Please noted that adoption rate is very difficult to accurately
quantify/estimate and if you need such information, you might also want to
determine which group(s) of users (e.g. home, small vs. enterprise bus,
and/or other criterions) would be your primary interests, and it would save
a lot of efforts when you search the net and/or contact research firms.

Hope this helps and good luck.



"Tom K." <thomas.DOT.kerA@Thighmark.com> wrote in message
news:eZqk1%23aPIHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I've been tasked to find the truth - or at least informed opinion - about
> the current pace of Vista adoption. I saw the initial posting in "The
> truth about Vista adoption in 2007" thread and found that article very
> interesting. Can anyone point me to similar articles?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>[/color]

Thanks, Michael. Obviously you do understand. Many companies, like the one
I work for, don't even fire up the OEM installation of Windows to allow it
to activate and our OEM would never take steps we don't request and pay for
(like pre-activating).

Tom

Thanks for the links, SG. I had already seen these by Googling. They are
too old to be of use. Looks like I'm headed for the pay-for-opinion crowd
(Forrester, Gartner, etc.)

Tom